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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
LS2 being "overplayed"....can you please tell me how many cars/trucks it's in.....I can count on one hand......less actually.
Funny...I can count in the last three years on "two" hands the cars that have or will have that motor. 7 fingers, 2 hands. Clearly your math is incorrect.

GTO
SSR
G8 GT (to what I heard anywho)
Trailblazer SS
Corvette
Up & Coming Camaro
Cailliac CTS-V

Yep, GM has to put one in every segment. Just like Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep has to put a Hemi in everything.

If you want I can start getting into the european car segment where there is just as many cars I do believe. either way your thinking about this is incorrect.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Funny...I can count in the last three years on "two" hands the cars that have or will have that motor. 7 fingers, 2 hands. Clearly your math is incorrect.

GTO
SSR
G8 GT
Trailblazer SS
Corvette
Up & Coming Camaro
Cailliac CTS-V

Yep, GM has to put one in every segment. Just like Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep has to put a Hemi in everything.

If you want I can start getting into the european car segment where there is just as many cars I do believe. either way your thinking about this is incorrect.



Sorry, I like embarrasing you.
wait wait, you're embarassing me....that's a good one, I guess all the OTHER information I corrected you on is still correct in that little mind of yours isn't it

Oh yea, nothing like speculating on cars that aren't even here yet.....rumors as I'd like to call them because evry other day there's a new motor in the "up and coming" camaro...two weeks ago it WAS the LS2, now it's the LS3, who know's...next week it'll be the LS7 or by the time it comes out, LS48465476.

But remember, you embarassed me because you're right when you say the GTO has the same build quality as a cobalt , they were discontinued due to poor sales, there was IN FACT only one design from 1964-1974 , oh yea and can't forget it is alos fact that it in no way shape or form competes with other vehicle in it's price range at the time

I pray you never reproduce
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
I pray you never reproduce
Too late on that one. God bless your sole a man finds you attractive.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Too late on that one. God bless your sole a man finds you attractive.



btw, have this "proof" it was a three year car? I can't seem to find anything that says that.

btw, if you use wiki as a reference you will be shot. That website is a pot of misinformation.

wow, thought that was pretty much common knowledge......


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO

In case you're too lazy:

On February 21, 2006, General Motors reportedly told dealers that it would halt imports of the GTO in September, making 2006 the last model year for the current GTO generation. This should have come as no surprise since this generation GTO was only intended to be produced for those 3 years from the beginning of the program.

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Too late on that one. God bless your sole a man finds you attractive.
Gee you love editing don't you........guess you found the "Correct" information you were looking for

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
you're right when you say the GTO has the same build quality as a cobalt
Thanks.

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oh yea and can't forget it is alos fact that it in no way shape or form competes with other vehicle in it's price range at the time
If you say the:

Mustang Cobra
Charger SRT-8
300C SRT-8

That's a different league, different price.


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they were discontinued due to poor sales, there was IN FACT only one design from 1964-1974
One design? Where did you get that from? Your making no sense at all.

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wow, thought that was pretty much common knowledge......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO
Please your making me laugh with wiki quotes. Like I said pot of misinformation, find me a real link. then I might not think your a stupid as I thought and MIGHT give you props.

I don't follow cars so obviously....

Anything I've found on wiki is 60% false or has edits since it was placed in there.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Thanks.



If you say the:

Mustang Cobra
Charger SRT-8
300C SRT-8

That's a different league, different price.




One design? Where did you get that from? Your making no sense at all.
You can't really be that stupid.......the symbol is showing sarcasm...please say you aren't serious
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
You can't really be that stupid.......the symbol is showing sarcasm...please say you aren't serious
Laughing doesn't show sarcasim, it shows stupidity. Thats why I wanted to be kind.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Thanks.



If you say the:

Mustang Cobra
Charger SRT-8
300C SRT-8

That's a different league, different price.




One design? Where did you get that from? Your making no sense at all.



Please your making me laugh with wiki quotes. Like I said pot of misinformation, find me a real link. then I might not think your a stupid as I thought and MIGHT give you props.

I don't follow cars so obviously....

Anything I've found on wiki is 60% false or has edits since it was placed in there.
The why do you keep posting thinking you really know what you're talking about when all you're really doing is posting things you THINK you know and of course I knew you'd post the same Wiki bullsh*t...."Oh Noez Like 4 Realz, Wiki is Like the Uber Falsest"

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Laughing doesn't show sarcasim, it shows stupidity. Thats why I wanted to be kind.
Now you get it........I was directly quoting things you said with a smiley at the end.....you make things so easy for me champ

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt443
The why do you keep posting thinking you really know what you're talking about when all you're really doing is posting things you THINK you know and of course I knew you'd post the same Wiki bullsh*t...."Oh Noez Like 4 Realz, Wiki is Like the Uber Falsest"



Now you get it........I was directly quoting things you said with a smiley at the end.....you make things so easy for me champ
Honestly, I don't care if I am right or wrong but you people don't seem to understand how much it bothers you. this is the internet. if you can't take jokes, sarcasim or misinformation then why get butt hurt about it? I knew of all people a woman would be the most offended but then again I am not suprised a 19 or 20 year old (whatever age you think you are these days) honestly would reply.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Honestly, I don't care if I am right or wrong but you people don't seem to understand how much it bothers you. this is the internet. if you can't take jokes, sarcasim or misinformation then why get butt hurt about it? I knew of all people a woman would be the most offended but then again I am not suprised a 19 or 20 year old (whatever age you think you are these days) honestly would reply.
lol if you truly think I'm butt hurt that you're IQ is up to par with that of a 5 year olds, you truly are mistaken. I'm upset that some e-tard on here is going to take what you say for truth, and thus one e-tard becomes many

Calling out my age is also pointless, I've achieved more than most 50 year olds, so try again if you're trying to throw a low ball. And pointing out the fact that I'm a woman, yea, most "men" (I put that in quotations because it's a matter of opinion) do that as well when they have nothing else to say ...once again, good try champ

/ conversation, my IQ is dropping by typing back and forth to you
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Doesnt the new tb ss have the ls2? Man I would love to have that truck... Specially in awd
Yep it does but, it only has 391hp because of a different intake mani.

I just traded my Cobalt SS in for a 2wd version.Its nice but it doesn't
have the top end pull like my Cobalt.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Yep it does but, it only has 391hp because of a different intake mani.

I just traded my Cobalt SS in for a 2wd version.Its nice but it doesn't
have the top end pull like my Cobalt.
Serious? Ls motors are real good at the top end.....
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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^^^weight
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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^^^weight
Bingo! and hes thirsty.....thats why I nick named him Frank the Tank.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Ya I know the weight but the cobalt I thought had horrible top end. I had the 2.0 ss/sc with every damn bolt on ever and it still would not pull hard up top
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Well mine did good up to 120 then it slowed down. I had all the bolt ons and 2.8 with a tune.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Well mine did good up to 120 then it slowed down. I had all the bolt ons and 2.8 with a tune.
4th gear is a bitch.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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4th gear is a bitch.
Ya tell me about it. If fourth pulled like third I would have had an srt8 kill in the books
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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reminds me of the Civic Si when your in 6th gear at 140+ and you can't go any faster in that gear, in fact you will go slower because of drag and lack of power.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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Ya I had a 2.6 on my car..... Had the GTO up to 150 this weekend and it felt good. I have more power then stock though and it pulled real hard.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
Please your making me laugh with wiki quotes. Like I said pot of misinformation, find me a real link. then I might not think your a stupid as I thought and MIGHT give you props.

I don't follow cars so obviously....

Anything I've found on wiki is 60% false or has edits since it was placed in there.
It was discontinued because GM Holden in Australia, which made the GTO for GM North America, was in the process of discontinuing their current V-body vehicles for their new VE chassis. The original contract between GMNA and GMH was for 3 years of GTO production, after which time GMNA would start building Holden VE-based vehicles here in North America.

Those vehicles were behind when that plan was shelved last March 2006. It has subsequently been reborn (the new Camaro is part of that plan, but the vehicles we are getting are no longer exact copies of the VE chassis). Holden discontinued the Monaro at the end of 2005 since its LS1 motor no longer met Australia's emissions standards for 2006. Holden continued to build LS2-based vehicles for Holden Special Vehicles and Pontiac.

The GTO was NOT discontinued because of slow sales; it was discontinued because its three-year contract was up. Holden and GMNA actually were looking into continuing GTO production for 2007 and 2008, but the GTO did not meet the new 2007 smart airbag standards, and it would have been a significant cost (plus many crash tests) to re-engineer the vehicle to do so. In light of the end of the V-chassis and the expense, they elected to let the 3 year contract run out.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
It was discontinued because GM Holden in Australia, which made the GTO for GM North America, was in the process of discontinuing their current V-body vehicles for their new VE chassis. The original contract between GMNA and GMH was for 3 years of GTO production, after which time GMNA would start building Holden VE-based vehicles here in North America.

Those vehicles were behind when that plan was shelved last March 2006. It has subsequently been reborn (the new Camaro is part of that plan, but the vehicles we are getting are no longer exact copies of the VE chassis). Holden discontinued the Monaro at the end of 2005 since its LS1 motor no longer met Australia's emissions standards for 2006. Holden continued to build LS2-based vehicles for Holden Special Vehicles and Pontiac.

The GTO was NOT discontinued because of slow sales; it was discontinued because its three-year contract was up. Holden and GMNA actually were looking into continuing GTO production for 2007 and 2008, but the GTO did not meet the new 2007 smart airbag standards, and it would have been a significant cost (plus many crash tests) to re-engineer the vehicle to do so. In light of the end of the V-chassis and the expense, they elected to let the 3 year contract run out.

Thanks for a much clearer definition of what's going on.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
It was discontinued because GM Holden in Australia, which made the GTO for GM North America, was in the process of discontinuing their current V-body vehicles for their new VE chassis. The original contract between GMNA and GMH was for 3 years of GTO production, after which time GMNA would start building Holden VE-based vehicles here in North America.

Those vehicles were behind when that plan was shelved last March 2006. It has subsequently been reborn (the new Camaro is part of that plan, but the vehicles we are getting are no longer exact copies of the VE chassis). Holden discontinued the Monaro at the end of 2005 since its LS1 motor no longer met Australia's emissions standards for 2006. Holden continued to build LS2-based vehicles for Holden Special Vehicles and Pontiac.

The GTO was NOT discontinued because of slow sales; it was discontinued because its three-year contract was up. Holden and GMNA actually were looking into continuing GTO production for 2007 and 2008, but the GTO did not meet the new 2007 smart airbag standards, and it would have been a significant cost (plus many crash tests) to re-engineer the vehicle to do so. In light of the end of the V-chassis and the expense, they elected to let the 3 year contract run out.
This is true... however, it DID have slow sales. And i'll bet that if the contract hadn't been up, it would have been discontinued anyways, because of those slow sales. They sat on lots forever.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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This is true... however, it DID have slow sales. And i'll bet that if the contract hadn't been up, it would have been discontinued anyways, because of those slow sales. They sat on lots forever.
They still have three of them on my side of town at one dealership. 2 auto 6.0's and 1 stick.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Yeah but it's awsome that you don't see one everywhere you go you know? I like that...almost like an exotic. I only see them every day though because there's like 3 in my town but other than that, I NEVER see them on the road.

I plan on being a future ls1 gto owner
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