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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:06 AM
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Who would win?

A friend of mine is having a debate over what would win a race.
His dream car is a 2009 Dodge Charger R/T Model, complete Stock.

Whereas mine is a 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI, complete Stock.

I say that despite both being AWD and the Charger having more HP/Torque, the STI is significantly lighter and will have a much quicker pull in a 1/4 mile stretch since he wont get nearly enough time to pick up speed. Also I should note that the R/T is Automatic 4Sp and the STI is, as always, Standard 6Sp.

Purely theoretical arguement, it's not like we have the $35,000+ to drop on this idea.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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from a stop and from a roll the sti will win. the charger weighs 4200 lbs
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:29 AM
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moved to war stories.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
moved to war stories.
I don't follow.
I know topics are fondly moved based on their content.
Yet this is not a "War Story" purely a question of competition...

*I recently checked several posts and all of them involve ACTUAL occurrences.
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*Facepalm*
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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thats because you guys are argueing who would win in a race. and not actually racing.

but maggie moo's ftw
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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sti hands down!
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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my bets on the STI fo sho!!

lol his dream car is a 09 charger RT? thats kinda a shitty dream car, no offence, a man with simple taste i guess.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:23 AM
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also, im pretty sure the charger isnt awd...
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:25 AM
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STi will win in the quarter mile. Or it should.. In theory. By 0.5+ seconds.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:32 AM
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My Dad's 300C(Non SRT8..just the 5.7 Hemi...same as an R/T) ran a 14.4 bone stock and that wasn't even the AWD one which I anticipate would actually be slower due to the excessive drive-train loss. I mean the car weighs as much as the average oil tanker so it has no problem hooking up...traction is a no issue. Those new STIs are nasty though...seen a few at the local track hit about 13.4 stock. EASY STI win...in ALL scenarios. However, if it was an SRT8...it would be a drivers race.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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^ If it's not from a dig... The srt-8 will **** on the STi. Bad.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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108 trap speed is no joke. chris do you think you could hit 108 trap speed with tuned meth and 120 lbs weight reduction?
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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^ That's a good question.. I'd need full cooling mods w/ meth and 108 is definitely do-able.. Probably higher with 60's and a smaller pulley.. My car responds really well (top end wise) to slightly smaller pullies.. But I can't go smaller right now considering my injectors duty cycle is already at 118% at WOT in 3rd/4th gear.. Haha..
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ChriSS/SC
^ That's a good question.. I'd need full cooling mods w/ meth and 108 is definitely do-able.. Probably higher with 60's and a smaller pulley.. My car responds really well (top end wise) to slightly smaller pullies.. But I can't go smaller right now considering my injectors duty cycle is already at 118% at WOT in 3rd/4th gear.. Haha..
thats the problem with starting a build with stage 2. i just gutted my ss/sc took out about 130 lbs, so im guessing with the mods in my sig it would trap at 101 maybe 102. im gonna get ottp stage 1 with a meth injection and an aggresive street tune and hopefully ill see 108+ maybe a 109 110 if the guy tuning is as good as i hear he is
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by revolution607@yahoo.
also, im pretty sure the charger isnt awd...
Unless the brand new 09's are, I didnt think they were either.

Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
My Dad's 300C(Non SRT8..just the 5.7 Hemi...same as an R/T) ran a 14.4 bone stock and that wasn't even the AWD one which I anticipate would actually be slower due to the excessive drive-train loss. I mean the car weighs as much as the average oil tanker so it has no problem hooking up...traction is a no issue. Those new STIs are nasty though...seen a few at the local track hit about 13.4 stock. EASY STI win...in ALL scenarios. However, if it was an SRT8...it would be a drivers race.
I actually believe the older STi's, like 05-08 or so were a tad bit faster than the new ones. And the base WRX is just about on par with the new STi, I think the STi ran the 1/4 mile in 13.5 and the WRX ran it in 13.6 I believe.

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa the charger is rear wheel drive. The r/t is not specific to being AWD, but it can be ordered (i have seen it on the roads.. unless they took the time to put AWD in badge letters)..

Why would he dream of having the R/T?

STI would probably take this.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:38 AM
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definitely the sti,
unless you upgrade that beast to an srt8 charger, then it's a different story STOCK

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yeah why not dream about the srt8 lol
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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^^Pretty much exactly what I was gonna say

STI will walk the crap out of a stock r/t. SRT8 would be a wayyyyy better race.

And no offense to your bud but his DREAM car is a Charger R/T? Kid needs to dream bigger haha
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ishbar
A friend of mine is having a debate over what would win a race.
His dream car is a 2009 Dodge Charger R/T Model, complete Stock.

Whereas mine is a 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX STI, complete Stock.

I say that despite both being AWD and the Charger having more HP/Torque, the STI is significantly lighter and will have a much quicker pull in a 1/4 mile stretch since he wont get nearly enough time to pick up speed. Also I should note that the R/T is Automatic 4Sp and the STI is, as always, Standard 6Sp.

Purely theoretical arguement, it's not like we have the $35,000+ to drop on this idea.
i would.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Sti!!!!
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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His dream car is a Challenger?


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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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STi for sure
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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i had a dodge charger r/t 06... i got KILLED by a STI that was stock from a roll and from a dig and my charger was not stock
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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lets put it this way. my MS3 murders my buddies Magnum R/T. so im sure an STi would kill a Charger.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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subbyyy should take it nice car bro
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