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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 01:38 AM
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It's simple, if the wheels aren't hub centric like the stock wheels are then it needs hub centric rings to compensate. Most aftermarket wheels are like this, because they need to be able to fit on different types of cars. If the tire shops said that the tires and wheels are smoothe on the balancer, then they're most likely fine.......unless the technicians were morons.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 01:46 AM
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how many times do i have to say this....... RAIL NOGAROS ARE HUB CENTRIC AND DOSNT NEED HUB CENTRIC RINGS............ this is not causing his problems!
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 02:00 AM
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Sweet pics , hopefully they get the vibe issue solved for ya . Its probabaly gonna end up being a balance issue . The Nogaro's have to best wheel for the money out the there , they look sooo good on a SS . To bad there so heavy , well ...as heavy as the stock wheel anyways .
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:07 AM
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how many times do i have to say this....... RAIL NOGAROS ARE HUB CENTRIC AND DOSNT NEED HUB CENTRIC RINGS............ this is not causing his problems!
He said there were rings and that they were cracked. If they were hub centric then there would be no rings at all because there would be no possible room for them to fit.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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maveric, i have nogaros, and there isnt any room for them to fit, thats why they cracked when he put them on.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by saunders1986
maveric, i have nogaros, and there isnt any room for them to fit, thats why they cracked when he put them on.
LMAO, the guys who gave him the rings must be complete morons then.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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something about hub centric rings???








haha jk(saunders)
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Well, if the rings cracked because they don't fit what else could the problem be? I have had three shops balance and inspect the wheels and tires and they say there are no defects in them. When I rotate the tires front to back as well the steering wheel still shakes at 70mphs. I doubt that all 4 tires are defective. Any one have any ideas?
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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its either something broken on the car (but u say its fine with stock wheels) or a bent wheel (u said u had them checked) or a fucked up tire (but u again say they are fine) these wheels dont need hub rings, and they should NOT be installed.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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get the tires that are on the stock wheels, and put them on the rial's. this should determin if its the wheels or the tires. i would not be surprised if its the tires, as from my time spent in the tire industry, goodyears are garbage. they all probably have heavy spots that are not visible to the eye, and no amount of balancing will get rid of.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by supa_chgd_07
get the tires that are on the stock wheels, and put them on the rial's. this should determin if its the wheels or the tires. i would not be surprised if its the tires, as from my time spent in the tire industry, goodyears are garbage. they all probably have heavy spots that are not visible to the eye, and no amount of balancing will get rid of.
If they have heavy spots on the tire, then it will be discovered by the wheel balancer.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by maverick0716
If they have heavy spots on the tire, then it will be discovered by the wheel balancer.
it depends on how competant the guy thats balancing it is. if he doesnt know what he is looking for, he cant find it. i have been doing tires for a couple years and have worked with alot of idiots that only know how to mount a tire on the balancer and put the weights on where the machine telss them. it isnt always that simple, and i doubt that i am the only one lucky enough to work with people that dont know what they are doing.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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high speed balance and maybe alignment
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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high speed balance and maybe alignment
it doesnt do it on the stock wheels, so it wouldnt be alignment
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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I am going to put the stock wheels back on again and see if I notice anything. I already did this once but I am going to check again. Next, I will put the stock tires on the nogaros and see if there is still a problem. Will the 215/45/18s fit an 18x8 wheel? I think it is the goodyear tires. I will keep you all updated. Also, I am not going to bother with the hub rings.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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215/45/18 will fit the wheel but u'll be stretching the tire..... can be unsafe, watch urself...... i'm starting to believe the tires has flat spots, do u know if they were sitting around for awile before they were sold?
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by saunders1986
215/45/18 will fit the wheel but u'll be stretching the tire..... can be unsafe, watch urself...... i'm starting to believe the tires has flat spots, do u know if they were sitting around for awile before they were sold?
I am not sure if they were sitting around for a while. I purchased them from Tirerack.com.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS118
I am going to put the stock wheels back on again and see if I notice anything. I already did this once but I am going to check again. Next, I will put the stock tires on the nogaros and see if there is still a problem. Will the 215/45/18s fit an 18x8 wheel? I think it is the goodyear tires. I will keep you all updated. Also, I am not going to bother with the hub rings.
i put the stock tires on the nogaro's... it CAN be done however... i do not recommend it. 225 is what fits the wheel best. if whoever is putting the tire on isnt careful, they can **** up your wheel trying to get the 215s to stretch.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by idunn
i put the stock tires on the nogaro's... it CAN be done however... i do not recommend it. 225 is what fits the wheel best. if whoever is putting the tire on isnt careful, they can **** up your wheel trying to get the 215s to stretch.
if the guy putting them on ***** them up, its got absolutely nothing to to with them being a 215. the width of a tire really has no affect on the difficulty of mounting the tire on the rim(within reason of course) the little difference between a 215 and a 225 wont matter. a skinnier tire wont even be difficult to get on the rim, but it might take work to air it up and get the beads seated properly. trying to mount a wider tire though(like a 275) would be more difficult to get the beads on the wheel.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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I don't think I am going to bother with putting the stock tires on the nogaros. I don't want a shop to mess up my wheels. I am going to try putting the stock set up back on and test things out once more. Then if there is no problem, I will insist it is a tire problem and will get them replaced. If the goodyear shop won't do it I think tirerack.com will.

BTW, thanks for everyone's help. I hope I solve this problem soon.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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I wish I could balance them for you......then they'd be done properly, lol.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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IT WAS THE TIRES! 3 out of 4 were bad after a road force test. It took forever to find a road force test machine around here. I am going through tire rack to get 3 of the tires replaced. The local goodyear dealer won't replace them for me because they don't have a road force machine and can't detect the problem. Well, slowly things are coming together. I wonder if the tires were just sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Thanks everyone for the help.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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welcome to the Nogaro club man!
lol dido!
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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told ya
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltSS118
IT WAS THE TIRES! 3 out of 4 were bad after a road force test. It took forever to find a road force test machine around here. I am going through tire rack to get 3 of the tires replaced. The local goodyear dealer won't replace them for me because they don't have a road force machine and can't detect the problem. Well, slowly things are coming together. I wonder if the tires were just sitting in a warehouse for a long time. Thanks everyone for the help.
****** goodyears...
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