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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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yea not hard to find
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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So I'd need the eBay kit and the 9-3 2.0T header? Is that it? Does the 9-3 header bolt right on?
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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well u prolly could go on zzp and get that turbo header that have u know?? that should fit the t3/t4 turbo no prob
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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So you can't use the 9-3 one? I just want to figure all this out because I as gonna replace my header anyway.. So if I am gonna go turbo I'll just get a turbo header obviously instead of a normal one.. Anything else needed for that kit aside from the header?

Here's another one.. This one looks a little better..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-...4506.m20.l1116

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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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i'd never buy a turbo kit like that off ebay or anyone for that matter......be prepared for a LOT of headaches, broken parts, etc
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 12:12 AM
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Hmm.. Guess I'm just not meant to go boost.. Why didn't they just make all of these 2.0T's like the 9-3's? lol. I'd like to go s/c even but I want to get the suspension and stuff done more.. I am getting tired of the wheel gap now with the 18's..
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:06 AM
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So in other words, you could get the eBay kit, but just get a quality BOV and blower? My friend is turbo-ing his B16 CRX, so he has alot of spare **** around.. He even had a cheap-o set-up on his EG coupe that was still pretty sick.. I mean, I really only want low low boost.. Not enough to really worry about blowing anything up.. lol. Is the eBay kit even sized and everything for our car? As in, the tubing and all that? I know that alot of that eBay stuff like that is kinda "one size fits all".. And that's gay.. But if it's reasonable, I may see what I can do.. But also, my 2.4 is an auto.. Will that be OK with a DIY turbo kit? I'd assume so since there are lots of turbo autos, even a distant cousin of the Cobalt, the Saab 9-3 with the 2.0T motor..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-...18#ht_6103wt_0

Grr. Universal. It says you need the turbo manifold and a downpipe.. Could you get both of those from the Saab 2.0T? Or what other options do you have? Let's say you bought this kit in the link.. What else would you need to make this work? Price ideas on the manifold? Could I use the stock downpipe or is it a different set-up? I have a GMPP catback, and will be replacing the header/dp/cat early next summer.. So everything will have very good flow.. I'm not worrying about making insane power, just a little added scoot.. I'm willing to work with it a bit if it looks promising..?
The Saab 9-3 turbo header would be fine, but keep in mind that it's a Mitsubishi turbo flange. What I would recommend would be a turbo T3 manifold from zzp.

It's a bit pricey, but the quality is great and it's a common T3 4 bolt flange. As for the downpipe, most people make their own. Don't worry about the downpipe until you buy your turbo, because you're not going to know what kind of flange you will need until after you've got the turbo picked out. There are many kinds of flanges and you don't want to make a downpipe with one flange, and then find a perfect turbo and it doesn't fit.

After you know your turbo, then you'll know what flange to get. Take that to your local exhaust shop and they can make you one with that flange and even weld it onto your current exhaust system if you choose not to upgrade to 3" exhaust. (which is recommended)

After, you will have to get a universal IC piping kit off ebay and an intercooler, make sure that the inlets and outlets are the same. 2.5" is your best bet, it's small enough to flow air, and yet large enough to support over 400+ hp if you ever decide to take that avenue. Try and get an IC no taller than about 7". Also, keep in mind that you will have to custom do your own brackets to attach it to your frame.

You need a wastegate (if your turbo is externally wastegated) and a blow off valve. Tial is the authority on wastegates/BOV. For the wastegate, 38mm is recommended.

Larger fuel injectors. Most setups use the 42# injectors from the stage 2 kit. This is large enough for what you're looking for. You can go larger to the 60#, but running low boost, I don't think it's at all necessary. Others can correct me if I'm wrong however. You will also have to redo the wiring harness for your injectors in order to accommodate for the SS injectors.

Braided oil lines/fittings, boost controller, turbo timer, vacuum hoses, and fuel pressure/AF ratio/boost gauges are all necessities, but most of that kind of stuff can be found on ebay relatively cheap.

All in all, I recommend you read up on how turbos work, and understand the core components of everything. How it all works, what each part does. Once you get the general idea of it all, you'll know yourself what you need.

Reading material:

http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forced-induction-50/ultimate-ecotec-related-turbo-faq-33820/
http://beesandgoats.com/boostfaq/g2icturbo.html

The last page is very old, and it mainly discusses integra/honda platforms, but it's a great read and it explains everything in great detail.

Good luck piecing together your kit, but if all else fails, go get the hahn/garrett kit. You'll save time and headaches.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 04:14 AM
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God is that alot of information.. lol Thanks!
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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hahahaha a lot of info u need lol
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:36 AM
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God is that alot of information.. lol Thanks!
No problem, and keep in mind that what I posted is an oversimplification of everything you need.


Unless you're willing to spend a year or so planning/preparing/learning, you should go with the hahn kit.

You'll get everything in a big box of joy, with instructions and pictures, and more importantly support and a community that has experience with that kit. Plus, trifecta can tune that kit to a T by now.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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this thead is about zzp why u pushin the hahn kit so much? from wut it looks like this one will just needa tune
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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the zzp kit is a good price for 3k they dyno and tune it and also install it all u need i donno about u guys but that a steal if u ask me
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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When will they be shipping the kit >????? what is there method of tuning for shipped kits????
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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even if they dont provide tuning with the shipped kits id take a 2.5k kit and get it tuned with hptuners right here at home..even a trifecta tune is wut...275?
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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this thead is about zzp why u pushin the hahn kit so much? from wut it looks like this one will just needa tune
I haven't heard anything from zzp saying that they are going to ship this kit.

Right now, the only kit ready to ship is the hahn/garrett kit.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 01:20 AM
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yes, they will ship this kit...how else are they going to make profit?

They just need a test car before they start selling them.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentry
I haven't heard anything from zzp saying that they are going to ship this kit.

Right now, the only kit ready to ship is the hahn/garrett kit.
they told me in my email that they would eventually ship the kits.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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yea they will ship the kit but u gotta w8 they really havent tested the turbo kit yet they need a 2.4 to test it i think im gonna do it that will make sure they dyno and tune it before they are ready to ship the kit
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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yea they will ship the kit but u gotta w8 they really havent tested the turbo kit yet they need a 2.4 to test it i think im gonna do it that will make sure they dyno and tune it before they are ready to ship the kit
please do bro lol the sooner the better ... i want this kit so bad i just hope this kit stays at a nice and low price cause iam gonna be all over it if so
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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You guys make me laugh....

Only because I had seen the same question asked 3 times in a row in more then one occasion.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it
it only costs this little for the beta testers...once the kit is installed on the test cars and they start shipping, theyre not gonna give u guys this deal
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it
coast to coast at no more than 200

Originally Posted by rockstar014
ok well the kit itself cost only 2k the extra 1k is tune install ete... but shipping will be a lil bit tho but i will def check into it
coast to coast at no more than 250

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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hey they will there not just gonna make the kit go up they set the price at 3k
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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it only costs this little for the beta testers...once the kit is installed on the test cars and they start shipping, theyre not gonna give u guys this deal
thats not wut they told me. even as listed its supposed to be an affordable option. if they keep it at that price they will take away plenty of people that wouldve gone with hahn
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