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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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SS/TC vs. Me.

A buddy of mine has a little brother that recently purchased a 2009 SS Cobalt. Since then he has done a full exhaust, no cat, intake, suspension, clutch/flywheel and Trifecta tune. So my friend tells me that he wants to go against the Civic. I say sure why not. I wanted to see what these things had. I just needed a day to get the car ready. (removed front dampers for stock, fluid change, take off street exhaust for the dump) So a week later we decide to head over to a stretch of closed road. It was another friend's property and perfect for a good ole drag. He decided to run on DRs and I was on BFG SRs. I didn't have a problem with that. We hang out for a bit and talk (not car related) then after a little over an hour we head outside and warm up.

Round 1:

We line up and go on 4 count. Obviously he's had some practice with launching on DRs because he shot out like a rocket on the start. I was hurting for traction in first so I feathered the throttle trying to get it back. I grab second while he was over two lengths ahead. Once I hit 3rd I started closing the gap pretty quickly. At about this time I saw him spit out a ball of fire. I hit 4th and came door to door. We started running out of pavement so we shut it down.

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We line up again on a 4 count. I don't think he got as good of a launch this time but I got a much better one than before. So the holeshot was pretty even. I was on the right so my dump was deafening even when my window was up. I throw it into second and started pulling on him. I hit 3rd and was one length ahead. I got to the top of 4th and I had pulled about 2.5 car lengths.



I was surprised with how quick his car was with just those mods. I guess that tune really livens up the car. All in all fun races. Oh and I know the guy too he's not a bag of tools. There was no **** talk, like most kill stories seem to have haha. We all relaxed by the pool for the rest of the night.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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good job might i ask what you have done to your civic?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalttc05
good job might i ask what you have done to your civic?
Thank you sir! It was a very fun night. I put the modifications in my signature.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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thats awesome. didnt take to much to be quick huh?

i was playing with the idea of getting a old civic as a dd and slap some nitrous on it or something i dunno. just something to mess with people
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalttc05
thats awesome. didnt take to much to be quick huh?

i was playing with the idea of getting a old civic as a dd and slap some nitrous on it or something i dunno. just something to mess with people
he had a whole engine swap to a prelude motor

correct me if im wrong beefycivic
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalttc05
thats awesome. didnt take to much to be quick huh?

i was playing with the idea of getting a old civic as a dd and slap some nitrous on it or something i dunno. just something to mess with people
H-swaps are so cheap. You don't even need nitrous. Just a stock swap with minor stuff can get you low 13s in a HB. Keep your reliability.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
H-swaps are so cheap. You don't even need nitrous. Just a stock swap with minor stuff can get you low 13s in a HB. Keep your reliability.
if you dont mind me asking, how much did you spend on your swap if you did it yourself?

Originally Posted by needmocheese
he had a whole engine swap to a prelude motor

correct me if im wrong beefycivic
yea i seen, but thats still not too much that he spent to pull the cobalt

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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by needmocheese
he had a whole engine swap to a prelude motor

correct me if im wrong beefycivic
Correct. It is a Prelude engine with a B-series LSD transmission

Originally Posted by Cobalttc05
if you dont mind me asking, how much did you spend on your swap if you did it yourself? yea i seen, but thats still not too much that he spent to pull the cobalt
Longblock was $600, trans was $800, H2B kit was $750, mounts and swap essentials, $500. Labor was on my end. My friends helped with some notching a minor fabrications. + some money for misc materials.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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damn thats not bad at all. A nice little project for me and my friends when we get bored
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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This is cool. This is a perfect example of how car racing should be. To nice cars racing no bs and mutal respect. Some of the kids on here should pay attention...lol Good Race gents!
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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i was thinking it would be more, i stand corrected!
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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lol do people toss them in CRV's? we just want to make a sleeper is all
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Noice!!!!
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalttc05
lol do people toss them in CRV's? we just want to make a sleeper is all
Well the older CRVs have B20s so you can work with those. People have done the VTEC conversions and turbos on those already. The newer CRVs have the K24s so those have potential as well.

Also people have done H22A turbo swaps on Honda Odyssey vans! There is a video somewhere of one beating the poo out of a track M3. I think it was the Stellar One Odyssey.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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i kinda want a CRV now....
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
Well the older CRVs have B20s so you can work with those. People have done the VTEC conversions and turbos on those already. The newer CRVs have the K24s so those have potential as well.

Also people have done H22A turbo swaps on Honda Odyssey vans! There is a video somewhere of a track Odyssey "racevan" beating the poo out of a track M3.
I've been wanting to get a Honda to work with as my 1st import project, but I don't know where to start. I don't know much about them. Any recommendations?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blackngold20
I've been wanting to get a Honda to work with as my 1st import project, but I don't know where to start. I don't know much about them. Any recommendations?
Depends on what you want to do. Drag or track?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
Depends on what you want to do. Drag or track?
Mainly Track
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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get a DA integra, or RSX-S, throw a turbo kit on it, tune wit k-pro and kick some ass
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blackngold20
Mainly Track
Originally Posted by BlackCobalt707
get a DA integra, or RSX-S, throw a turbo kit on it, tune wit k-pro and kick some ass
He wants a track car not a drag car. If you're going to build a track car focus only on suspension and brakes first until they are done. That is what I have done in the past. Then I would swap engines once I learned from the car and all of it's adjustments.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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oh **** my bad lol. repeating dudes question, what do you suggest is a good track car? and how much power do you think youre puttin down with that swap?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCobalt707
oh **** my bad lol. repeating dudes question, what do you suggest is a good track car? and how much power do you think youre puttin down with that swap?
88-00 Civic HBs are all great FWD track cars. Also any Integra sedan. They have a very rigid chassis while the HBs are just lighter. Prelude's are on the heavier side but those also can be very very fast on the track.

My Civic on the S300, made 209@163.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blackngold20
This is cool. This is a perfect example of how car racing should be. To nice cars racing no bs and mutal respect. Some of the kids on here should pay attention...lol Good Race gents!
Yep people should take a few lesson's from this thread.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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do a K20A swap!!!!!!
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
Yep people should take a few lesson's from this thread.
I'll agree, but this should also be posted on Honda enthusiast forums since on average they're no better than anyone else, there's always 1 or more (yes it's an expression ) in every crowd. I'd be willing to be 40% of replies to the thread would be "the Cobalt is a domestic it ******* sucks" or "see how it holds up in 200,000 miles"...read it all, seen it all...so it's not just this forum....the OP is an odd one out of the crowd and I respect him for his comments. I agree, any true enthusiast will have mutal respect for another vehicle win or lose. I just have a hard time dealing with arrogance and stupidity when it's unfounded and not required. This thread is the way ALL war stories should go, one car vs another, respect for the other vehicle and the winner is completely chill and has nothing but positive feedback on the vehicle; to them I give .
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