LSJ vs LS1 vs Built wrx 03ish?
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LSJ vs LS1 vs Built wrx 03ish?
I raped the stock LS1 and me and the LS1 got gangbanged by the wrx... grrr
My mods: 3.1 pulley, 42's, zzp s2 pcm, N2MB dual feature, axle back 2.50 exhaust, 3inch catless d/p by ZZP (thank you guys for making it possible for me to shoot flames), air box mod and a good driver mod
LS1 Camaro: Intake, Cat-back
WRX: Built bottom end, Cut Gears, Built stock Turbo, i/h/e and god knows what else, huge front mount
My mods: 3.1 pulley, 42's, zzp s2 pcm, N2MB dual feature, axle back 2.50 exhaust, 3inch catless d/p by ZZP (thank you guys for making it possible for me to shoot flames), air box mod and a good driver mod
LS1 Camaro: Intake, Cat-back
WRX: Built bottom end, Cut Gears, Built stock Turbo, i/h/e and god knows what else, huge front mount
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I raped the stock LS1 and me and the LS1 got gangbanged by the wrx... grrr
My mods: 3.1 pulley, 42's, zzp s2 pcm, N2MB dual feature, axle back 2.50 exhaust, 3inch catless d/p by ZZP (thank you guys for making it possible for me to shoot flames), air box mod and a good driver mod
LS1 Camaro: Intake, Cat-back
WRX: Built bottom end, Cut Gears, Built stock Turbo, i/h/e and god knows what else, huge front mount
My mods: 3.1 pulley, 42's, zzp s2 pcm, N2MB dual feature, axle back 2.50 exhaust, 3inch catless d/p by ZZP (thank you guys for making it possible for me to shoot flames), air box mod and a good driver mod
LS1 Camaro: Intake, Cat-back
WRX: Built bottom end, Cut Gears, Built stock Turbo, i/h/e and god knows what else, huge front mount
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^ I agree with them on the WRX, it takes alot to make them move like that.
I also call BS on the "raping" of the LS1 with your mods. Beat yeah if the driver isn't the best or an auto but you should have had your hands full of that Camaro and not rape one by 5+ cars...
Tyler
I also call BS on the "raping" of the LS1 with your mods. Beat yeah if the driver isn't the best or an auto but you should have had your hands full of that Camaro and not rape one by 5+ cars...
Tyler
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Built stock turbo could mean a lot of different things. To me, if this is what he claimed, then all that was stock on it was the housing and hot side size. Blouch and Forced Performance make a ton of different combo wheels for the cold/hot sides. Everything from mid 30 lb/min up to high 50s all in a stock trim.
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build stock turbo could also mean it was modified = compressor housing machined out to fit a larger compressor wheel in there like the Enforcer turbos from Forward Motion or the FP Green turbos.
As an example you are talking about basically fitting close to a MOPAR S3 compressor wheel inside a stock turbo housing. Most of the time the only issue is the heat the turbo generates. So the BFMIC plus maybe water/meth injection helps to drop the temps back down to prevent detonation.
They work though. Look stock but produce like 40 more whp depending on the setup, maybe more. As for fitting the STi turbo into the WRX, yep a guy I knew in England (american guy with american WRX '06) did that to his car. definitely helped him out. I used to walk his car with the WRX turbo on it. With the STi turbo, his other mods, and a professional tune, it was hard to beat him or I couldn't on the street. All races were from digs so the advantage of traction goes to him.
As an example you are talking about basically fitting close to a MOPAR S3 compressor wheel inside a stock turbo housing. Most of the time the only issue is the heat the turbo generates. So the BFMIC plus maybe water/meth injection helps to drop the temps back down to prevent detonation.
They work though. Look stock but produce like 40 more whp depending on the setup, maybe more. As for fitting the STi turbo into the WRX, yep a guy I knew in England (american guy with american WRX '06) did that to his car. definitely helped him out. I used to walk his car with the WRX turbo on it. With the STi turbo, his other mods, and a professional tune, it was hard to beat him or I couldn't on the street. All races were from digs so the advantage of traction goes to him.
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^ I agree with them on the WRX, it takes alot to make them move like that.
I also call BS on the "raping" of the LS1 with your mods. Beat yeah if the driver isn't the best or an auto but you should have had your hands full of that Camaro and not rape one by 5+ cars...
Tyler
I also call BS on the "raping" of the LS1 with your mods. Beat yeah if the driver isn't the best or an auto but you should have had your hands full of that Camaro and not rape one by 5+ cars...
Tyler
p.s. if you don't want to search, link to the thread is below...
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/north-east-56/philly-area-chat-thread-110462/
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and if you wanna call BS on the raping of the LS1 Camaro and you think i can't roll with cars top end, use the search button type in "Philly Chat Thread" and just ask about me, they will tell you. I keep up with a 12.8 WS6 w/dr's on a roll. and i beat balts around here with 2.7, 3.0, 2.9's pulleys and h/e's. my cobalt is just a factory freak... still don't believe me, ask there also. thank you.
p.s. if you don't want to search, link to the thread is below...
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110462
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idk im pretty sure also the cut gears makes his accel better improved, it could of been of stock built turbo ya kno?
and if you wanna call BS on the raping of the LS1 Camaro and you think i can't roll with cars top end, use the search button type in "Philly Chat Thread" and just ask about me, they will tell you. I keep up with a 12.8 WS6 w/dr's on a roll. and i beat balts around here with 2.7, 3.0, 2.9's pulleys and h/e's. my cobalt is just a factory freak... still don't believe me, ask there also. thank you.
p.s. if you don't want to search, link to the thread is below...
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110462
and if you wanna call BS on the raping of the LS1 Camaro and you think i can't roll with cars top end, use the search button type in "Philly Chat Thread" and just ask about me, they will tell you. I keep up with a 12.8 WS6 w/dr's on a roll. and i beat balts around here with 2.7, 3.0, 2.9's pulleys and h/e's. my cobalt is just a factory freak... still don't believe me, ask there also. thank you.
p.s. if you don't want to search, link to the thread is below...
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110462
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WRX didn't have a stock turbo if he pulled the SS at all, and didn't have a stock anything if it managed to pull an I/E LS1 from a roll. Usually even fully modded aftermarket turbo WRX's can barely keep up with stock LS1's, never mind one with a stock turbo.
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Nice races. The WRX was not stock if he pulled you like that. Hell I beat my friend's 18G WRX by a car length or so, so he was lying to you. If the LS1 was auto or a bad driver I could see you pulling a car maybe, my friends stage 2 balt with a tune hung within 2 cars of a stock LS1 6 speed. I raced another friend's LS1 this weekend with intake, exhuast, and tune and I had a passenger and only pulled him by about 2 cars from 40-110, got that on on video
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idk im pretty sure also the cut gears makes his accel better improved, it could of been of stock built turbo ya kno?
and if you wanna call BS on the raping of the LS1 Camaro and you think i can't roll with cars top end, use the search button type in "Philly Chat Thread" and just ask about me, they will tell you. I keep up with a 12.8 WS6 w/dr's on a roll. and i beat balts around here with 2.7, 3.0, 2.9's pulleys and h/e's. my cobalt is just a factory freak... still don't believe me, ask there also. thank you.
p.s. if you don't want to search, link to the thread is below...
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110462
and if you wanna call BS on the raping of the LS1 Camaro and you think i can't roll with cars top end, use the search button type in "Philly Chat Thread" and just ask about me, they will tell you. I keep up with a 12.8 WS6 w/dr's on a roll. and i beat balts around here with 2.7, 3.0, 2.9's pulleys and h/e's. my cobalt is just a factory freak... still don't believe me, ask there also. thank you.
p.s. if you don't want to search, link to the thread is below...
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110462
Look below, people are making fun of your claim now so it looks like I don't need to do anything...
12.8 haha, that is what a stock one "can" run! Keep thinking you raped one bud, must have been a V6 to pull it that bad...
LOL at the factory freak part, I bet you have the driver mod too right?
PS, you just said "keep up" too FYI, that is a far cry from raping!
Nice races. The WRX was not stock if he pulled you like that. Hell I beat my friend's 18G WRX by a car length or so, so he was lying to you. If the LS1 was auto or a bad driver I could see you pulling a car maybe, my friends stage 2 balt with a tune hung within 2 cars of a stock LS1 6 speed. I raced another friend's LS1 this weekend with intake, exhuast, and tune and I had a passenger and only pulled him by about 2 cars from 40-110, got that on on video
Was it an auto? 40 is a huge dead spot for them, but even then he should have ran you down after wards.
Pullied cobalts aren't fast period, with all their bolt ons they are as fast as a stock LS1. So for you to "only pull two cars" (and saying only like you expected more) with a passenger means you are spraying or you raced a LT1. Bolt on LS1's can easily trap low 11X, you need a TVS to do that!
Tyler
PS, most of that becomes null and void if your sig isn't up to date too FYI...
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So you want me to take the word of some friends of your circle jearking on how fast your economy car is?
Look below, people are making fun of your claim now so it looks like I don't need to do anything...
12.8 haha, that is what a stock one "can" run! Keep thinking you raped one bud, must have been a V6 to pull it that bad...
LOL at the factory freak part, I bet you have the driver mod too right?
PS, you just said "keep up" too FYI, that is a far cry from raping!
So you and your 13.8 @ 106 pulled two plus cars on a bolt on LS1 and you had a passenger? You are now in the same league as the OP...
Was it an auto? 40 is a huge dead spot for them, but even then he should have ran you down after wards.
Pullied cobalts aren't fast period, with all their bolt ons they are as fast as a stock LS1. So for you to "only pull two cars" (and saying only like you expected more) with a passenger means you are spraying or you raced a LT1. Bolt on LS1's can easily trap low 11X, you need a TVS to do that!
Tyler
PS, most of that becomes null and void if your sig isn't up to date too FYI...
Look below, people are making fun of your claim now so it looks like I don't need to do anything...
12.8 haha, that is what a stock one "can" run! Keep thinking you raped one bud, must have been a V6 to pull it that bad...
LOL at the factory freak part, I bet you have the driver mod too right?
PS, you just said "keep up" too FYI, that is a far cry from raping!
So you and your 13.8 @ 106 pulled two plus cars on a bolt on LS1 and you had a passenger? You are now in the same league as the OP...
Was it an auto? 40 is a huge dead spot for them, but even then he should have ran you down after wards.
Pullied cobalts aren't fast period, with all their bolt ons they are as fast as a stock LS1. So for you to "only pull two cars" (and saying only like you expected more) with a passenger means you are spraying or you raced a LT1. Bolt on LS1's can easily trap low 11X, you need a TVS to do that!
Tyler
PS, most of that becomes null and void if your sig isn't up to date too FYI...
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i call bull on crushing the camaro if its the ls1. and yeah the wrx was def not stock turbo if it was an 03 aka the bug eyed model. they have a 2.0 liter and stage 2 on them (off the shelf tune and tbe) will only get you 230-240 whp and 250-260 wtrq
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