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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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mach 1 vs ss/tc?

Got a friend that's selling his v6 for a mach 1. Can't drive stick very well but that comes with time. My car is bone stock. He is talking so much **** just like anyone with a v6 mustang. I told him I can't wait for him to get his car. I told him he can have any race he wants dig roll I don't give a ****, and I will stay unmodded till after the race. According to him my fail wheel drive won't have a chance. But yet he was in my car when I roll raced a supercharged 2v saleen and pulled on him. What do you guys think will be the outcome??

Hell I'm even looking for a car for him know I'm that annoyed. So if anyone knows were I can find a stock mach 1 that is dark gray around Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Indiana let me know PLEASE!!
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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The Mach1s are about equal to a 3V GT (05+). From a roll it will be close and from a dig he should take you. It all depends on driver though, if he can't drive you'll smoke his ass from any speed. Going from a V6 to a Mach1 is a huge jump for someone that really isn't experienced.

Tell him to quit being a ricer talking **** about something he doesn't even have yet.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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they are pretty quick i lost to one from a 60roll by 2cars with 1 passenger and i pull stock tcs by a car. wat r ur mods?
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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I'm bone stock. I figure if he can launch the car he will win from a dig. But I ride with him all the time and don't believe he can win based on how he drives. On the high way I think I can get him.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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it's gonna depend on the driver. It is going to be very close from any roll, but from a dig you're dead if he can drive.

check mach1registry.com to see if there are any stockers for sale. That's the best place to look.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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There's a black Mach 1 here in Lapeer for sale. I'll come down and spank him if he beats you somehow though
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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When I was stock I beat a mach 1, may have been cause of driver, but I beat him by like 2 cars. Nonetheless it'll be fun
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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maybe mine was a modded one thats y i lost
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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most likely
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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maybe. we can trap 105-106 stock with a good driver. Shibito, you may be talking about my car. I am fairly close to lapeer and I'm out at the track all the time, but my car just sold and it is nowhere near stock.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jimssdime
Got a friend that's selling his v6 for a mach 1. Can't drive stick very well but that comes with time. My car is bone stock. He is talking so much **** just like anyone with a v6 mustang. I told him I can't wait for him to get his car. I told him he can have any race he wants dig roll I don't give a ****, and I will stay unmodded till after the race. According to him my fail wheel drive won't have a chance. But yet he was in my car when I roll raced a supercharged 2v saleen and pulled on him. What do you guys think will be the outcome??

Hell I'm even looking for a car for him know I'm that annoyed. So if anyone knows were I can find a stock mach 1 that is dark gray around Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Indiana let me know PLEASE!!
Against a completely stock mach 1 it would probably be close from a dig, from a roll you should take him.

The problem with a mach 1 is that I have never seen a completely stock one.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Well I spent some time today helping him look for one but hes is probably going to keep bitching out on buying one. Guess it has to be perfect. I will run the black car buy him to see if he wants black.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
maybe. we can trap 105-106 stock with a good driver. Shibito, you may be talking about my car. I am fairly close to lapeer and I'm out at the track all the time, but my car just sold and it is nowhere near stock.
I thought you were building up the motor?

So what are you plannning on getting now?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
I thought you were building up the motor?

So what are you plannning on getting now?
i finished the motor. The car is running with a 2.8H on a forged rotating assembly, a stock top end, a t56 and a built 8.8". I have a 9" but, i never got around to the swap. a guy i've known for a few years made me an offer i couldn't refuse on the car and i get to see it run all the time, so i decided to go another route. The car was too much work for being in college. I'm really not sure, but i'm thinking '10 camaro or a high mileage 300zx that i'll paint matte black and build to a T. I'm gonna wait a semester and really make sure i know what i want. We'll see.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
i finished the motor. The car is running with a 2.8H on a forged rotating assembly, a stock top end, a t56 and a built 8.8". I have a 9" but, i never got around to the swap. a guy i've known for a few years made me an offer i couldn't refuse on the car and i get to see it run all the time, so i decided to go another route. The car was too much work for being in college. I'm really not sure, but i'm thinking '10 camaro or a high mileage 300zx that i'll paint matte black and build to a T. I'm gonna wait a semester and really make sure i know what i want. We'll see.
Switching to the dark side I see. LOL

You might want to look for a used GT500 too man. You'll be able to pick up a GT500 next spring for mid - upper 20s.

What has the Mach ran at the track?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 02:29 AM
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maybe. we can trap 105-106 stock with a good driver. Shibito, you may be talking about my car. I am fairly close to lapeer and I'm out at the track all the time, but my car just sold and it is nowhere near stock.
he had a Spectra Air filter and JDM muffler
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cakeeater
maybe. we can trap 105-106 stock with a good driver. Shibito, you may be talking about my car. I am fairly close to lapeer and I'm out at the track all the time, but my car just sold and it is nowhere near stock.
Actually it's a fake Mach 1 at the dealer here lol. Has the Mach 1 decals and the cool hood but it's just a GT under the hood.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 04YellowGT
The Mach1s are about equal to a 3V GT (05+). From a roll it will be close and from a dig he should take you. It all depends on driver though, if he can't drive you'll smoke his ass from any speed. Going from a V6 to a Mach1 is a huge jump for someone that really isn't experienced.

Tell him to quit being a ricer talking **** about something he doesn't even have yet.
I'd say the Mach 1 5-spd's were are a little stronger than the '05+ GT's especially in a roll race. The stock Mach's I've seen had no problem pulling on the newer GT's. They average mid to low 13's trapping 104-105 on a good night. He'd have a decent advantage on the Cobalt from a dig if he can drive, much closer from a roll.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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If you do lose, take it on the chin...he needed twice the cylinders and almost 2.5 times the displacement to beat you.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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If you do lose, take it on the chin...he needed twice the cylinders and almost 2.5 times the displacement to beat you.
The Mach owner could say the same type of ricer argument. He needed a turbocharger and direct injection to beat a 6-7 year old car!
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Stock Mach1 5spds run 12.9 to 13.4 with a good driver. However they made auto mach 1s which had a lower redline and only a 4 spd. They are high 13 low 14 cars.

The Mach1s do pull uptop so if the kid learned to drive and your stock he will pull you in every gear.

On the well its a v8 argument well its an early 90s designed v8. Its also a heavier car.

TC SC cobalts are nice cars but dont get cocky with them stock. All things being equal the mach 1 is going to get an SC/TC in every gear.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tornatic!!
I'd say the Mach 1 5-spd's were are a little stronger than the '05+ GT's especially in a roll race. The stock Mach's I've seen had no problem pulling on the newer GT's. They average mid to low 13's trapping 104-105 on a good night. He'd have a decent advantage on the Cobalt from a dig if he can drive, much closer from a roll.
The average Mach 1 with a 5spd I have seen runs in the 13.3-13.4 range, average 05+ GT with a 5spd is in the 13.5-13.6, not much of a difference. I think the OP is done from a dig, if the guy knows how to drive and is used to a 5spd, and from a roll I cant see the SS/TC pulling by much, if any.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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if his driving is a bad as u state ill agree and say ull beat him... but if he can drive itll be a rough run
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Most likley im going to be tuned before the run not going to tell him. I just want to **** of a mustang guy.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jimssdime
Most likley im going to be tuned before the run not going to tell him. I just want to **** of a mustang guy.
Dont lie about your mods. Then that in turn makes him think your car is a low 13 second car stock, which it isnt. Race him before the tune, then get the tune, tell him, and race him again. Dont be one of those guys who always lies about his mods. Why **** off a Mustang guy, it doesnt prove anything besides there are probably 100k Mustangs in your state alone that can beat you.
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