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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 08:36 PM
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How much power are GMS1 T/C's putting down??

I just can't see a FWD Cobalt that traps at 102MPH stock (plus whatever the GMS1 adds) beating a RWD 6 speed manual Camaro that traps 111MPH stock.

The new Camaro is a very powerful car, maybe the guy just couldn't drive worth a damn.
i believe it dude. ive seen it done
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 08SSTCRD
How much power are GMS1 T/C's putting down??

I just can't see a FWD Cobalt that traps at 102MPH stock (plus whatever the GMS1 adds) beating a RWD 6 speed manual Camaro that traps 111MPH stock.

The new Camaro is a very powerful car, maybe the guy just couldn't drive worth a damn.
First of all, TCs trap 104-105 stock. It's been done.

Second, a GMS1 TC puts down around 280whp and 300wtq, if I'm not mistaken. I could see 107-108mph traps out of them. That gets them within range of a Camaro with a shitty driver which, let's be honest, is probably fairly common. SS Camaros are being marked up into the territory the 'Vette used to occupy - I'm willing to bet its primary demographic is fat old men.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Force
First of all, TCs trap 104-105 stock. It's been done.
Only 3 or 4 have done so stock...the rest is 103mph and below.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:28 AM
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 03:53 AM
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idk about a GM Stg1 Cobalt running with a new Camaro SS but a well tuned LNF should be pulling on them.
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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HAHAHAHAH !! I just wish you had video's for just ONE of these races !!
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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HAHAHAHAH !! I just wish you had video's for just ONE of these races !!
No camera in the car for this one. This particular Camaro had 4 people in it. 2 fat guys in the front, and 2 fat bitches in the back (no idea how they fit back there). I'd say average 250lbs per person.

Not only that but from a 40 roll he started in 3rd gear (moron). Once the TC shifted to 4th though the Camaro ripped by and was about to pull about 10 more lengths in a matter of seconds

I told my friend if we dumped the fat chicks and let me drive that car it would be romper stomper on his Cobalt, he agreed lol

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Force
First of all, TCs trap 104-105 stock. It's been done.

Second, a GMS1 TC puts down around 280whp and 300wtq, if I'm not mistaken. I could see 107-108mph traps out of them. That gets them within range of a Camaro with a shitty driver which, let's be honest, is probably fairly common. SS Camaros are being marked up into the territory the 'Vette used to occupy - I'm willing to bet its primary demographic is fat old men.
So what you're doing is comparing the highest possible tc trap speed and comparing it to a lower than average ss trap speed? Just want to make sure I understand
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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i wouldnt buy a new camaro. my friends cobalt ss beat a new autobot camaro ss w. intake tune headers and exhaust from a 40 roll by about 3-5 carlinks and it was increasing
Then, you've found out that there really are some sheit azz drivers out there.
That, or your buddy's Balt is a LONG way from stock.

They may be a few hundred lbs heavier, but they have almost twice the power, and a lot more torque under the curve.
Just simple math. And from a dig, stock for stock, with comparable drivers, it would be a slaughter fest.
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That gets them within range of a Camaro with a shitty driver which, let's be honest, is probably fairly common. SS Camaros are being marked up into the territory the 'Vette used to occupy - I'm willing to bet its primary demographic is fat old men.
Where do some of you guys come from? Seriously...
I race with quite a few Fox body guys and they are almost all under 175 lbs.
I do agree that most of the Cobalt owners are younger, but your other trap speed comparos are not real world.

On the topic of trap speeds, they are only 1 indicator of a cars capability at the track.
That is why races "from a roll" level the playing field a LOT.
Low end torque is very hard to compete with in real world drag racing. There are many other variables involved in the outcome of any drag race.
I've seen cars ET the same with extremely different trap speeds.
ex:
10.8 @ 126
10.8 @ 138

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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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Then, you've found out that there really are some sheit azz drivers out there.
That, or your buddy's Balt is a LONG way from stock.

They may be a few hundred lbs heavier, but they have almost twice the power, and a lot more torque under the curve.
Just simple math. And from a dig, stock for stock, with comparable drivers, it would be a slaughter fest.
Scott

well the camaro was automatic. lol so he cant really **** up shifting or anything lol and he had exhause intake tune headers or some **** like that. and my friend balt is tune intake exhaust so idk. he did win from a dig. but he is rwd and auto. and the balt just spins lol. but idk man
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 06slowbaltsc
Then, you've found out that there really are some sheit azz drivers out there.
That, or your buddy's Balt is a LONG way from stock.

They may be a few hundred lbs heavier, but they have almost twice the power, and a lot more torque under the curve.
Just simple math. And from a dig, stock for stock, with comparable drivers, it would be a slaughter fest.
Scott

well the camaro was automatic. lol so he cant really **** up shifting or anything lol and he had exhause intake tune headers or some **** like that. and my friend balt is tune intake exhaust so idk. he did win from a dig. but he is rwd and auto. and the balt just spins lol. but idk man
So a tuned TC with a intake and exhaust put 5+ cars on a full bolt on auto 2010 Camaro SS? Umm yeah....



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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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So a tuned TC with a intake and exhaust put 5+ cars on a full bolt on auto 2010 Camaro SS? Umm yeah....



Tyler
alright w.e u say. all ik is i have the vid. and the guy w. the camaro told us before the race he had intake tune exhaust for sure. idk how that is full bolt on but w.e you say. im just tellin you what happened. why wud i make up some random bullshit.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 06slowbaltsc
alright w.e u say. all ik is i have the vid. and the guy w. the camaro told us before the race he had intake tune exhaust for sure. idk how that is full bolt on but w.e you say. im just tellin you what happened. why wud i make up some random bullshit.
Video please.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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how i upload it? and why do you find it so hard to believe?
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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bc a bolted and tuned css will run easy 12s lol all day long....
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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ok...well idk wat the deal was. what about a gto w. full exhaust intake headers and throttle body. and idk if there is more? who u think would win that
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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the goat if he could drive lol again an easy 12 second car...
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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yeahh so explain how he was side by side w. the goat
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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the goat driver was wat we in the racing game call a non-driver.....

(or u were racing at a very high altitude...)
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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ok look up the vid...Cobalt SS/TC vs GTO w/bolt ons and he is not a non driver...
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 06slowbaltsc
alright w.e u say. all ik is i have the vid. and the guy w. the camaro told us before the race he had intake tune exhaust for sure. idk how that is full bolt on but w.e you say. im just tellin you what happened. why wud i make up some random bullshit.
WTF, speak in friggen english you uneducated little... WTH is ik??? or w.??? or w.e???

Listen, full boltons usually refers to a car that has most the bolt ons you can have. You said the car had long tubes along with intake, exhaust and a tune. That is pretty much most the bolt ons minus a few minor things like a under drive pulley.

You do understand your buddies balt is maybe a 111 trap on a good day with the wind at his back. Stock SS auto's have gone 109ish. Full bolt ons should put them much higher then that, as the tune alone helps a bunch on the auto SS's in removing the torque management and helping better control the AFM and 6speed tranny. The more I look at your story the more I am thinking it is BS and he raced a full bolt on V6...

Why would you make that up? Shoot I don't know, maybe because you are talking in text and trying to gain some respect online to give your self a boost of self confidence???

Thumbs down, haha...

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how i upload it? and why do you find it so hard to believe?
See above smart guy...

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ok...well idk wat the deal was. what about a gto w. full exhaust intake headers and throttle body. and idk if there is more? who u think would win that
A tune only TC versus a properly driven stock GTO should be pretty much a drivers race with the edge going to the balt under a 100. Full bolt on GTO versus a full bolt on TC (DP, good tune and other supporting mods) should be about the same again.

Again full exhaust equals pretty much full bolt ons, and a set of long tubes on LS cars work wonders. A full bolt on GTO versus your buddies car the GTO should pull a couple cars and get worse above a 100. Now being a 6.0 or 5.7 makes a difference too. Which model was it? And a auto or 6 speed?

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yeahh so explain how he was side by side w. the goat
Dude can't drive worth a ****???

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ok look up the vid...Cobalt SS/TC vs GTO w/bolt ons and he is not a non driver...
Why don't you just search some vids from Slowsho?

Tyler

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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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i think it is the 6.0 not sure. i think his year model is a 05. and why the **** would i want to gain respect online with a group of people that hate all the time and always down somebody on every ******* story they come up with. i have already seen this 3-4 times. i just think its bullshit how everybody on here always bashes other peoples storys just because they do not believe them. And he was not a v6 dude. i know better than that.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 06slowbaltsc
i think it is the 6.0 not sure. i think his year model is a 05. and why the **** would i want to gain respect online with a group of people that hate all the time and always down somebody on every ******* story they come up with. i have already seen this 3-4 times. i just think its bullshit how everybody on here always bashes other peoples storys just because they do not believe them. And he was not a v6 dude. i know better than that.
05+ is 6.0, but don't come using someone's stories when you don't even know anything about the car. It could have been stock with a loudmouth on it for all you know...

You won't think its BS if you didn't come on here telling fairy tale stories then you wouldn't be called out. But I always get a crack out of people who say "why would I lie...". Like I said, it is probably a pick up for you to hear people talk about your stories and brings a smile to your face, maybe even some happy tears?

If you knew better then you would know that your buddies balt wouldn't pull 5+ cars on a full bolt on 2010 Camaro SS, probably not even a stock SS at that with how the TC notoriously starts lagging above a 100!

Tyler
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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all that is really funny because i was in the car for both races so i dont see how you can tell me how the race went and how it did not happend. and i also personally know the guy with the goat so dont try and tell me that i dont know his mods.
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