SVT Cobra Kill
Wake up and smell the coffee, magazine this magazine that. The numbers given for both the SRT-4 and SS vary more than the temperature. But then again 99% of the time I can just plain out drive the little High School punk ass driving it.
As for Mustangs, Sorry Blainestang but any 4.6 SOHC in stock form is pathetic and will get it's ass handed to it by a stock SS especially from a roll. From a dig traction is in the Mustangs favor so it might look bad for the SS for a couple seconds.
Now to the early 4.6 DOHC it wasn't fast in the solid axle 98 Cobra and is isn't fast in the IRS 99 Cobra. The one I played with got the fix in late 2000 which included a acid dripped intake upgrade and a full cat-back which was shipped complete and on a huge ass pallet from Ford.
I have nothing against Mustangs, I used to own one and I know how pathetic they really are. If you like them that is fine, people will always stick up for what ever they own. But then again I can still remember how I felt about my GT knowing a new Ultima/Maxima or SRT-4 would be a hard race for me. Add the SS/SC to that list and I don't miss my GT in the slightest way.
As for the other nasayers here post what you like I guess thats what happens when you compare people who traded in there 17 second car for there SS vs me who is used to 13 second LT1's and LS1's.
As for Mustangs, Sorry Blainestang but any 4.6 SOHC in stock form is pathetic and will get it's ass handed to it by a stock SS especially from a roll. From a dig traction is in the Mustangs favor so it might look bad for the SS for a couple seconds.
Now to the early 4.6 DOHC it wasn't fast in the solid axle 98 Cobra and is isn't fast in the IRS 99 Cobra. The one I played with got the fix in late 2000 which included a acid dripped intake upgrade and a full cat-back which was shipped complete and on a huge ass pallet from Ford.
I have nothing against Mustangs, I used to own one and I know how pathetic they really are. If you like them that is fine, people will always stick up for what ever they own. But then again I can still remember how I felt about my GT knowing a new Ultima/Maxima or SRT-4 would be a hard race for me. Add the SS/SC to that list and I don't miss my GT in the slightest way.
As for the other nasayers here post what you like I guess thats what happens when you compare people who traded in there 17 second car for there SS vs me who is used to 13 second LT1's and LS1's.
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I have nothing against Mustangs, I used to own one and I know how pathetic they really are. If you like them that is fine, people will always stick up for what ever they own. But then again I can still remember how I felt about my GT knowing a new Ultima/Maxima or SRT-4 would be a hard race for me. Add the SS/SC to that list and I don't miss my GT in the slightest way.
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does this hold true for the 2005 gt with 300hp and 320 tq? or will this car easily take most cars on the road?
I have nothing against Mustangs, I used to own one and I know how pathetic they really are. If you like them that is fine, people will always stick up for what ever they own. But then again I can still remember how I felt about my GT knowing a new Ultima/Maxima or SRT-4 would be a hard race for me. Add the SS/SC to that list and I don't miss my GT in the slightest way.
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does this hold true for the 2005 gt with 300hp and 320 tq? or will this car easily take most cars on the road?
I donmt care what you gusy say, I raced one from a roll a few times and was pulling everytime, however we shut er down pretty early. All stats aside you need to understand a lot of that comes down to the driver. With the SRT drivers around here, I carry no fear at all.
Originally Posted by codyss
As for Mustangs, Sorry Blainestang but any 4.6 SOHC in stock form is pathetic and will get it's ass handed to it by a stock SS especially from a roll. From a dig traction is in the Mustangs favor so it might look bad for the SS for a couple seconds.
Now to the early 4.6 DOHC it wasn't fast in the solid axle 98 Cobra and is isn't fast in the IRS 99 Cobra. The one I played with got the fix in late 2000 which included a acid dripped intake upgrade and a full cat-back which was shipped complete and on a huge ass pallet from Ford.
I have nothing against Mustangs, I used to own one and I know how pathetic they really are. If you like them that is fine, people will always stick up for what ever they own. But then again I can still remember how I felt about my GT knowing a new Ultima/Maxima or SRT-4 would be a hard race for me. Add the SS/SC to that list and I don't miss my GT in the slightest way.
Now to the early 4.6 DOHC it wasn't fast in the solid axle 98 Cobra and is isn't fast in the IRS 99 Cobra. The one I played with got the fix in late 2000 which included a acid dripped intake upgrade and a full cat-back which was shipped complete and on a huge ass pallet from Ford.
I have nothing against Mustangs, I used to own one and I know how pathetic they really are. If you like them that is fine, people will always stick up for what ever they own. But then again I can still remember how I felt about my GT knowing a new Ultima/Maxima or SRT-4 would be a hard race for me. Add the SS/SC to that list and I don't miss my GT in the slightest way.
Once again, the difference is, we both have personal confidence in our vehicles, but I do not rule out the possiblility of an SS/SC being right there with me, whereas YOU claim the SS/SC would SMOKE the GT. A true car enthusiast knows the facts and has an idea of what might happen, but lets the cars do the talking. Fact is, no quantitative FACTS have been shown that backs your suggestion that the SS/SC is faster from a roll, so it is ignorant to say that it is the case.
In addition to that, there are PLENTY of facts to say that the SS/SC will get WALKED by a DOHC 4.6. Could something crazy happen and it goes the other way? OF COURSE. But to say, without hesitation that they aren't that fast and that an SS/SC could hang with one is silly. I've seen the '99's trap at least 105mph in the 1/4. If you show me a stock SS/SC that traps anywhere near 105, I'll show you one racing downhill.
Nothing against the SS/SC, but it is no match for a DOHC 4.6, stock vs. stock, given near-equal drivers. The SS/SC could, on the other hand, be a driver's race with a GT from a roll, and to a lesser extent, a dig. There is a lot more racing to do before we really know the answer to this. However, we DO know enough already to know that the SS/SC will NOT "SMOKE" a 99+ manual GT from a roll. The cars are just far too close to call either one a CLEAR winner.
So, please, feel free to post up some facts on either subject. Until you do, however, I hope everyone will realize that your opinions are just that, OPINIONS.
I guess you are a good example of the common Mustang lover.
The other reason I sold my GT was due to the fact that there was the Mach1, Cobra and a handfull of dealer sold upgraded GT's (Saleen, Roush) that put the GT and Bullitt just above the V6.
The numbers you give are incorrect.
V6 < 4.6 SOHC & 98 DOHC < 99+ DOHC < Mach1 < Cobra R < Cobra S/C
Be realistic a stock 4.6 SOHC doesn't run 100mph plus in the 1/4. The a Mach1 with better gears, suspension and 40whp more runs 101-105mph.
Just deal with the fact that the 96-04 4.6 SOHC is a pathetic V8.
The other reason I sold my GT was due to the fact that there was the Mach1, Cobra and a handfull of dealer sold upgraded GT's (Saleen, Roush) that put the GT and Bullitt just above the V6.
The numbers you give are incorrect.
V6 < 4.6 SOHC & 98 DOHC < 99+ DOHC < Mach1 < Cobra R < Cobra S/C
Be realistic a stock 4.6 SOHC doesn't run 100mph plus in the 1/4. The a Mach1 with better gears, suspension and 40whp more runs 101-105mph.
Just deal with the fact that the 96-04 4.6 SOHC is a pathetic V8.
Originally Posted by codyss
Just deal with the fact that the 96-04 4.6 SOHC is a pathetic V8.
Originally Posted by codyss
Be realistic a stock 4.6 SOHC doesn't run 100mph plus in the 1/4.
In addition to that, my friend's GT went 99mph in nearly as bad weather. I am not claiming that all GT's go 100mph+, but some do. Fact is, while a couple SS/SC's have trapped 100, most of them don't get there either.
No matter how you spin it, SS/SC's and GT's trap similarly, and since traction at the launch (what the GT has that the SS doesn't) often means a lower trap than if you were spinning a little, it's NOT because the Mustang gets a better launch. Don't believe me. Go find someone who was spinning before and then puts on DR's or slicks.
Let me just point out to everyone else that, once again, CodySS provides NO REAL FACTS, just opinions and such based, as far as we know, on whatever just pops into his head at the time and fits into his theory that the SS/SC will "SMOKE A GT."
Originally Posted by sneaky
They might be not all that stock but a few minor bolt ons and/or F/I upgrade throws it in the 12's. That's pretty damn good considering all the Cobra motor really has is 16 more valves and stronger internals. It's basically a GT motor built to handle abuse on a DOHC design rather then SOHC, best of all it's still only a 4.6
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