my bone stock 08 ss t/c had its first passes at the track. the best run i made was a 14.697 at 99.58 mph. i was a little mad because its says it can run a 14.0 but i had traction problems cuz the track wasn't prepped properly. and i was a little nicer on it shifting through the gears. if i was to run again on a good track i bet it could run a 14.2, all in all i was pretty happy i one all my races. and btw there have been people that think launch controll dosent work as well a launching ur self well ur wronghttp://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg191/Darkfuzion24/stuff001.jpghttp://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg191/Darkfuzion24/stuff002.jpg

nj i guess

60ft post a slip plz

didnt hahn run something in the low thirteens on a stock t/c?

I ran a 14.27 in my stock TC

didnt hahn run something in the low thirteens on a stock t/c?

yes but they had a tune.. not stock

Im wondering if people will actually start to see how the tc's top end and ss/sc's top end have a dramatic difference once stage 2 is installed....

The tc will be a monster i cant wait to run one in the near future with my future setup in my ek hatch....

i believe the hahn ss/tc ran like a 13.8 or .9

ur 60ft is bad same as my lol

my ss/sc ran stock

60ft 2.4
14.90@98

hahn ran 13.20's all night sweet suzy woo hoo

hahn ran 13.20's all night sweet suzy woo hoo


we know and that was with a tune and cat back not stock

this guy is bone stock

hahn ran 13.20's all night sweet suzy woo hoo

was that with just the tune?

and 290whp

Modifications:
• Hahn RaceCraft 3” SS CatBack Exhaust
• Hahn/BSR PPC Tuner
Weight with driver: 3165 lbs.
Boost Level: 21-23 PSI
Fuel: Shell 93 Octane




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that is some crazy shit

my bone stock 08 ss t/c had its first passes at the track. the best run i made was a 14.697 at 99.58 mph. i was a little mad because its says it can run a 14.0 but i had traction problems cuz the track wasn't prepped properly. and i was a little nicer on it shifting through the gears. if i was to run again on a good track i bet it could run a 14.2, all in all i was pretty happy i one all my races. and btw there have been people that think launch controll dosent work as well a launching ur self well ur wrong

so ur saying that launching control works?

2.4 60ft :nono:

that is some crazy shit

with a 104 trap on 21-22psi...:bye:

so ur saying that launching control works?

2.4 60ft :nono:

Hahah i was thinking the same thing . People have 60 footed much better with SS/SC's than 2.4 without it.

and btw there have been people that think launch controll dosent work as well a launching ur self well ur wrong

That's because you don't know how to drive it properly.

Yep....must be driver error brcause I usually have a 60 ft of 2.30 and get through the 1/4 mile in 14.64 at 100-102mph and my SS/SC is stock. After some more practice and getting used to your car I am sure it will drop down some more....

and this is in the wrong section. Put it in the drag section.

but that's sounds about what an average joe would run in a ss/tc. Doesn't surprise me at all.

and hahn's car was far from stock.

and this is in the wrong section. Put it in the drag section.

but that's sounds about what an average joe would run in a ss/tc. Doesn't surprise me at all.

and hahn's car was far from stock.

Tune and cat back is not far from stock...:p:

lol 22 psi is far from stock my friend... it was a boost controller, exhaust, and a tune... That tune wasnt just a 200-300 tune.. Go look it up its gonna cost the average joe for just that tune 1000 dollars or even more

lol 22 psi is far from stock my friend... it was a boost controller, exhaust, and a tune... That tune wasnt just a 200-300 tune.. Go look it up its gonna cost the average joe for just that tune 1000 dollars or even more

Yeah the tune is expensive, I never knew price made things from going from 2 mods to hellaciously modded...and turns the boost up to 21-23 lbs.

No MBC.

Tune and cat-back is a tune and a cat-back whether it costs 32098432 dollars or roughly 1600

Yeah, this guy needs some driving lessons and/or a better track.

Yeah the tune is expensive, I never knew price made things from going from 2 mods to hellaciously modded...and turns the boost up to 21-23 lbs.

No MBC.

Tune and cat-back is a tune and a cat-back whether it costs 32098432 dollars or roughly 1600

22+psi is not stock. Gaining any control over this car's ecu is leaving stock grounds.

If he's not far from stock, then neither am I.

At least I'm still on the stock pulley, stock boost, stock intake, stock exhaust.

and 290whp

Modifications:
• Hahn RaceCraft 3” SS CatBack Exhaust
• Hahn/BSR PPC Tuner
Weight with driver: 3165 lbs.
Boost Level: 21-23 PSI
Fuel: Shell 93 Octane




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not taking anything away from the tc. 290 whp ,come on how much whp would the ss/sc make if it had a tune and 21 to 23 lbs of boost and 3'' exhaust,i think the ss/sc would make at least the same whp. what do you guys think?

not taking anything away from the tc. 290 whp ,come on how much whp would the ss/sc make if it had a tune and 21 to 23 lbs of boost and 3'' exhaust,i think the ss/sc would make at least the same whp. what do you guys think?

thats not the point, do you know how much money it takes to get a blown ss to run well on that much boost?

Yeah the tune is expensive, I never knew price made things from going from 2 mods to hellaciously modded...and turns the boost up to 21-23 lbs.

No MBC.

Tune and cat-back is a tune and a cat-back whether it costs 32098432 dollars or roughly 1600


tune and a catback on this car, can be pretty heavily modded.
put it this way....21-23psi, is more boost than a 2.5 pully on an ss/sc
so, i guess im runnin less than a tune and a catback :)

cooling mods,60s, tune might still be cheaper than that 1000.00 tune.

cooling mods,60s, tune might still be cheaper than that 1000.00 tune.

right because they has gotten TONS of people to run low 13's here

hahns driving is not a good indicator stu.

i garuntee you most of the people who get that tune + catback would be high 13s all day.

hahns driving is not a good indicator stu.

i garuntee you most of the people who get that tune + catback would be high 13s all day.

good point.

hahns driving is not a good indicator stu.

i garuntee you most of the people who get that tune + catback would be high 13s all day.

if that. LOL. Probably still spin to much and run 14.0's, haha.:lol:

hahns driving is not a good indicator stu.

i garuntee you most of the people who get that tune + catback would be high 13s all day.

im with you too... i think I would be in mid 13's with the tune... i have been having decent launches lately and i think running a 14.27 with 2 passengers thats pretty good... what they say every 100lbs is a 1/10 of a second?

tune and a catback on this car, can be pretty heavily modded.
put it this way....21-23psi, is more boost than a 2.5 pully on an ss/sc
so, i guess im runnin less than a tune and a catback :)

Apples to oranges though.

You are running(correct me if I am wrong now):

Larger injectors

Smaller pulley

Catback

Tune


Ultimately boost is not the sole measuring factor of horsepower.

Take an SS/TC up to your altitude and I bet it will make more boost...because the ECM says so. Some people are boosting 20psi stock, and others are boosting 15-15.5

Really we don't know what the BSR tune is doing to...besides turning boost up and raising the rev limit in first and second.

larger injectors
smaller pully
tune

= tune on LNF.

larger injectors
smaller pully
tune

= tune on LNF.

I see how you are looking at it, but to me a tune is a tune.

I mean there is a mod where you cut the wastegate arm to get more boost too.

talking about boost; is there any way to get more boost or get it to come in sooner on the ss/sc?

talking about boost; is there any way to get more boost or get it to come in sooner on the ss/sc?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Is this a serious question?

If so... a smaller Supercharger Pulley will do that for you.

Not bad times.. get more accustomed to the car and go run it again :)

sorry i was trying to say could it be done with out a pulley swap. i heard {dont know what it is called} the black round thing on the supercharger, that you could adjust that to get your boost to come in sooner. sorry i sound like a dumb ass . i never had a supercharged car before. i would guess that would be somekind of blow off valve?

No... don't fuck with that.

Pulley is basically the easiest way.

work on that 60ft and reaction time

No... don't fuck with that.

Pulley is basically the easiest way.

what is it and what does it do ?

its called a boost bypass dont fuck with it because yes it will fuck your car up.. it will make you boost more but say a few times of boosting something will break...Its not good for your engine and just isnt safe... a pulley swap is cheap as hell and especially a stage kit is even safer than everything so forth just save and do it the right way so you dont blow shit up

hey thanks' i dont want to fuck it up. i was told you could do it .right now i have the gm stage 2,injen cai, gmpp sport catback. i have a 2.79 pulley but i was waiting on a cx racing intercooler , after that im going to get tuned.but what is the diffrence between the pulley boost or adjusting the bypass valve?

Pulley spins the S/C faster or slower.

Bypass Valve opens and closes a butterfly in response to Throttle Position.

Im not really sure since i really never spent the time looking into it, but one thing i do know is that the boost bypass is not safe at all... The pulley is the best option with a good tune and good injectors... Honestly bro ive heard alot about the 2.79 being way to small for the gm stage 2 but thats your choice if it was me i would throw 60lbers on there and then get a tune and keep that 2.79 on there that way your injectors dont go static or past 100% duty cycle with the 60's you wont ever go static... This actually happened to my friend had a 2.8 and stage 2 and blew his shit up racing a mustang gt beat the mustang but then boom piston 1 and 3 and 3500 dollars later for a new engine....

neway good luck

Yea depends on how reliable you want the car to be my ss s/c ran a 14.6 stock at the track out here in cali when LACR was still around..that isn't adjusted for the altitude above sea level. but with driver mod and an cai u should be able to drop ur times easily.

thanks i dont have the pulley on there yet. i was going to wait until i get some cooling mods first , and then get it installed when i get it tuned i hope i dont need 60s but if i do i guess ill have to get them.

hahns driving is not a good indicator stu.

i garuntee you most of the people who get that tune + catback would be high 13s all day.

And a good handful will still not get outa the 14's :lol:

im just not impressed at all about this car... It was hyped up alot i mean yes its a better car but just doesnt impress me

thanks i dont have the pulley on there yet. i was going to wait until i get some cooling mods first , and then get it installed when i get it tuned i hope i dont need 60s but if i do i guess ill have to get them.

I've been running Stg2 Injectors and a 2.79 pulley for 2 years now. I go WOT ALL the time. I haven't had one problem.

I've been running Stg2 Injectors and a 2.79 pulley for 2 years now. I go WOT ALL the time. I haven't had one problem.

really , what other mods do you have done? did the 2.79 pulley make a good difference in power:)?

Yeah... it did.

As it sits right now:

Fujita CAI, Stg2 Injectors, 2.79" Pulley, GMPP Header, ZZP Catless DP, GMPP Performance Cat-Back, Wicked Tuned. Plus traction mods and a few other things.

Yea depends on how reliable you want the car to be my ss s/c ran a 14.6 stock at the track out here in cali when LACR was still around..that isn't adjusted for the altitude above sea level. but with driver mod and an cai u should be able to drop ur times easily.

do you have a time slip?

ya know thats 2200ft alt and usually always a head wind... i had to muscle out a 14.60 with intake and catback and i live in lancaster so i was pretty used to the track and a weekend racer and i have been racing there for 8yrs with my 500hp firebird, so please dont just say "im a better driver"


what was the temps was it hot or cold summer winter spring or fall? just wondering? that altitude alone adds .5 of a second so your kinda saying you would of ran a 14.0 in a stock cobalt on a unprepped track... you must be as good as hahn's driver, or better :lol:

i was consitantly beating a turbo infinity g35, thats how shitty lacr weather and track was... he was running mid 15's all night

and if so well then congrats to you... http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Respect/king-033.gif

i wouldnt doubt it people with stock cobalts have ran 14.1s all stock no mods goes to show it is possible

yeah i checked the official 1/4 mile thread and it seems ther are 5 or so people that have run that, go's to show what a prepped track and sea level cond can do!

i was not aware people were running those times bone stock! but i am now... i cant wait to bring the cobalt to somewere sea level with the DR's can we say low 12's

Yea depends on how reliable you want the car to be my ss s/c ran a 14.6 stock at the track out here in cali when LACR was still around..that isn't adjusted for the altitude above sea level. but with driver mod and an cai u should be able to drop ur times easily.

where do you buy these driver mods? dumbest term of all time

agreed...:thumbsdow how lame, it was funny at first now its blown out...

agreed...:thumbsdow how lame, it was funny at first now its blown out...

it really is. is it really that hard to say "he is a good driver" or "he needs to practice"

it honestly makes me angry most the time i hear it because it is so fucking stupid

60' is killing ya