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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:02 PM
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yet again i must remind you not everything on the internet is fact.

you can come up with all the bullshit scientific biased tests you want. for every test that says it's not dangerous, there is a test contradicting it saying it is. i know it impairs you and i know that any kind of impairment is not good when operating a vehicle.. period.

not only can i speak from personal experience, i can speak from the sober point of view of watching my friends do it..
Then put up your facts or stfu. I put up Scientific evidence? You just keep rambling
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Then put up your facts or stfu. I put up Scientific evidence? You just keep rambling
read my edited post... i have witnessed it myself.

Like i said.. If getting high didn't affect you then why even smoke it? still waiting for an answer..
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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You're the worst type of stoner.

Operating any machinery with the ability to kill under the influence of anything is dumb. Am I saying a small buzz means you're gonna die in a fiery crash? **** no but it's just not responsible.

Stop trying to justify that what you're doing is ok. It's dumb and irresponsible. I've done it and know I can get around fairly easily but being sober is still way smarter.

So stop making all people that enjoy to smoke sound like idiots. People like you are why weed has such a bad rap.

You're disgusting and you're making yourself look stupid as hell.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:32 PM
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You're the worst type of stoner. Operating any machinery with the ability to kill under the influence of anything is dumb. Am I saying a small buzz means you're gonna die in a fiery crash? **** no but it's just not responsible. Stop trying to justify that what you're doing is ok. It's dumb and irresponsible. I've done it and know I can get around fairly easily but being sober is still way smarter. So stop making all people that enjoy to smoke sound like idiots. People like you are why weed has such a bad rap. You're disgusting and you're making yourself look stupid as hell.

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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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It's guys with his viewpoint that give smokers a bad reputation.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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I go for drives with the soul purpose of smoking. I must be the worlds most disgusting human.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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I didn't say it was the worst thing ever. Read my post. I said I did it myself.

But someone trying to say they're just as good at driving high as sober is either lying, delusional or the worst sober driver ever. I don't car if people smoke. I enjoy it myself but you're not fooling anyone saying you're not impaired.

My point was that you're impaired. The things you do will be impacted by it. There would be no reason to smoke if it didn't affect you. To what extent are you impaired? Who knows it's different for everyone.

Also with the attitude of Vape is detrimental to anyone that is trying to make weed become accepted in the mainstream. Some see's a smoker like him and is totally justified to hate weed.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 02:50 PM
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I didn't say it was the worst thing ever. Read my post. I said I did it myself.

But someone trying to say they're just as good at driving high as sober is either lying, delusional or the worst sober driver ever. I don't car if people smoke. I enjoy it myself but you're not fooling anyone saying you're not impaired.

My point was that you're impaired. The things you do will be impacted by it. There would be no reason to smoke if it didn't affect you. To what extent are you impaired? Who knows it's different for everyone.

Also with the attitude of Vape is detrimental to anyone that is trying to make weed become accepted in the mainstream. Some see's a smoker like him and is totally justified to hate weed.
exactly what i was saying.. Thank you! Not saying the world is going to end because people get high and drive but it's still not a good idea for some people.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 03:28 PM
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if weed was legal i think there would be a lot less smoking and driving.. a lot of us smokers gotta leave the house to smoke since its frowned upon since its illegal and theres nowhere to go and smoke so we do it on the road, which is terrible...
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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This the best I could find. Looks like Infact you were wrong and I was right

Marijuana and Driving: A Review of the Scientific Evidence
This is a pretty poor paper. It basically states that the smokers are impaired, yet they are cognitive enough to realize it so they slow down to drive "safer" thereby not being a danger. Well guess what, if they were sober they wouldn't be slowing down or driving more "cautiously" as they like to put it, so yes it does affect motor skills.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VapeWI
Did you not watch the video that guy posted above? Pretty much proved my point. Clearly the heavy everyday smoker was fine driving.
That moment you realize you're conversating with a brick.

Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
I go for drives with the soul purpose of smoking. I must be the worlds most disgusting human.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Daddy
read my edited post... i have witnessed it myself.

Like i said.. If getting high didn't affect you then why even smoke it? still waiting for an answer..
Because thc and cbd are medicine. I would still vape it even if it didn't get me high because it helps with my depression and anxiety ALOT. Also helps me sleep mostly because of the anxiety. Believe it or not I have asthma and thc opens the airways and helps me breathe. I had add as a kid that is when I discovered marijuana. I also make edibles for my back pain. So it isn't just the high that I do it. Do your research. If you want actual studies of this just let me know.

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This is a pretty poor paper. It basically states that the smokers are impaired, yet they are cognitive enough to realize it so they slow down to drive "safer" thereby not being a danger. Well guess what, if they were sober they wouldn't be slowing down or driving more "cautiously" as they like to put it, so yes it does affect motor skills.
Exactly it was to show the HUGE difference of drinking and driving and smoking and driving. They made it seem that they were an equal thing to do but that just isn't true. If I had to choose one I would much rather have a bunch of stoned drivers on the road than drunk ones.

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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:55 PM
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Because thc and cbd are medicine. I would still vape it even if it didn't get me high because it helps with my depression and anxiety ALOT. Also helps me sleep mostly because of the anxiety. Believe it or not I have asthma and thc opens the airways and helps me breathe. I had add as a kid that is when I discovered marijuana. I also make edibles for my back pain. So it isn't just the high that I do it. Do your research. If you want actual studies of this just let me know.
do my research? i'm asthmatic and i can tell you it sure as hell didn't help open my airways nor did my doctor recommend it..

and as for why you take it valid reasons aside, you still shouldn't be behind the wheel sorry.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:30 PM
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Such a gray area. Really depends on the person and how they react.

FYI If you're a veteran user being high really isn't being high. Being high will be your norm, and being sober will be more of a trip.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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do my research? i'm asthmatic and i can tell you it sure as hell didn't help open my airways nor did my doctor recommend it..

and as for why you take it valid reasons aside, you still shouldn't be behind the wheel sorry.
http://www.leafly.com/news/medical/can-cannabis-help-asthma-patients-27df

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000132

http://www.truthonpot.com/2013/05/11/medical-marijuana-and-asthma-benefits-vs-risks/

And those are just the first three off Google. And remembered that I don't even combust it I only vaporize although if you read those articles even if you smoke it it really doesn't make a difference.

And I'll let scientific evidence tell me whether or not to drive while high. **** I'll be the evidence to show that yes it my impairs me a little but not enough for it to make a difference in my driving. If that were the case then no one should be able to drive after drinking coffee as that is a stimulant which is actually a drug, right? Why stop at marijuana? See do you see that the actual impairment does matter and until there is evidence that backs you up then I'll continue to say otherwise. How about you just forgive and forgot and I'll do the same. ONE LOVE!

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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 11:02 AM
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I had astha until i started smoking. Now i have no symtoms. Could be that i grew out of it
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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I had astha until i started smoking. Now i have no symtoms. Could be that i grew out of it
Do you vape? I notice when I rolled it actually messed with my breathing but when I started using a bong it actually really helped my breathing
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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I had astha until i started smoking. Now i have no symtoms. Could be that i grew out of it
I also had asthma pretty bad as a kid. Went to the hospital a few times for attacks. Now I have no symptoms. But remember that I have been doing nothing but vaping for over 5 years(I don't know exactly but around there). I used to smoke cigs while I smoked weed and I was having major issues with my voice. Coughing **** up every morning then having to talk all day at work, my throat was raw as **** and I would lose my voice everyday at like 8pm and I physically couldn't speak. That is when I stopped smoking cigs completely cold turkey. I was always worried about conserving my weed but I only looked into vaping once I stopped smoking cigs. Once I started there was no turning back. The taste, the high, the efficiency, the reclaim, the health savings, and it doesn't smell as much. There were too many pluses for me to go back.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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I have an expensive herbalaire unit but I barely use it anymore unless I'm showing off to friends that haven't vapped before.

I just love my bong's too much. I think it's the whole motion and tradition of packing a nice bowl, brewing it slowly, and inhaling. Similar to how all the older guy's only roll joints and use pipe's, I was born in the bong generation.
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I also had asthma pretty bad as a kid. Went to the hospital a few times for attacks. Now I have no symptoms. But remember that I have been doing nothing but vaping for over 5 years(I don't know exactly but around there). I used to smoke cigs while I smoked weed and I was having major issues with my voice. Coughing **** up every morning then having to talk all day at work, my throat was raw as **** and I would lose my voice everyday at like 8pm and I physically couldn't speak. That is when I stopped smoking cigs completely cold turkey. I was always worried about conserving my weed but I only looked into vaping once I stopped smoking cigs. Once I started there was no turning back. The taste, the high, the efficiency, the reclaim, the health savings, and it doesn't smell as much. There were too many pluses for me to go back.
nice.

the wax that people can use in those e-cig type devices seem sweet too. a friend at my college was smoking one on campus and i didn't smell it or anything. i didn't even know until he told me!

i'd rather do that... if only i could find butter... lol

cuz really smoking anything is hard on the lungs. and smelly. and just a pain in the ass.

p.s. i'm not saying smoking anything cured my asthma, just something i thought i'd throw in, lol. most people do grow out of asthma symptoms over time.
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I grew out of my asthma. Weed free. Dun dun dun.

I think the main issue is your idea of what constitutes
actual peer reviewed scientific work, not something you googled and grabbed. Remember, your trying to retroactively support a preconceived notion.
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Originally Posted by EFoxwell
I grew out of my asthma. Weed free. Dun dun dun.

I think the main issue is your idea of what constitutes
actual peer reviewed scientific work, not something you googled and grabbed. Remember, your trying to retroactively support a preconceived notion.
I grew out of mine as well without ever smoking weed.

And I haven't actually looked at the articles to see if they are peer reviewed journal entries, but remember you are speaking from the point of weakness. What you are advocating, driving high, is illegal. Whether you think it affects your driving or not doesn't matter, it is still illegal. Therefore you have to prove enough evidence, beyond reasonable doubt, that it doesn't impair every single person that smokes weed.

Edit: And by you, I mean VapeWI. Based on what I quoted I thought that might be confusing.
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^I'm with this guy.

Also quoting stuff from weed propaganda sites isn't really scientifically proving anything.
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Old Feb 16, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shanedude
I have an expensive herbalaire unit but I barely use it anymore unless I'm showing off to friends that haven't vapped before.

I just love my bong's too much. I think it's the whole motion and tradition of packing a nice bowl, brewing it slowly, and inhaling. Similar to how all the older guy's only roll joints and use pipe's, I was born in the bong generation.
I have the VapeXHale EVO. If you like to use your bongs and you like vapor then this is the way to go. But it is expensive. You can also convert your herbalaire(I'm assuming it's the one the does bags?) to use on a bong.

http://youtu.be/gs34a-80JXE

http://youtu.be/3T6AbwIrNKI
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Interesting.
Pot Fuels Surge in Drugged Driving Deaths - NBC News
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