rockstar014
09-18-2008, 09:37 PM
sooooo is this zzp kit suppose to be good or what?
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View Full Version : zzp turbo kit for the 2.4 rockstar014 09-18-2008, 09:37 PM sooooo is this zzp kit suppose to be good or what? wollis1 09-18-2008, 10:05 PM ^^^x2 bulls'ss 09-18-2008, 10:55 PM have they released the kit yet? Zdeuce4 09-18-2008, 11:09 PM i just saw it on the site... all that and supposed to be less than hahns kit..sounds like it could be good. Black07SS 09-18-2008, 11:16 PM i wanna see official prices and dynos:cssNET: wollis1 09-18-2008, 11:25 PM i just went to the website....theyre still looking for a guinea pig for the 2.4 bulls'ss 09-19-2008, 01:16 AM hmm i think i might call them and find out the price and release date CptTheAlex 09-20-2008, 10:21 AM I think they are located in Michigan aren't they? If so i'll be their huckleberry. nikebaseballx00 09-20-2008, 11:05 AM i could be theirs for a 2.2 its gotta be the same except for tuning Cloudio 09-23-2008, 04:53 PM ill be purchasing right away if it works for us autos :twothumbs nikebaseballx00 09-23-2008, 07:10 PM ill be purchasing right away if it works for us autos :twothumbs fa sho im gettin dat fa sho, if it will work for a 2.2 auto they say they custom tune it so i dont see why it wouldnt work Cloudio 09-23-2008, 10:06 PM Any ideas when this will be available to purchase?? rockstar014 09-24-2008, 02:19 PM it will work on autos theres a lot of auto turbos lol the hahn turbo can work on an auto lol glen229 09-24-2008, 02:23 PM good luck tuning a turbo 2.2 lol mike still hasnt got his tune (2years later) nikebaseballx00 09-24-2008, 03:16 PM good luck tuning a turbo 2.2 lol mike still hasnt got his tune (2years later) ls2edit........ works wonders from what they say rockstar014 09-24-2008, 03:20 PM hmmm tuning a 2.2 must be hard huh?? nikebaseballx00 09-24-2008, 03:25 PM hmmm tuning a 2.2 must be hard huh?? i personally dont know but there are a lot of tuned 2.2s rockstar014 09-24-2008, 03:32 PM yea there is it shouldnt be hard to get a tune Cloudio 10-15-2008, 01:08 PM any updates on this ?? seems like zzp only cares about there twin charge kit for 2.0l right now :( rockstar014 10-15-2008, 01:53 PM yea i know its pissing me off lol we need that turbo kit lol im wanting it HunterKiller89 10-15-2008, 07:06 PM ...i dont even see what u guys are talking about on their site.. Sentry 10-16-2008, 04:11 AM I emailed the guys at ZZP and basically they just told me that they aren't planning on ever doing anything for us 2.2's. Really sucks, but just do your own thing and get trifecta tuned. rockstar014 10-16-2008, 01:01 PM haha that sucks they was... planning on getting us the turbo kit from them well us 2.4 HunterKiller89 10-16-2008, 05:59 PM just get a 2.4 turbo kit then and its the same deal...youll just need a different tune..no biggie. back to my original question...can someone link me to this turbo kit? im not seeing it on their website wollis1 10-16-2008, 07:57 PM heres the link to the twincharge kit: http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=871&catid=143 at the bottom under FAQ 8 it mentions the 2.4 and the turbo kit :cssNET: Zdeuce4 10-17-2008, 05:45 PM UPDATE!!! I emailed them.. u guys gotta learn to ask the right questions when u do that btw... but, they said they are still working on it and the price is 3k INSTALLED and DYNO TUNED!!! they need someone in the area to test fit first. I also sent a message asking wut the price is for those that aren't in the area, and am waiting on that response. Sentry 10-17-2008, 10:03 PM UPDATE!!! I emailed them.. u guys gotta learn to ask the right questions when u do that btw... but, they said they are still working on it and the price is 3k INSTALLED and DYNO TUNED!!! they need someone in the area to test fit first. I also sent a message asking wut the price is for those that aren't in the area, and am waiting on that response. So wait, you talking about a kit for the 2.2 or 2.4? Zdeuce4 10-18-2008, 12:56 AM the title of the thread is zzp turbo kit for the 2.4 where did 2.2s come from? rockstar014 10-20-2008, 01:16 AM lol yea the 2.4L does HunterKiller89 10-20-2008, 05:16 AM the title of the thread is zzp turbo kit for the 2.4 where did 2.2s come from? as far as the way parts bolt up, the two cars are identical...anything that bolts on to a 2.4 should bolt on to a 2.2, including turbo kits and blower kits, therefore a lot of the 2.2 guys will be following 2.4 mods Zooomer 10-20-2008, 04:33 PM http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=922 Cloudio 10-20-2008, 04:56 PM http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=922 any idea when a shipped version will be available for us distant customers ?>??? nikebaseballx00 10-20-2008, 05:17 PM i just emailed them about the 2.2s and told them i may be able to be a test car because if they dyno tune, there shouldnt be a difference, they custom tune to each car so why would a 2.2 be different than a 2.4? INDColtsFan18 10-20-2008, 05:20 PM I am in Michigan and I'd loove to be the test car nikebaseballx00 10-20-2008, 05:49 PM I am in Michigan and I'd loove to be the test car haha im gunna beat u too it, usually a test car gets the product for dirt cheap, or they may not even charge me but i risk the fact of my car blowing up, but hey its no different than running any turbo set up as long as its tuned right they emailed me back and they only offer HP Tuners, so i sent them a link to the LS2edit software INDColtsFan18 10-20-2008, 07:56 PM haha im gunna beat u too it, usually a test car gets the product for dirt cheap, or they may not even charge me but i risk the fact of my car blowing up, but hey its no different than running any turbo set up as long as its tuned right they emailed me back and they only offer HP Tuners, so i sent them a link to the LS2edit software Im actually a 2.4L SS though, thats what the kit was supposed to be for. Plus I can be tuned cause im an 07. nikebaseballx00 10-20-2008, 08:20 PM o well ur lucky Zdeuce4 10-20-2008, 08:41 PM 2k with 1k for install!!!! omg please let the price for those who want it shipped be 2k plus shipping... i will order this with my income tax check!!! nikebaseballx00 10-20-2008, 08:57 PM i asked them if i could pick up the kit and have it installed without a tune, so that would be like 2500 maybe, then a tune from a local member with ls2edit and im in =] wollis1 10-20-2008, 09:06 PM where is zzp located exactly anyways? i live just outside of detroit. and i was looking into a kit and i think hahn needs a little competition ;) nikebaseballx00 10-20-2008, 09:12 PM where is zzp located exactly anyways? i live just outside of detroit. and i was looking into a kit and i think hahn needs a little competition ;) Wyoming, Michigan its by grand rapids its actually 2 hours from me, which still isnt bad INDColtsFan18 10-20-2008, 09:22 PM Wyoming, Michigan its by grand rapids its actually 2 hours from me, which still isnt bad Yeah I live about an hour from them, my car is about 1.5hours from them back at home. rockstar014 10-20-2008, 09:27 PM i think im really wanting to buy this lol wollis1 10-20-2008, 09:34 PM wow ok, so its only like a 2.5 hour drive for me. awesome! im not gettin into it tho til i see some solid results Sentry 10-21-2008, 03:31 AM If you guys release this in a kit, I'll definitely be picking one up. Gotta ship it though, it will be a hard drive from Texas. ;) rockstar014 10-21-2008, 04:45 AM i cant w8 till i get my zzp kit bc i plan on ordering Cloudio 10-21-2008, 04:56 PM damn i hope they ship it ....at that price they put hahn to shame wollis1 10-22-2008, 01:03 AM anyone know the limits on the turbo that they'll be using or anything specific about this kit yet? HunterKiller89 10-22-2008, 03:29 AM ^^ to all... why dont you guys just buy the Hahn stg V? There would be almost no fabrication to make it fit (no pulley delete kit needed), and you can tune via HPTuners, and there you go...your set for +400WHP If I had the money, thats what I'd do Zdeuce4 10-22-2008, 09:11 AM this kit is designed for the 2.4 and the hahn level 5 is like almost 5k total isnt it? celicacobalt 10-22-2008, 11:37 AM just go hahn Brandon97Z 10-22-2008, 12:18 PM here ya go http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=tp&Category_Code=COB cheapest i've found the kits. Can be upgrade to a gt2871r or a gt3071r for an extra $100 and $250 respectfully. rockstar014 10-22-2008, 01:03 PM yea i would go hahn to but its 5k i dont have that money right now or i would be all over it Cloudio 10-22-2008, 01:09 PM here ya go http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=tp&Category_Code=COB cheapest i've found the kits. Can be upgrade to a gt2871r or a gt3071r for an extra $100 and $250 respectfully. damn bro those are some good prices...what about tuning for us 2.4s though?? i dont know the first thing about hp tuners let alone do i own it i cant w8 till i get my zzp kit bc i plan on ordering anyone know when it will be available via shipment ?? any idea on the tuning solution on shipped kits ?? ship ecu/tcm combo in ?? rockstar014 10-22-2008, 01:11 PM i dont know yet ill email them about it averagewhiteboy 10-22-2008, 01:11 PM here ya go http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=tp&Category_Code=COB cheapest i've found the kits. Can be upgrade to a gt2871r or a gt3071r for an extra $100 and $250 respectfully. 2.4 friendly? The two kits on the top, the complete ones, are those totally assemble, tune, roll set-ups? I hate buying kits and having to complete them.. I like everything to be in the damn box.. lol. rockstar014 10-22-2008, 01:12 PM yea i agree lol averagewhiteboy 10-22-2008, 01:16 PM When you're a "test mule" for something like that, do they give it to you for free afterwards? lol. If so, I'll drive my ass up there tomorrow. rockstar014 10-22-2008, 01:17 PM i emailed about that sadly no u still gotta pay the 3k :( Cloudio 10-22-2008, 01:18 PM i emailed about that sadly no u still gotta pay the 3k :( but 3k shipped with a tune ?? rockstar014 10-22-2008, 01:22 PM 3k for everything they install tune it and dyno it the whole works i think its a pretty good deal Brandon97Z 10-22-2008, 01:28 PM 2.4 friendly? The two kits on the top, the complete ones, are those totally assemble, tune, roll set-ups? I hate buying kits and having to complete them.. I like everything to be in the damn box.. lol. very 2.4 friendly. Infact the hahn kit for the 2.4 is the garrett kit with a few fuel mods thrown in and a tune. Get the GT tuner kit 60lbs and a tune and there ya go. The other kits are for those wanting only the key componets and do the rest themselves. averagewhiteboy 10-22-2008, 01:31 PM If I had 3 g's I'd be all over this.. rockstar014 10-22-2008, 01:32 PM well what would be cool it zzp had the twin charge kit for 2.4s lol averagewhiteboy 10-22-2008, 02:17 PM Without knowing, I'm assuming you could do that if you bought the s/c conversion as well. Indeed it'd be cool if ZZP sold is fully refurbished package of that stuff, but it'd certainly be costly.. But I'd assume you could piece together a s/c kit and throw the twin-charge set-up on as well.. In other options, has anyone seen the turbo kit for Cobalts on eBay? I usually would never mention something like that, however a turbo kit for under a grand needs to be mentioned. Couldn't you buy that kit and just add a better turbo to it and have an ok set up that could be safe for low-boost? I would never buy a kit like that and expect like 22 psi.. lol. But how are the turbos on this ZZP kit? Anyone ever use that brand? Or would you be better buying a Garrett blower and adding that on in place? Brandon97Z 10-22-2008, 02:32 PM You can't always just swap in turbo's.....there are many different intake/exhasut flange combinations. A twin charge 2.4 is a waste of time and money. Its hard enough haveing one form of FI going on a factory na engine. rockstar014 10-22-2008, 03:02 PM yea thats true Cloudio 10-22-2008, 04:19 PM yea thats true need more info on wether there offering a shipped version of this or not ..3k installed and tune would be fine and dandy if i didnt live almost 2000 miles away lol when could we expect a shipped kit with a tuning solution to become available ?? rockstar014 10-23-2008, 12:26 PM i will send them a email about it real soon Sentry 10-24-2008, 02:35 AM Without knowing, I'm assuming you could do that if you bought the s/c conversion as well. Indeed it'd be cool if ZZP sold is fully refurbished package of that stuff, but it'd certainly be costly.. But I'd assume you could piece together a s/c kit and throw the twin-charge set-up on as well.. In other options, has anyone seen the turbo kit for Cobalts on eBay? I usually would never mention something like that, however a turbo kit for under a grand needs to be mentioned. Couldn't you buy that kit and just add a better turbo to it and have an ok set up that could be safe for low-boost? I would never buy a kit like that and expect like 22 psi.. lol. But how are the turbos on this ZZP kit? Anyone ever use that brand? Or would you be better buying a Garrett blower and adding that on in place? Well, as far as the ebay turbo kits, they're good except for the turbo's themselves and maybe the BOV. You get a crappy bov and it sticks, you're gonna pay a lot more money than even the hahn kit. Do it once and do it right, spend the cash on the turbo and BOV for sure, the rest of the piping/lines/clamps/IC can be ebay items. averagewhiteboy 10-24-2008, 04:56 AM So in other words, you could get the eBay kit, but just get a quality BOV and blower? My friend is turbo-ing his B16 CRX, so he has alot of spare shit around.. He even had a cheap-o set-up on his EG coupe that was still pretty sick.. I mean, I really only want low low boost.. Not enough to really worry about blowing anything up.. lol. Is the eBay kit even sized and everything for our car? As in, the tubing and all that? I know that alot of that eBay stuff like that is kinda "one size fits all".. And that's gay.. But if it's reasonable, I may see what I can do.. But also, my 2.4 is an auto.. Will that be OK with a DIY turbo kit? I'd assume so since there are lots of turbo autos, even a distant cousin of the Cobalt, the Saab 9-3 with the 2.0T motor.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__V-BAND-T3-T4-TURBO-KIT-CAMARO-CAVALIER-COBALT-CORVETTE_W0QQitemZ250312835670QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ 20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZVie wItem?hash=item250312835670&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 #ht_6103wt_0 Grr. Universal. It says you need the turbo manifold and a downpipe.. Could you get both of those from the Saab 2.0T? Or what other options do you have? Let's say you bought this kit in the link.. What else would you need to make this work? Price ideas on the manifold? Could I use the stock downpipe or is it a different set-up? I have a GMPP catback, and will be replacing the header/dp/cat early next summer.. So everything will have very good flow.. I'm not worrying about making insane power, just a little added scoot.. I'm willing to work with it a bit if it looks promising..? rockstar014 10-24-2008, 12:09 PM the ebay kit is only missing a couple things brickerenator 10-24-2008, 12:10 PM the ebay kit is only missing a couple things the turbo, intercooler, and other stuff rockstar014 10-24-2008, 12:19 PM no its got all thoes its missing turbo header and i ferget what else lol averagewhiteboy 10-24-2008, 04:09 PM Turbo header? Can you get that from the 9-3 or something like it? I don't want to custom build anything. I want to be able to buy what I need pre-made.. rockstar014 10-25-2008, 01:52 AM yea not hard to find averagewhiteboy 10-25-2008, 11:43 AM So I'd need the eBay kit and the 9-3 2.0T header? Is that it? Does the 9-3 header bolt right on? rockstar014 10-25-2008, 01:50 PM well u prolly could go on zzp and get that turbo header that have u know?? that should fit the t3/t4 turbo no prob averagewhiteboy 10-25-2008, 04:06 PM So you can't use the 9-3 one? I just want to figure all this out because I as gonna replace my header anyway.. So if I am gonna go turbo I'll just get a turbo header obviously instead of a normal one.. Anything else needed for that kit aside from the header? Here's another one.. This one looks a little better.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__JDMS-2005-2007-CHEVY-COBALT-2-4L-T3-TURBO-KIT-05-06-07_W0QQitemZ140270995491QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q 20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItem? _trksid=p4506.m20.l1116 Brandon97Z 10-25-2008, 04:20 PM i'd never buy a turbo kit like that off ebay or anyone for that matter......be prepared for a LOT of headaches, broken parts, etc averagewhiteboy 10-26-2008, 12:12 AM Hmm.. Guess I'm just not meant to go boost.. Why didn't they just make all of these 2.0T's like the 9-3's? lol. I'd like to go s/c even but I want to get the suspension and stuff done more.. I am getting tired of the wheel gap now with the 18's.. Sentry 10-26-2008, 03:06 AM So in other words, you could get the eBay kit, but just get a quality BOV and blower? My friend is turbo-ing his B16 CRX, so he has alot of spare shit around.. He even had a cheap-o set-up on his EG coupe that was still pretty sick.. I mean, I really only want low low boost.. Not enough to really worry about blowing anything up.. lol. Is the eBay kit even sized and everything for our car? As in, the tubing and all that? I know that alot of that eBay stuff like that is kinda "one size fits all".. And that's gay.. But if it's reasonable, I may see what I can do.. But also, my 2.4 is an auto.. Will that be OK with a DIY turbo kit? I'd assume so since there are lots of turbo autos, even a distant cousin of the Cobalt, the Saab 9-3 with the 2.0T motor.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__V-BAND-T3-T4-TURBO-KIT-CAMARO-CAVALIER-COBALT-CORVETTE_W0QQitemZ250312835670QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ 20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZVie wItem?hash=item250312835670&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 #ht_6103wt_0 Grr. Universal. It says you need the turbo manifold and a downpipe.. Could you get both of those from the Saab 2.0T? Or what other options do you have? Let's say you bought this kit in the link.. What else would you need to make this work? Price ideas on the manifold? Could I use the stock downpipe or is it a different set-up? I have a GMPP catback, and will be replacing the header/dp/cat early next summer.. So everything will have very good flow.. I'm not worrying about making insane power, just a little added scoot.. I'm willing to work with it a bit if it looks promising..? The Saab 9-3 turbo header would be fine, but keep in mind that it's a Mitsubishi turbo flange. What I would recommend would be a turbo T3 manifold from zzp (http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=867&catid=155). It's a bit pricey, but the quality is great and it's a common T3 4 bolt flange. As for the downpipe, most people make their own. Don't worry about the downpipe until you buy your turbo, because you're not going to know what kind of flange you will need until after you've got the turbo picked out. There are many kinds of flanges and you don't want to make a downpipe with one flange, and then find a perfect turbo and it doesn't fit. After you know your turbo, then you'll know what flange to get (http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=776&catid=155). Take that to your local exhaust shop and they can make you one with that flange and even weld it onto your current exhaust system if you choose not to upgrade to 3" exhaust. (which is recommended) :) After, you will have to get a universal IC piping kit off ebay and an intercooler, make sure that the inlets and outlets are the same. 2.5" is your best bet, it's small enough to flow air, and yet large enough to support over 400+ hp if you ever decide to take that avenue. Try and get an IC no taller than about 7". Also, keep in mind that you will have to custom do your own brackets to attach it to your frame. You need a wastegate (if your turbo is externally wastegated) and a blow off valve. Tial is the authority on wastegates/BOV. For the wastegate, 38mm is recommended. Larger fuel injectors. Most setups use the 42# injectors from the stage 2 kit. This is large enough for what you're looking for. You can go larger to the 60#, but running low boost, I don't think it's at all necessary. Others can correct me if I'm wrong however. You will also have to redo the wiring harness for your injectors in order to accommodate for the SS injectors. Braided oil lines/fittings, boost controller, turbo timer, vacuum hoses, and fuel pressure/AF ratio/boost gauges are all necessities, but most of that kind of stuff can be found on ebay relatively cheap. All in all, I recommend you read up on how turbos work, and understand the core components of everything. How it all works, what each part does. Once you get the general idea of it all, you'll know yourself what you need. Reading material: http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35 http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=33820 http://beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html The last page is very old, and it mainly discusses integra/honda platforms, but it's a great read and it explains everything in great detail. Good luck piecing together your kit, but if all else fails, go get the hahn/garrett kit. You'll save time and headaches. averagewhiteboy 10-26-2008, 04:14 AM God is that alot of information.. lol Thanks! rockstar014 10-26-2008, 03:12 PM hahahaha a lot of info u need lol Sentry 10-27-2008, 03:36 AM God is that alot of information.. lol Thanks! No problem, and keep in mind that what I posted is an oversimplification of everything you need. Unless you're willing to spend a year or so planning/preparing/learning, you should go with the hahn kit. You'll get everything in a big box of joy, with instructions and pictures, and more importantly support and a community that has experience with that kit. Plus, trifecta can tune that kit to a T by now. Zdeuce4 10-27-2008, 03:39 PM this thead is about zzp why u pushin the hahn kit so much? from wut it looks like this one will just needa tune rockstar014 10-27-2008, 04:02 PM the zzp kit is a good price for 3k they dyno and tune it and also install it all u need i donno about u guys but that a steal if u ask me Cloudio 10-27-2008, 09:22 PM When will they be shipping the kit >????? what is there method of tuning for shipped kits????:cussing: Zdeuce4 10-27-2008, 10:55 PM even if they dont provide tuning with the shipped kits id take a 2.5k kit and get it tuned with hptuners right here at home..even a trifecta tune is wut...275? Sentry 10-28-2008, 12:53 AM this thead is about zzp why u pushin the hahn kit so much? from wut it looks like this one will just needa tune I haven't heard anything from zzp saying that they are going to ship this kit. Right now, the only kit ready to ship is the hahn/garrett kit. HunterKiller89 10-28-2008, 01:20 AM yes, they will ship this kit...how else are they going to make profit? They just need a test car before they start selling them. Zdeuce4 10-28-2008, 12:02 PM I haven't heard anything from zzp saying that they are going to ship this kit. Right now, the only kit ready to ship is the hahn/garrett kit. they told me in my email that they would eventually ship the kits. rockstar014 10-28-2008, 02:58 PM yea they will ship the kit but u gotta w8 they really havent tested the turbo kit yet they need a 2.4 to test it i think im gonna do it that will make sure they dyno and tune it before they are ready to ship the kit Cloudio 10-29-2008, 03:00 PM yea they will ship the kit but u gotta w8 they really havent tested the turbo kit yet they need a 2.4 to test it i think im gonna do it that will make sure they dyno and tune it before they are ready to ship the kit please do bro lol the sooner the better ... i want this kit so bad i just hope this kit stays at a nice and low price cause iam gonna be all over it if so:cssNET: rockstar014 10-30-2008, 01:06 PM ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it nutsandboldts05 10-30-2008, 03:03 PM You guys make me laugh.... :lol: Only because I had seen the same question asked 3 times in a row in more then one occasion. HunterKiller89 10-30-2008, 03:27 PM ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it it only costs this little for the beta testers...once the kit is installed on the test cars and they start shipping, theyre not gonna give u guys this deal mike25 10-30-2008, 05:32 PM ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it coast to coast at no more than 200 ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it coast to coast at no more than 250 rockstar014 10-30-2008, 10:06 PM hey they will there not just gonna make the kit go up they set the price at 3k Zdeuce4 10-30-2008, 10:23 PM it only costs this little for the beta testers...once the kit is installed on the test cars and they start shipping, theyre not gonna give u guys this deal thats not wut they told me. even as listed its supposed to be an affordable option. if they keep it at that price they will take away plenty of people that wouldve gone with hahn Zooomer 10-31-2008, 11:15 AM It will not be a $2000 kit. Think about it. Add the cost of injectors, IC, turbo, exhaust manifold, downpipe. That doesn't include all the misc hardware or the piping or the programming. mike25 10-31-2008, 11:55 AM even if they dont provide tuning with the shipped kits id take a 2.5k kit and get it tuned with hptuners right here at home..even a trifecta tune is wut...275? if anyone here thinks theyl get this kit for 2000 or even 2500 is out of their minds. personally, for wha your geting, should go for way beyond 3000..... Zdeuce4 10-31-2008, 04:04 PM It will not be a $2000 kit. Think about it. Add the cost of injectors, IC, turbo, exhaust manifold, downpipe. That doesn't include all the misc hardware or the piping or the programming. i was expecting the 3k mark not upwards of 3500 or 4k like hahn.. edit...lol if its close to hahn..guess ill do like guy said earlier and get hahns.. crap. Cloudio 10-31-2008, 07:01 PM i was expecting the 3k mark not upwards of 3500 or 4k like hahn.. edit...lol if its close to hahn..guess ill do like guy said earlier and get hahns.. crap. shit if it aint under $3800 theres no fucking point just go with the hahn kit :lol: rockstar014 11-01-2008, 12:16 PM i talked to them tho they said everything to install tune dyno 3k shipping i dont know tho JUICETURBOSS 11-01-2008, 12:22 PM i talked to them tho they said everything to install tune dyno 3k shipping i dont know tho You need to buy the hahnracecraft kit if your looking for quality they know way more about the ecotec engines and they spend alot of r&d in there turbo kits. So my advice go with a hahn kit rockstar014 11-01-2008, 12:29 PM yea well im trying to find a turbo kit that is not 5k for the kit and prolly another 1k to put on and dyno Brandon97Z 11-01-2008, 02:31 PM You need to buy the hahnracecraft kit if your looking for quality they know way more about the ecotec engines and they spend alot of r&d in there turbo kits. So my advice go with a hahn kit Too bad the kit is designed and made by garrett. Hahn just adds tuning, injectors and portfueler. yea well im trying to find a turbo kit that is not 5k for the kit and prolly another 1k to put on and dyno here ya go http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-COB-001&Category_Code=COB garrrett kit $2975 w/ optional gt 2871r http://ottperformance.com/product_info.php?products_id=79 60lb injectors that plug straight into the stock harness. $200 http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/clutch-masters-stage-3-clutch-chevrolet-cobalt-22l-24l-4cyl-0507-p-53787.html stage 3 clutch $700 Add in tuning and for a lil over 4k you have your self a set-up capable of over 350whp and a clutch that can handle it. rockstar014 11-02-2008, 11:45 AM what about ppl that are auto???? Dragonsfire12345 11-02-2008, 12:29 PM what about ppl that are auto???? if your refering to brandon97z post, you get the tranny tuned while you tune. Also add in a tranny cooler and your set :twothumbs Zooomer 11-03-2008, 09:56 AM 3k for the ZZP kit currently includes everything plus dyno tuning and install. Just show up with your car and 3k and leave ready to go. Once the kits are shipping, we'll redo the pricing and they will be under 3k but I can't say exactly how much yet. Zdeuce4 11-03-2008, 10:18 AM 3k for the ZZP kit currently includes everything plus dyno tuning and install. Just show up with your car and 3k and leave ready to go. Once the kits are shipping, we'll redo the pricing and they will be under 3k but I can't say exactly how much yet. thats wut we're lookin for :cssNET: Cloudio 11-03-2008, 11:38 AM 3k for the ZZP kit currently includes everything plus dyno tuning and install. Just show up with your car and 3k and leave ready to go. Once the kits are shipping, we'll redo the pricing and they will be under 3k but I can't say exactly how much yet. Looking forward to doing bussiness lol!!!:twothumbs rockstar014 11-03-2008, 12:12 PM oooo yea i cant w8 to turbo my car!!!! Sentry 11-03-2008, 12:19 PM what about ppl that are auto???? Tranny cooler will help a lot. Keep the boost low because I don't think our trannys will take over 250 TQ reliably. They're built for up to 225, so I imagine they can take at least 250. Get it rebuilt and the 4T45 can take anything you'll ever be able to throw at it. 400+ hp. This is good news from ZZP, but I got a question. What kind of warranty is on this turbo? rockstar014 11-03-2008, 02:06 PM will it can prolly handle a lil more power than that HunterKiller89 11-03-2008, 02:58 PM Tranny cooler will help a lot. Keep the boost low because I don't think our trannys will take over 250 TQ reliably. They're built for up to 225, so I imagine they can take at least 250. Get it rebuilt and the 4T45 can take anything you'll ever be able to throw at it. 400+ hp. This is good news from ZZP, but I got a question. What kind of warranty is on this turbo? theyre rated for 325tq, not 225. the 4t45 is a beast in stock form...but you'll still need a tranny cooler Dragonsfire12345 11-03-2008, 07:03 PM theyre rated for 325tq, not 225. the 4t45 is a beast in stock form...but you'll still need a tranny cooler now is this base torque or torque at the wheels? Sentry 11-03-2008, 07:14 PM theyre rated for 325tq, not 225. the 4t45 is a beast in stock form...but you'll still need a tranny cooler Can you link to this? I want to believe this, but last time I looked at the specs It was rated under 225 TQ. If anyone wants to clarify on this, please do. Cloudio 11-03-2008, 10:01 PM Can you link to this? I want to believe this, but last time I looked at the specs It was rated under 225 TQ. If anyone wants to clarify on this, please do. Hydra-Matic 4T40E/4T45E Specifications Type: four-speed front-wheel-drive, electronically controlled, automatic overdrive transaxle with electronically controlled torque converter clutch. Engine Range: 2.2L-3.5L Max Gearbox Torque: 325 lb.-ft. Weight: 188 lbs. Assembly Site: Windsor, Ontario Applications: Chevrolet: Cobalt, Malibu, Pontiac: G5, G6, Saturn Aura, Vue 4-Cylinder sources:http://www.gminsidenews.com/index.php?page=trans_guide rockstar014 11-04-2008, 12:28 AM i knew it lol HunterKiller89 11-04-2008, 03:02 AM ^^ wikipedia is your friend :) keep in mind the 4t45 was made to take the power of V6 engines Sentry 11-04-2008, 03:10 AM ^^ wikipedia is your friend :) keep in mind the 4t45 was made to take the power of V6 engines Well, wikipedia is what has it rated for 205 ft/lbs of tq. My guestimation of 225 wasn't far off. Good thing for us they're full of shit. I'm really happy I won't have to rebuild it...for now anyways. :) I had actually never seen that GM site for the trannys, nice find. FASTL61 11-04-2008, 03:33 AM can someone give me a linky to this kit i wanna see Dragonsfire12345 11-04-2008, 07:42 PM ^^^ zoomer posted a link on 1st page^^^ rockstar014 11-05-2008, 11:23 AM well i still dont know when zzp will start shipping the kit yet... Dragonsfire12345 11-05-2008, 05:32 PM none of us know... we will have to wait and see rmorris003 11-08-2008, 11:12 PM Ya i would love to turbo my 2.4 as well I was thinking of doing a s/c but screw that turbo it is. rockstar014 11-09-2008, 06:15 PM yea im not s/c my car Cloudio 11-11-2008, 05:09 PM Cmon ZZP give us an update iam over here sweating from the palms in excitement over a shipped kit !!!!!!!!!!:bye: Cmon ZZP give us an update iam over here sweating from the palms in excitement over a shipped kit !!!!!!!!!!:bye: BUMP:cssNET: mike25 11-15-2008, 09:26 PM this kit is all well and good..but i wonder what hahns cooking up with the stage three...hhmm Zooomer 11-20-2008, 05:12 PM Page, options and information have been updated. http://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt_ion/products1.php?id=922&catid=143 HunterKiller89 11-20-2008, 06:41 PM very nice. that IC sure gets expensive fast tho..lol There is no differenve vetween stage I and stage III other than the FMIC and injectors, correct? Zdeuce4 11-20-2008, 07:49 PM omg that is a good price... i wish u were in my area. wollis1 11-20-2008, 08:39 PM very nice. that IC sure gets expensive fast tho..lol There is no differenve vetween stage I and stage III other than the FMIC and injectors, correct? also different size downpipe and turbo has an extended tip... thats all i can see REDFOCZ 11-27-2008, 03:51 PM I wounder if he would be able to email the tune for people who are not local? Also I hope they make this kit us Ion guys aswell. Jn2 11-27-2008, 03:57 PM i wanna know if he will sell the kit solo, no tuning, only the parts, i can install myself and have trifecta tune it Zooomer 11-28-2008, 04:42 PM Not much longer and the opportunity to snag a black Friday deal on this disappears... celicacobalt 11-28-2008, 06:31 PM Looks like a great deal, though on the stage 3, 39# injectors seem too small. To run correctly on my 11 psi i had to install 60#ers. Maybe its just my setup but thought i would throw that out there. kush 12-10-2008, 04:24 PM Are the HP values estimates or are they actual dyno'd facts? Anyone have #'s for these kits on an actual car? rockstar014 12-11-2008, 05:43 PM well round feb im gonna put stage 2 in my car kush 12-12-2008, 01:56 AM it'll be good to see some #'s after ppl get these set ups Balt36 12-14-2008, 12:41 PM any update on the kit? when will it be for sale??? mike25 12-14-2008, 08:50 PM any update on the kit? when will it be for sale??? read...already is...you have to buy it and ride to their shop to have it put on Jn2 12-14-2008, 09:21 PM im sure more would buy if they would ship it out, not everyone needs stuff handed to them :p HunterKiller89 12-15-2008, 02:57 AM ^^ im sure they will start shipping em eventually. PM them and ask why they arent... Jn2 12-15-2008, 03:00 AM eh i wont bother, i have plans lined up with another vendor who is shipping out as soon as i pay for it :) i dont like waiting for something to ship if i already bought it lol Balt36 12-16-2008, 05:52 PM Bumpppp. Just talked to zzp...they will knock off 250 bucks for those who dont want the tune. And they will only dyno b4 they install not after....From what I understand.....cuz it wasnt very clear...that they will not ship the kits out...whihc is I think is dumb as hell...Iam not going to drive accross the country. I sent them an email in regards to shipping out and waiting for another response. Jn2 12-16-2008, 10:30 PM if they sold the kit with just manifold, turbo, downpipe, charge piping and intercooler, id buy it, i dont need injectors i woudl bu 60's anyway, and i woudl install myself, and have it dynos locally, limited the sells of the kits to locals is dumb, but oh well its their loss not our, there are loads of vendors who will ship a turbo kit ;) Balt36 12-16-2008, 10:35 PM ya i totally agree^^ they really want me to drive accross the country....like there the only turbo productionary elecblue06 12-16-2008, 11:20 PM i was under the impression they only wanted the first few in house till they could get everything nailed down Jn2 12-16-2008, 11:56 PM not sure, might be b/c of that, but if it is, they should of put need a test car for the turbo kit, not put it up like we can actually buy it and get it shipped next day pacific cobalt 01-03-2009, 02:15 PM Has anyone acutally driven out and got one of these turbo kits installed? Something I don't like is that stage 1 and 2 both use 33# injectors. Only the stg.3 has 39# injectors. My garrett turbo kit came with 39# injectors and I know that mrsilent13 had tried 34# with his custom turbo kit and they were being maxed out. nikebaseballx00 01-03-2009, 02:34 PM Has anyone acutally driven out and got one of these turbo kits installed? Something I don't like is that stage 1 and 2 both use 33# injectors. Only the stg.3 has 39# injectors. My garrett turbo kit came with 39# injectors and I know that mrsilent13 had tried 34# with his custom turbo kit and they were being maxed out. im probably going to try it out within the next year with a tune from trifecta im gunna get the stage 1, but see if can get the front mount intercooler Balt36 01-05-2009, 11:43 AM any updates? rockstar014 01-14-2009, 11:53 PM i was gonna go buy the turbo kit but..... i decided to go s/c Balt36 01-29-2009, 09:47 AM wuts the deal with this kit zzp?!?!?!?!?!?! ShortStack 01-29-2009, 06:51 PM what do u mean? all the info is on there web page. riko540 01-29-2009, 07:11 PM Here is some more info about the ZZP turbo kit: http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=151788 Balt36 01-30-2009, 12:23 AM u cant buy it unless they install it? |