Why, because i think some jack ass with a whopping 170whp doesn't need a shift lift for his 15-16 second runs?

 

exactly, because u think your better than everyone else. and why am i a jack ass? becuase i dont look down on people less fortunate than i am?

and BTW, i probably make less than 170 WHP

 

So, because i'm right about a car that doesn't need a shift light, i think i'm better than everyone else??? OKie doke, that some twisted logic there.

Ever think that maybe you're the one that gives cobalt owners a bad name. What does someone with less than 170whp need a shift light for. . . . to compete with the n/a geo metro at the track?

With all the mods in your car, you could've spent money on actually making it fast with some type of FI or nitrous. Then a shift light would be acceptable. . . .assuming you have a shift light.

 

quoting u directly again. i have bolt ons. that makes me a dumb owner?

and yes, that is the definition of looking down on people.

i dont have a shift light BTW. im talking about what u said about bolt ons on non FI cobalts

 

i think you meant shift light...

but anyway, the speed someone finishes the 1/4 mile doesn't have anything to do with their need for a shift light. The light is there to help you shift.. which you still need to do at 15, 16, 17 or 25 seconds. Now... boost gauges on an N/A car.. thats another story.

ever think that modding for speed is not what everyone does? some people mod for looks.. which is their right to do. Get off your high t/c horse and quit trying to make the 2.2 owners look bad for not buying a car that will likely result in speeding tickets and reckless street racing.

 

here comes the lock

 

Yea, i'm sure he bought performance parts for looks

Ever heard of a race track? I guess you're assuming that because someone buys a car to actually go fast, that every single one of them will street race?
If you're running 15, 16, or 17 second times, you need more/something different than a shift light, obviously. Unlease you're fine comping with the yellow busses.
I'm not specifically knocking a 2.2l owner, i'm just sick of someone saying "he drives X car, so he's an idiot." I'm simply pointing out that the car doesn't matter at all, and to prove that, check out some of the rides that are posted here in the pics section.

btw, shift light on a slow ass car is retarded, no matter how you look at it. If it's for looks, congratulations in achieving the stupid look, if that's what someone was going for.

 

??? u are avoiding the original response. Do you want to comment on how u called non FI cobalt owners DUMB for installing BOLT ONs (IDK where u got to talking about a shift lght)

 

so you buy an ss/tc join the forum and proceed to swing your dick around. get a life dude. you're no better then us.

 

No better..as in cars? I think they make diff trims for a reason ;}

 

are you telling me you have not ever and are not ever going to street race?

again, you're assuming that everyone that owns a car on this site is in it for speed... and last i checked the ss/tc ran a 14 if you can drive it well.. average joe probably high 14s.. so until you break into the 12s, dont put yourself on such a high pedestal above people in the 15s and 16s.

you missed my point the first time. it doesn't matter how FAST a car goes, a shift light is to help you SHIFT at the best rpm, which you need to do no matter how fast your car is if you want to get the best performance out of it, whether that be 10 seconds or 16 seconds.

You don't even have a "fast" car yourself. yeah its fastER than a 2.2, but there are still many cars that are faster than yours, so remember that when you call someone else's car "slow".

i think his point was that just because he has a new ss/tc HE is no better than any of us. MY car is better for me because it costs less on insurance and im less likely to get more speeding tickets... and it still has enough power to put ricer dave in my rear view if i want to.

 

You missed the part where there was an "AND" shift light.
And you're missing the point that you're in a different world if you think a shift light is a high performance mod needed to help some na -170whp car in their run. Oh no, they might run a 17.9 instead of their normal 17.4. Quick, hurry, we need a brighter shift light for more performance!!!

I think when comparing cars, i have every right to call a car that is slower. . . slower. . . i mean, that's stating a fact, right?
If someone is concerned with going fast, and they're purchasing the PERFORMANCE bolt ons to do it, they need to realize that staying N/A on these cars is not going to accomplish their goals. that's the point i'm trying to make by saying ever car brand/make has it's mentally handicapped owners.

I didn't buy my car to be a rocket, i bought it to have a decently quick daily driver, under 24k, with a 100k warranty that gets better gas mileage, and has lower monthly notes than my previous car. You're assuming i bought it to attempt a reversal of the worlds rotation with it's mean torque.

My point is, i'm tired of seeing people say someone is ignorant/stupid because of the car choice they've made, instead of looking at what they're doing with the car, and what they're goals are. If someone is achieving their goals the right way, more power to them. But for example, If someone is trying to add performance parts to a car, and their wasting money on bolt ons instead of what they need for more performance out of a lower/weaker factory output motor, well, then they're an idiot in my book.

 

You're slow.

 

very, im going to have to hit my head against a wall a few times to dumb myself down to understand that post.

 

What's a ION Redline? jk

They only made about 6800 ION Redlines total for 04, 05, 06 and 07.

We don't mind being mysterious...

 

i feel dumb after having read that ****.

 

besides the point that a 170whp car would do much better than 17s or even 16s(assuming its less than about 3500lbs) .... i said "slow" not "slower". yeah you have a car thats faster than mine, and probably any n/a 2.2 on this site, but your car is not fast. 14 seconds isn't fast. 12 is pretty fast, break in to the 12s, and then you can have a complex, but not at 14.

 

ya im done with this thread.

one last word to magnus,

just do us all a favor and dont ever think your a better person because of your car.
that just shows immaturity.
not saying thats what you think, but its more likely than not judging by ur posts I really think you did mean all non FI cobalts with bolt ons but w.e. u can stick to your shift light thing.
Im not really upset about it, tht would just be stupid.

Reality check is in order tho.

 

should check the one dyno thread, they all try and swing nuts around....in the end they are all econoboxes, even if they are the all mighty untuneable lnf.

 

I gave up a 12 second car to get something better on gas with a warranty. Given, this car would out handle my previous car, but the other one was for the straight track.
17's and 16's was an exageration, because that's how long it feels at the track when you're waiting for them to complete their pass. They don't need a shift light, they need a decent nitrous setup.

Shift Light was part of my initial post, you just highlighted the part you wanted, and omitted it. Your misunderstanding, not mine.

You also missed the part of me saying that the non-fi cobalts with bolt ons "thinking their fast" are what contribute to giving the car a bad name.
it's the equivalent of a v6 mustang slapping on dual exhaust, and a cai, and thinking it's suddenly an import killer. Broaden your scope of sight a little bit past only what you drive.
You DID get Butthurt, and you DID take offense. . . that just tells me you're either one of the people with a slowER car that thinks it's fast cause it has bolt ons, or YOU misunderstood my post.

 

i got a slow car with bolt-ons and nitrous and it's still slow. what makes you think the bulk of us 2.2 modders think we're fast cause we're modded. special maybe, but fast? not by a long shot. your logic seems to be a little jagged do to your morbid opinion.

 

It doesn't give the car a bad name, it just makes the owner look like an asshat. I have mad repect for honda and other import owners that do it right and dont throw on a wing and a muffler then try to race V8s.. The civic can be a very fast car, but just because a lot of people turn them into "rice" doesn't mean the car itself has a bad name.

 

WOW some people need to learn how to read.

Also Magnus I agree with you.

 

Alright, here it goes again:
I was making a reply to someone who was making a bias jugement against mustang owners. My reply to them was to check the rides section here, and to stop thinking that only mustangs or other car brands have asshat owners. reading comprehension > you
And this is the point i was trying to make. Do not blame the car, blame the owner of that ONE car, not all the owners of a brand of car. Looks like we're finally getting somewhere.

 

Try almost 1300 les than that.