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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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yea doc lol ....haha nice were those 225/30's or 225/35s
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc
bling, bling.....



I still ran 13.4 with these....
haterz..!! lol
And to think you could have bragged about 13.1's...
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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pics bump

any videos of this beast in action?
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ford
And to think you could have bragged about 13.1's...
Who needs to brag about 13's when I did 12.9 without them...
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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See thats the kind of information people need. Your original I can run 13.4 on them makes people think they wont be slower, when in fact you lost half a second being on 20's.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ford
See thats the kind of information people need. Your original I can run 13.4 on them makes people think they wont be slower, when in fact you lost half a second being on 20's.
That's exactly what I was thinking!
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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while ur torque stays the same, the driving force pushing the car forward is decreased as wheel diameter increases. Therefore the car accelerates slower.

F1 cars are the highest peformance 4-wheeled vehicles on earth and they run 13in wheels.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ford
See thats the kind of information people need. Your original I can run 13.4 on them makes people think they wont be slower, when in fact you lost half a second being on 20's.
Originally Posted by Bumpin Balt
That's exactly what I was thinking!
Yes, they are a heavier wheel/tire combo and take a bit more energy to get going. Beating a SRT-10 truck was worth running the 20's.....made the truck owner think twice about talking ****.

Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
while ur torque stays the same, the driving force pushing the car forward is decreased as wheel diameter increases. Therefore the car accelerates slower.

F1 cars are the highest peformance 4-wheeled vehicles on earth and they run 13in wheels.
your logic is flawed since you don't take the tire into account....
here is the difference with the tires

from the online tire size calculator

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Doc
Yes, they are a heavier wheel/tire combo and take a bit more energy to get going. Beating a SRT-10 truck was worth running the 20's.....made the truck owner think twice about talking ****.



your logic is flawed since you don't take the tire into account....
here is the difference with the tires

from the online tire size calculator

actually that confirms my logic. the 20" will be 2.3% slower than the 18.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cobaltss76
so u think 12.32 at 118 isnt fast for a car on regular street tires ???...plz not this car is a 2007 2.4...zzp has a car running 11.80's on slicks ..if i put slicks i would run that ..so i think for a 2.4 thats not bad at all haha..but thats just me
If you're talking about Ryan's Twincharged, he's faster than that now. He's down to like 11.1 / 11.2


20's aren't "R.I.C.E." if you do it right, those rims look HOTT! RICE would be BLING BLING Chrome spinners.
Now, I don't like rims with the lip on them cause it actually makes the rim look smaller. But going 20 with them, they'd actually look good. I'm at work so I can't see any pics except the rim itself lol.

Good choice on wheels and for $800 shipped, you got a deal!
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:21 AM
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so the consesus here is that 20s are acceptable for racing....

I'm in the wrroooongg place.

unsprung mass, rotational inertia, higher CG (go ahead lower it, see what that does to ur roll center), lower driving force for given torque so lower acceleration (2.3% per ur calculator).

I've done all i can here.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
so the consesus here is that 20s are acceptable for racing....

I'm in the wrroooongg place.

unsprung mass, rotational inertia, higher CG (go ahead lower it, see what that does to ur roll center), lower driving force for given torque so lower acceleration (2.3% per ur calculator).

I've done all i can here.
So considering the fact that Dirty tests and designs tires for a living, I have a feeling that he probably out ranks most of you, when it comes to knowledge of this entire issue.

Dirty wins. Anyone who assumes racing on 20s is intelligent, has confirmed the exact opposite about them selves.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 06G85
If you're talking about Ryan's Twincharged, he's faster than that now. He's down to like 11.1 / 11.2


20's aren't "R.I.C.E." if you do it right, those rims look HOTT! RICE would be BLING BLING Chrome spinners.
Now, I don't like rims with the lip on them cause it actually makes the rim look smaller. But going 20 with them, they'd actually look good. I'm at work so I can't see any pics except the rim itself lol.

Good choice on wheels and for $800 shipped, you got a deal!


actually i believe he mad a 11.09 pass but yea that who im talking about that bitch is sickk....but 20's arent for racing im here to say it right now.. i bought them to just cruise with a big rim thats all ...

Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
so the consesus here is that 20s are acceptable for racing....

I'm in the wrroooongg place.

unsprung mass, rotational inertia, higher CG (go ahead lower it, see what that does to ur roll center), lower driving force for given torque so lower acceleration (2.3% per ur calculator).

I've done all i can here.


hey u want to trade that 03 evo ???? ill trade u my car with the big boi motor and the stock motor come with it..let me know if u want to think abt it depends what shes got i might add money!!!

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cobaltss76
hey u want to trade that 03 evo ???? ill trade u my car with the big boi motor and the stock motor come with it..let me know if u want to think abt it depends what shes got i might add money!!!
I think he traded his WRX + 10k for that EVO. That thing is a monster...

And as long as you're not racing on 20s. You should definitely listen to Dirty when it comes to anything wheel/tire related. Considering it's what he does day in and day out. Even though he doesn't have a Cobalt, he still knows his ****.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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The Evo is set up for Street-Class Redline Time Attack and is basically at the maximum of what ur allowed to do in SM class AutoX.

All my cars are always for sale for the right price.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
actually that confirms my logic. the 20" will be 2.3% slower than the 18.
Oh wow, i found intelligence in this thread!

Im not going to touch the rice comment about those wheels, ill just say its not my cup of tea.

Hell i push it with my current wheels on a much bigger car. But i also just DD on the TSW's and dont bother with racing on them.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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SO ITS STREET LEAGUL RIGHT ??...WHAT U WANT FOR IT INTERESTED IN TRADE FOR MY BALT AND CASH...WHATS DONE TO IT ???
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/war-stories-54/05-ss-sc-vs-493awhp-evo-8-a-210862/

His EVO with stats.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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hmmm dirty what u want for it
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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what is street legal?

exhaust isn't, cats aren't, springs aren't, swaybars aren't battery isn't, injectors aren't, can't pass emissions (actually it probably could, i'm just banking on not needing to), no airbags, no seat belts, no back seat. etc.....lots of etc..

technically most modded cars arent street legal cuz none of the parts are DOT approved.


I want $25k in cash or equivalents for the Evo.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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I can't wait to see the response lol
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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lol i got the people to pass inspection... ..25k hmmm... how many miles on the car...and on performance parts

wait time out u dont have no seatbelts

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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well i guess i do have them, just not installed.

like 65k on the car

3k on the motor/tranny/turbo
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty25RS
20s are R.I.C.E. if you intend on driving the car at all.

They ruin the vehicle dynamics and look stupid.

I'd vote best in show to the cobalt with 14s over the one with 20s.
Camaro SS has 21's

As does the ZR1

Just saying...
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ls1fbody
Camaro SS has 21's

As does the ZR1

Just saying...
yes and those cars are designed to look good and make you make an emotional purchase. not designed for racing.

F1 cars are designed to race, indycars are designed to race, WRC cars are designed to race.

cars you buy at a dealership aren't (unless they have 'XX' or "GT3 RS-R" in their name)

I bet you both those cars come with the front wheels toe'd in 1/16" clear sign of a street car.
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