Hey there everyone, I have a 2006 ss and i feel that the cobalt is overlooked as a solid street racing car. I have smashed several of my friends on different occassions. I have beat countless civics and lancers and neons and even an srt-4 for good measure. I just wish the cobalt would get some respect, becaue everyone I talk to thinks its a weak ass car. I think everyone without a cobalt should give it some well-deserved respect!

The Cobalt is the underdog and I like the fact that no one truely knows what our cars are capable of. Hell, we don't even know the full potential as of yet. The beariers are still being broken and the envelope pushed. I love the fact that I can drive down the road an have some goof ball in a Crustang or honda look at me funny and laugh, cause when I line up with em and drive away, the look that's left on their face is PRICELESS...lol

I agree with you 100% man word on that. I love it when you suprise the living shit out of someone! I hate civics and I love when I smash them!

i don't really street race, but i've surprised a few people even in my 2.2... i think all cobalts are overlooked...

Man I love you people! I don't really race either, but when I see an agressive looking import I like to step up and put it to them if you know what I mean! I like to see what my balt is made of.

The SS/SC is probably the best kept performance secret on the market today. All the magazines rate the car like crap, prices are dirt cheap, and you get no respect on the streets. But all you gotta do is put the pedal down and whomever is in the other lane is gonna realise that this thing ain't just another rice car with a big wing.

The SS/SC is probably the best kept performance secret on the market today. All the magazines rate the car like crap, prices are dirt cheap, and you get no respect on the streets. But all you gotta do is put the pedal down and whomever is in the other lane is gonna realise that this thing ain't just another rice car with a big wing.

well put!:guns: :guns:

The word is getting out though thanks to the guys posting vids of cobalts walking all over ls1 GTO's and other respected cars. Just in my area alone I couldn't get a honda to run with me to save my life anymore. I got the lo pro wing and will debadge in the spring in an effort to get more races.

Yes it is definalty getting harder to find a good race in my area. There are not many cobalts around but the few that are have made our presence known!

Yeah, the car is very underrated, and disrespected! Oh, well everyone around here, that has messed with me has lost... so that is all the respect I need!

The Cobalt is the underdog and I like the fact that no one truely knows what our cars are capable of. Hell, we don't even know the full potential as of yet. The beariers are still being broken and the envelope pushed. I love the fact that I can drive down the road an have some goof ball in a Crustang or honda look at me funny and laugh, cause when I line up with em and drive away, the look that's left on their face is PRICELESS...lol

You hit the nail right on the proverbial head. It is great that most people don't have a clue. But when you leave them in the dust........what an absolutely great feeling!!! I had an SRT-4 two weeks ago in front of me on a major highway. I followed him in the hammer lane with a very respectable distance doing about 70mph. He would never move to the right lane when there was no traffic and I usually do 74 -76. So after 20 minutes I deceided to pass him on the right. Well wouldn't you know he didn't like that very much and didn't give me the same respect. He tried pasing me on the right by backing off and then getting a run. I just dropped it into 4th and he never could catch up to me (pretty even match). Just before he got off at his exit and traffic was moving slow he quicly passed me to the right (I was not concerned) got in front of me, revved the engine so I could hear the turbo and then got into the right lane to exit. I just waved at them when I went by. In this case I believe they found out that the ss/sc isn't a pushover.;)

The SS/SC is probably the best kept performance secret on the market today. All the magazines rate the car like crap, prices are dirt cheap, and you get no respect on the streets. But all you gotta do is put the pedal down and whomever is in the other lane is gonna realise that this thing ain't just another rice car with a big wing.

x2!!!! Couldn't have said it better myself.

i dont car i love it when people talk shit about my car... i just agree...

ur car is just a cav.. " ur right"

why didnt u buy a fast car. " because im afraid of speed"

dude my honda will own u. " ull be watching my tail lights"

yeah well around here when i first got my cobalt ss s/c no one had it except one guy, he also had a red ss s/c and well now theres a bunch but at that time me and alex pretty much got told the cars are slow and all, well once we broke them in me and alex both proived this area wrong and we started to race cars like evos stis 350z's and a bunch of other cars and people noticed that we were actually keeping up and beating some of these cars and now they all has respect for the cars, and then they heard about gm stage 2 and otehr stage ktis and now they are even more scared of us, and im officialy the fastest and nicest ride in my high school as eveyone would say, the only competitor i have is my friends trailblazer ss but me and him are friends so we dont compete with each other we ride together, but now rumor goes around school i am getting stage 4 lol but yeah cobalts are really under rated

yeah well around here when i first got my cobalt ss s/c no one had it except one guy, he also had a red ss s/c and well now theres a bunch but at that time me and alex pretty much got told the cars are slow and all, well once we broke them in me and alex both proived this area wrong and we started to race cars like evos stis 350z's and a bunch of other cars and people noticed that we were actually keeping up and beating some of these cars and now they all has respect for the cars, and then they heard about gm stage 2 and otehr stage ktis and now they are even more scared of us, and im officialy the fastest and nicest ride in my high school as eveyone would say, the only competitor i have is my friends trailblazer ss but me and him are friends so we dont compete with each other we ride together, but now rumor goes around school i am getting stage 4 lol but yeah cobalts are really under rated

wow.... when i was in highschool..... we all had POS beater cars and talked about upgrading to our working headlight mod lol. we were also complaining about how gas had gotten all the way up to 1.40 =/

your school is like "Fast and the Furious: 11th grade" hehe :D

Yeah it's underrated I suppose and that's a good thing. I means less teenagers with crappy cars trying to race us. Hell even one of the techs at my dealership was ragging on me. He's a total dumbass though and I put him and his late 90s Camaro RS (yeah V6 power 4 life) with exhaust in it's place.

Street racing is dumb by the way.

The SS/SC is probably the best kept performance secret on the market today. All the magazines rate the car like crap, prices are dirt cheap, and you get no respect on the streets. But all you gotta do is put the pedal down and whomever is in the other lane is gonna realise that this thing ain't just another rice car with a big wing.

damn almost want to put that in my sig

underrated and I don't care if I get no respect!! A short little run against anybody and they look the car over and over again.... what is that thing? I am badgeless and wingless, I feel I have one of the ultimate sleepers out on the road.... whatever you got, bring it on!!
I may not win all the time.... but, you are not going to run away from me!!!:twothumbs

I would say its underrated cause you have guys in Sentra forums thinkin they can keep up after they dump 2K in their SE-R and happen to beat what is known an NON SUPERCHARGED cobalt. So they think they own cobalts all time cause they beat one thats not supercharged and such. When they actually think wow im fast when i had one behind me as i blew the doors off of a freakin 350Z who had no traction what so ever off the line. Totally put em both in their place. But best to date ran an M3 from a 20 roll and by the time we hit about 130 or so he put a half a length or so on me. He was so impressed he wanted to talk sayin how he killed one a couple week ago..... Only to find yet again the 2.4 guys are giving us a bad name.... shame shame

I would say its underrated cause you have guys in Sentra forums thinkin they can keep up after they dump 2K in their SE-R and happen to beat what is known an NON SUPERCHARGED cobalt. So they think they own cobalts all time cause they beat one thats not supercharged and such. When they actually think wow im fast when i had one behind me as i blew the doors off of a freakin 350Z who had no traction what so ever off the line. Totally put em both in their place. But best to date ran an M3 from a 20 roll and by the time we hit about 130 or so he put a half a length or so on me. He was so impressed he wanted to talk sayin how he killed one a couple week ago..... Only to find yet again the 2.4 guys are giving us a bad name.... shame shame

GM should recall them all and scrap them.

Yes.

It is way underrated. It has it's shortcomings, but it can be a powerhouse. The SS/na gives up SS/SC's a bad name and muds our credibility, and like any other SpoCom out there, we are full of posers too who think their factory SS/SC is faster than anything out there, and have not gone out to earn the due respect, or made the effort to pioneer any mods or tuning for their cars.

Intake and Exhaust does not = a fast cobalt.

The Cobalt is the underdog and I like the fact that no one truely knows what our cars are capable of. Hell, we don't even know the full potential as of yet. The beariers are still being broken and the envelope pushed. I love the fact that I can drive down the road an have some goof ball in a Crustang or honda look at me funny and laugh, cause when I line up with em and drive away, the look that's left on their face is PRICELESS...lol

I could not agree more. Cobalts are known as the underdogs and I personally always was a underdog fan. The thing is were truly not underdogs, Cobalts are just simply under rated. Give it a a few years and you will see the respect. I my area Cobalt ss/sc is getting alot more respect as time goes on. Specailly when you show them a time slip in the low 13s with all GM bolt ons. Now thats what I'm talking about. Got warinty? I know I'm keeping my 7 year 75k mile warinty, thats a pretty damn good bumber to bumber imo.

I would say its underrated cause you have guys in Sentra forums thinkin they can keep up after they dump 2K in their SE-R and happen to beat what is known an NON SUPERCHARGED cobalt. So they think they own cobalts all time cause they beat one thats not supercharged and such. When they actually think wow im fast when i had one behind me as i blew the doors off of a freakin 350Z who had no traction what so ever off the line. Totally put em both in their place. But best to date ran an M3 from a 20 roll and by the time we hit about 130 or so he put a half a length or so on me. He was so impressed he wanted to talk sayin how he killed one a couple week ago..... Only to find yet again the 2.4 guys are giving us a bad name.... shame shame


Sentra > than Cobalt SS/SC LMFAO! You let me know when a Sentra hits 310hp, then I will consider it equal. That reminds me of when I met my old buddy Mike at the track and was surprised to see him there because the last time I saw him he owned an OZ Lancer. When I asked him what he drove, he smiled and said "I just got an SE-R Spec V. It's so Fast!". And he asked if I still had my G6, and I said no, I got a cobalt SS. He said that we should race because it would be equal, and I laughed and asked how much power he thought he had. He said about 180whp, and I laughed again and said well I'm sorry 180<270whp

350Z's are also slower, but it's great to crush their ego's!

....on the end i dont care what ppl think.....if i'm happy thats waht matters

haha tru that scrap em all and give em all a different name would definitely be proper. and yeah that is what most sentra owners think that we are rated at the flywheel so we really only dyno like 180 or so when they couldnt be more wrong. its okay their ignorance is more pleasure for me when i prove that my SS has a little more than that 180. And once again leaving the world in total shock!

Hey there everyone, I have a 2006 ss and i feel that the cobalt is overlooked as a solid street racing car. I have smashed several of my friends on different occassions. I have beat countless civics and lancers and neons and even an srt-4 for good measure. I just wish the cobalt would get some respect, becaue everyone I talk to thinks its a weak ass car. I think everyone without a cobalt should give it some well-deserved respect!

Hey I am Bakersfield would you like to run my stock 4 cylinder import??? 100 dollars sound good??? Time to earn some respect.

ive had guys with 350 z say they like the car...and I can keep up

A quote from car and driver paraphrased

"The Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged is one of the best kept secrets in the marketplace today."

The car is already putting people in there places with the stock blower. Remember, the SRT-4 was quick, but only really started to own pretty much everything when turbo upgrades were made available.

In a matter of days, the tag blower swap will be available. Then the Cobalt name will be really made.

Yeah it's underrated I suppose and that's a good thing. I means less teenagers with crappy cars trying to race us. Hell even one of the techs at my dealership was ragging on me. He's a total dumbass though and I put him and his late 90s Camaro RS (yeah V6 power 4 life) with exhaust in it's place.

Street racing is dumb by the way.

what ??????? if its underrated that means MORE teenagers in their crappy cars will want to race us which = Not good , underrated cars = cars that are taken to be slow , in conclusion underrated cars=cars that teenagers in crappy cars want to race

This thread is not about which Cobalt is better duh this is about Do you think the Cobalt is under rated?? Please don't start saying, oh the S/C is this and that over the N/A SS, or the 2.2L is not that, yada yada yada.. We all own Cobalts so just leave it at that! I've had some people with S/C's show me some respect with my 2.4L, and I've given some respect to some 2.2L guys..

This is not about which Cobalt is better! There all great in there own little way and all under rated!! Its Gm's fault for giving everything that they put out the SS badge, so write to them and complain.. The Cobalt has been out for what, 3-4 yrs?? Yes we get people saying, oh your just driving a Cavy, I just tell them you don't know much do you!!:nono: Its not even close to the Cavilier.. I'm rambling here now but ya the Cobalt is under rated, all 3 motors are!!! But we shut up those fools that don't know enough about our cars after we leave them behind:lol: Anyways I may have pissed in someones cornflakes with my comment here so I'll leave it at that:ca: :cssNET:

what ??????? if its underrated that means MORE teenagers in their crappy cars will want to race us which = Not good , underrated cars = cars that are taken to be slow , in conclusion underrated cars=cars that teenagers in crappy cars want to race

Well my thinking is that kids don't even look my way because they think it's a waste of time. The only people I get wanting to race me are V8 guys, probably with small penises trying to prove something to themselves. Then they get the disapointment of having me hang with them.

The Cobalt has been out for what, 3-4 yrs?? Yes we get people saying, oh your just driving a Cavy, I just tell them you don't know much do you!!:nono: Its not even close to the Cavilier..


Every time I hear that the Cobalt is just a rebadged Cavalier, I want to ask Why? They have nothing in common; are you saying that just because they are built at the same plant and replaced the Cavalier in the Chevy lineup? By the same line of reasoning, maybe we should say the Cavalier is just a rebadged Vega.

Maybe I should change my signature to say 2006 Vega GT.

slightly off topic but- stock ss/sc vs stock civic= ?

Hey I am Bakersfield would you like to run my stock 4 cylinder import??? 100 dollars sound good??? Time to earn some respect.

you are so cool...

you are so cool...

I would go race him and take his $100, he obviously wants to lose it.

haha seriously, I'll race a stock NA 4cyl anytime for 100$!!

I think the Cobalt ss/sc is especially under rated because even GM doesn't publish Peak HP and TQ numbers for it. Every other sport compact on the market has the numbers for peak output published. Every stock ss/sc ive ever heard of gets at least 210hp at the wheels when dynoed. And with the new SAE certification, many cars have had to restate their power and gas milage to pass, but the ss/sc didn't have to change anything. All becase GM likes to underrate thir performance cars from the begining.

I would go race him and take his $100, he obviously wants to lose it.

i wish i could but i dont have a license. hes probably a kid with a sti or evo that thinks he is hot shit and can own everything on the road because he has the almighty awd.

Yeah it's underrated I suppose and that's a good thing. I means less teenagers with crappy cars trying to race us. Hell even one of the techs at my dealership was ragging on me. He's a total dumbass though and I put him and his late 90s Camaro RS (yeah V6 power 4 life) with exhaust in it's place.

Street racing is dumb by the way.

word i did the same thing to a friend of mine with the exact same car and i have a 2.4 i bet you really smoked his ass.

I think that the Cobalt is an under dog...not underated. It is what it is...I think that the owners try to over rate them. I mean, seriously, not trying to dog the SS/SC cause I like the car...decent car for 20 grand or so, sub 200 HP or whatever car but that's about it.

I seriously get tired of people when they try to compare them to SRT-4s or any other car in the market (sorry to say this guys) that do not obviously compare...this is purely from a "project car" build up point of view, not in stock form, which is how most people try to compare to them.

So underated, nope.

I think this goes with ever car class though (atleast in the tuner world). Every car owner feels like they are under dogs in some huge dog pound of cars and they throw around the word "potential" like it means anything. If you're coming from a perspective of building a performance vehicle, potential is from how much money you have in your pocket and/or the brain cells you have in your head.

Sure, you guys have potential but I think only a handful of owners are really doing anything more than talking about what they are going to do.

Wasn't trying to go off topic or anything but it's all hand and hand with the original question. Some of you guys might not like what i have to say...oh well. To each is own.

EDIT: now the redline, that car is in a league above

I have a LS Sport cavalier with the 2.2 ecotec and i've killed a bunch of cars that underestimated the power this motor really has. Now i have my SS/SC and whatever i couldnt take out with my cavalier my SS does the job. I have to agree on the underestimation that is tagged along with our car. I love my SS/SC and there is now way that it is a beefed up cavalier. Their arent too many Cobalts out here where i'm at and i've turned so many heads when i took out some GT Stangs cause it seems to be what everyone drives out here. Anyways I love my cobalt!:twothumbs :cssNET:

yes i feel my car is really underated..oh well for a hopped up cavy its the best haha

I think that the Cobalt is an under dog...not underated. It is what it is...I think that the owners try to over rate them. I mean, seriously, not trying to dog the SS/SC cause I like the car...decent car for 20 grand or so, sub 200 HP or whatever car but that's about it.

I seriously get tired of people when they try to compare them to SRT-4s or any other car in the market (sorry to say this guys) that do not obviously compare...this is purely from a "project car" build up point of view, not in stock form, which is how most people try to compare to them.

So underated, nope.

I think this goes with ever car class though (atleast in the tuner world). Every car owner feels like they are under dogs in some huge dog pound of cars and they throw around the word "potential" like it means anything. If you're coming from a perspective of building a performance vehicle, potential is from how much money you have in your pocket and/or the brain cells you have in your head.

Sure, you guys have potential but I think only a handful of owners are really doing anything more than talking about what they are going to do.

Wasn't trying to go off topic or anything but it's all hand and hand with the original question. Some of you guys might not like what i have to say...oh well. To each is own.

I kinda agree wit you but people dont even see this car in the same league as the srt4 but it isnt much slower. People dont think this car can keep up with the 350zs and G35s but it does because its a pretty light car with a lotta hp and tq for a 4 cylinder. The cobalts are seen as crappy domestic cars and there arent any aftermarket turbos or superchargers yet, but theyl be here soon:cssNET:

I kinda agree wit you but people dont even see this car in the same league as the srt4 but it isnt much slower. People dont think this car can keep up with the 350zs and G35s but it does because its a pretty light car with a lotta hp and tq for a 4 cylinder. The cobalts are seen as crappy domestic cars and there arent any aftermarket turbos or superchargers yet, but theyl be here soon:cssNET:

Yeah but there is a difference from being underated and being an underdog...

Underdogs are typically underestimated by people (in this case, people think you're slow)

Underated means typically that you're rated at a certain performance offically but you're really higher.

i wish i could but i dont have a license. hes probably a kid with a sti or evo that thinks he is hot shit and can own everything on the road because he has the almighty awd.

Well when you get your driver's license let me know so I can break you off. Until then stop talking shit.

haha seriously, I'll race a stock NA 4cyl anytime for 100$!!


Go find a lotus.

Only to find yet again the 2.4 guys are giving us a bad name.... shame shame

how do you know know it wasint a SS S/C that he raced and the person in the cobalt just cant drive?? the 2.4L can hold its own on the streets just fine. yes the 2.0 is alot faster but because the s/c is the top of the line cobalt people can race a LS cobalt and be like oh nope it was a SS SC. know one knows what car is was or what motor is in it other then the driver of the cobalt. so let them think they raced a s/c cobalt when they really didnt. you know your cars faster so who gives a shit what people think who are driveing sentras and civics?

Well when you get your driver's license let me know so I can break you off. Until then stop talking shit.




Go find a lotus.

dude get a life... you drive a lotus and your hear talking about racing us...:thumbsdow

dude get a life... you drive a lotus and your hear talking about racing us...:thumbsdow

Wow, no wonder you don't have a license. You can't read. Where did I say I have a Lotus??? You still have heads up for $100, with my stock 4cyl. Also Martinsmu race a well driven S2000.

Wow, Who let the trolls in? I agree that the balt has no respect.

Wow, Who let the trolls in? I agree that the balt has no respect.

Sorry but respect is earned not given. It really has nothing to do with the car when it comes to respect but more so the owner.

Then by these definitions, we fit both catagories. Because people do underestimate (thinking we are slow) our cars, and "Officially" the Cobalt SS/SC is rated at 205hp, yes at like 5600rpm, but still. lol..



Not all of us are running our mouths, and this thread, I believe, was started to just show off how happy the original poster is about his car and give others there opportunity to do the same. I don't think it's that everyone stereotypes the owners of the Honda as much as the car itself, but then you have to remember that Honda has been one of the largest competitors in the Sport Compact World for how long?? I think it's just nice to see a Domestic vehicle (GM at that, and keep in mind that I am biased. lol) representing as well as it is. Instead of getting all upset, maybe you should be a little more appreciative of the fact that this is not only a Domestic vehicle that is holding it's own, but also that it's not all that bad looking either.

Now, I am a bit old school, so I can appreciate any properly modded (Properly as in, not slapping on a HUGE aluminum wing, bunch of stickers and cutting off the exhaust, or adding that GAY train whistle thing in the tip. lol) vehicle. Weather it be a Subaru, Honda, or even a Chevette with a massive motor in it, just as long as the driver is cool and not a dick.

All this being said, I take it you don't own a Cobalt. So with you being on a Cobalt website, you must be able to accept that there will be biased comments made about other vehicles just as you would hear massive amounts of bashing on a Honda website about the Cobalts and how slow they are. Just take it with a grain of salt and move on. No point in getting upset over a couple comments like that.

alright i understand what you are saying, no i do not own a cobalt but my brother does.
i prolly driven the car before most of the people on this site, he picked his black ss s/c up right when they first came out, his was the first one the dealer sold. i really like the cobalt and i'm not just attacking you guy i meant everyone who bashes honda, but i guess its like everything else

Wow, no wonder you don't have a license. You can't read. Where did I say I have a Lotus??? You still have heads up for $100, with my stock 4cyl. Also Martinsmu race a well driven S2000.

Does it have to be a 4 cylinder? You sound like you think your hot stuff. One of my coworkers wants a shot at your bad as 4 banger and this 100$

yea you guys are all right, you can beat anything
and you guys will all own ever honduhhhhh out there....
u guys make me laugh its a 20k car, wake up people....

i like how everyone sterotypes honda owners, it's like saying every black person carries a gun or something like that.....RIGHT

anyone in the chicago area wanna meet me for a friendly race, i'll run ya MABYE i can give u cobalt guys something really to talk about, and for you guys to stop running ur mouths

Oh get over it. You don't think there are going to be fanboys here? It's a Cobalt website. I'm sure there are plenty of fanboys over at honda4life.net or whatever your equivilent to this site is. You make me laugh with your high and mighty attitude. It's a 20k dollar car but for some young people that's a big accomplishment. Not everyone makes six figures. Just let people who are proud (a little too much maybe) of their car be. They really aren't hurting anything.

Seriously though, what's with the trolls on this site lately? Stop trying to save the world people because you can't.

NJHK: I thought every black man carried a gun? Can you confirm this for us. :) Where's the ask a black dude thread?

Does it have to be a 4 cylinder? You sound like you think your hot stuff. One of my coworkers wants a shot at your bad as 4 banger and this 100$



Oh get over it. You don't think there are going to be fanboys here? It's a Cobalt website. I'm sure there are plenty of fanboys over at honda4life.net or whatever your equivilent to this site is. You make me laugh with your high and mighty attitude. It's a 20k dollar car but for some young people that's a big accomplishment. Not everyone makes six figures. Just let people who are proud (a little too much maybe) of their car be. They really aren't hurting anything.

Seriously though, what's with the trolls on this site lately? Stop trying to save the world people because you can't.

NJHK: I thought every black man carried a gun? Can you confirm this for us. :) Where's the ask a black dude thread?

theres a fine line between being a (FANBOY) like you call it, and putting other people's cars down because certain groups of people act certain ways. you and ur coworker should be each others fanboy's

Does it have to be a 4 cylinder? You sound like you think your hot stuff. One of my coworkers wants a shot at your bad as 4 banger and this 100$


Huh??? I call out some Cobalts that are somewhat local to me and you and your "coworker" want to set something up from across the country. Intelligent.:twothumbs

What's with these newbies running their mouths? This thread isn't about your egos guys. This is about the underappreciated Cobalt.

I agree that the Cobalt doesn't have a reputation for being fast. Use that to your advantage when possible. If people think you're fast and you beat them, they'll see it coming. It's so much more fun being the underdog.

What's with these newbies running their mouths? This thread isn't about your egos guys. This is about the underappreciated Cobalt.

I agree that the Cobalt doesn't have a reputation for being fast. Use that to your advantage when possible. If people think you're fast and you beat them, they'll see it coming. It's so much more fun being the underdog.

I was trying to help the Cobalt get some more respect. Nobody is running their mouths except Cobalt owners, hence no respect.

Sure the car doesn't have the greatest street or magazine cred but there must be some word flying around about the ss/sc cuz pretty much no one even bothers to try to race me anymore, and I'm completely stock! And as for the whole type-s and cobalt battle go to the track and figure it out among yourselves who's better. I haven't raced an rsx myself, for some reason everytime i see one a girl is driving and goin 60 in the fast lane, lol. Oh well at least most are kind hot.

Sorry but respect is earned not given. It really has nothing to do with the car when it comes to respect but more so the owner.

ill have to disagree... my old car was an 01 camaro v6... it had 18" c6 machined/black replica rims giant tires in the back and a system that would rock the block... Tranny was going out and i hated that everythign was manual so i bought a new cobalt ss/sc, made tons of sense to me. Trade a bottom of the line camaro that looked pimp but wasnt in the best shape otherwise for a top of the line cobalt thats leather automatic everything (other then tranny) and faster then the old maro. Everyone i mean everyone thought i was crazy for getting a cobalt and selling that car. Lol now i drive what is know as a "girls" car so most people honestly have less respect for me... then again i dont care but thought id point out that the car does matter alot

to quicksilver...you will beat an rsx type s, without much difficulty. stock vs. light mods anyways.

Um...and to the topic question....my answer is that the cobalt isn't underrated, its just that most people see it as what you guys hate to admit...a cavalier. They don't know any better. So to them, they probably think it replaced the cavalier, it kinda looks similar to one, so it must not be much faster than one. The car is too new for its true potential to be known, up until a couple months ago, I'd never even seen an SC before, let alone knew anything about it. There are probably still tons of rumors floating around about what the cobalt truely is.
I don't know why all the magazines talk shit. Maybe its cause they've got lemons, or maybe its cause after beating the shit out of a bunch of cars, the cobalt didn't hold up as well. Or maybe its cause they all tested 05's that didn't have the kinks worked out of them yet.

lol, this thread is gonna get locked realllllll soon if you guys don't stop arguing. Also, goin back to what you said DS sure the cobalt replaced the cavalier, but the rsx replaced the integra and now both models have bit the dust. Cars come and go and yeah most likely i'll beat a rsx type s, but then again most likely a srt-4 will beat me. There's always a car better than the other.

hey i told them! lol

yep :lol:

lol just delete the random nonsense... im still interested in NJHK's responce

What's with these newbies running their mouths? This thread isn't about your egos guys. This is about the underappreciated Cobalt.

I agree that the Cobalt doesn't have a reputation for being fast. Use that to your advantage when possible. If people think you're fast and you beat them, they'll see it coming. It's so much more fun being the underdog.

Exactly!

Its like anything, Honda has been around for years in the compact cars. What company has the best V-8 power? Chevy Corvette, everyone knows that companies make a certain name for them selfs with certain products. Now that the cobalt is out its new and it replaced the caviler. Chevy has been out of the scene with tuner cars for a long time now. This just makes it even tougher for the cobalt to gain respect. Its just something that will get better with time. Look at the SRT-4, everyone called it a slow neon when it first came out and made fun of it. Its not hard at all to get a SRT-4 into the 12s. Everyone has there preference to what they like. The problem is people just don't have respect for others and what they like. So you like a honda, so what. So you like a ford, so what. Its about the common intrest in tunning and performance that everyone should be into. Not creating certain groups to hate on other groups. Ohh well, its something that has always been around. I have respect for everyone because you never know what they can and can't afford. I don't look down at those escort drivers. Anyways, yea I think the cobalt ss/sc is deff. looked at as a under dog. Jason Witfield proved that wrong and I'm sure there is more to come with super charger swaps and more after market products.

Soooooooo.....how bout them Bears?yeahhhh......

Soooooooo.....how bout them Bears?yeahhhh......

Da Bears! I hope they come back next year and win the super bowl! Want to see their defense destroy Manning!

Who you calling a little bitch?

So what is your mean machine car that is NA and can take us? I know for a fact that my car from a 40roll could hang with a elise stock. Cant pass him, but he wouldnt make a fool of me

So what is your mean machine car that is NA and can take us? I know for a fact that my car from a 40roll could hang with a elise stock. Cant pass him, but he wouldnt make a fool of me

When did I say anything about my car being NA???

And good job, another reason Cobalts are looked down upon, MOST (read: not all) of the owners ALWAYS bring up roll racing.

wow buddy, just wow.... why are u even here?!?! go back to your s2k forums.

p.s my lug nuts have more tourque then your car makes! Hoonnduhhh FTW!! :thumbsdow

^^^ hahaha:lol:

Anyways CGM whats wrong with roll racing. Thats the most common type of racing. Well for me anwyays, driving around and just go at it. And from a roll, driver modds are less important, so you can really see what the cars have to offer

oohhhh for all the smack your giving us, you have a freaking wrx. Dude news flash, same league car. And your no NA neither? I dont get it! and what is rice about a roll race??

^^^ agreed. I would like to run a half mile againt him. Then we can see who really has the power. And not jsut AWD for off the line traction. Guranteed your car would loose a half mile race againt a SS/SC

to late i think he already does! apparently his wrx IS God! :lol:

haha man I wish I could be cool and have a 4 door WRX to. and what about being rice, isnt you car made in Japan... and how would a SS/SC be rice? haha doesnt make any sense to me. And what about a half mile race, are you scared cuz all of that drivetrain loss will set-in by then?

Sub 10s with 2 turbos and RWD swap. Very impressive.

Turbo swap= low 12/high 11s with no other work done besides clutch. What all do you guys need for low 13s/high 12s??

Keep talking shit, still no respect being earned.

turbo swap plus uppipe, downpipe, cai, and tuning. Come in it's not as simple as swapping turbos. Don't fool yourself. I thought you were better then that?

As much damage as some of our guys are doing to the Cobalt community you are doing to the WRX community. Oh well atleast I know WRXers who are cool so I know not to judge all of them by you.

By the way roll racing is rice. lol Sorry guys but it's true.

turbo swap plus uppipe, downpipe, cai, and tuning. Come in it's not as simple as swapping turbos. Don't fool yourself. I thought you were better then that?

As much damage as some of our guys are doing to the Cobalt community you are doing to the WRX community. Oh well atleast I know WRXers who are cool so I know not to judge all of them by you.

By the way roll racing is rice. lol Sorry guys but it's true.



wtf? i didnt know victory was doing a RWD swap? or is that just one of those things this WRX fanboy threw out there?

Some of the magazines give it justice. Like R&t in the 10 best for under 30K they said it was underratted. But when you read artcials and they relate to the past tests of the cobalt it always seems like they forgett what it really drove like and just look up the old tests.

i honestly think gm messed up a lil the car shoulda had the stage 2 it should be stock like that. But it is very underated i love my car and really dont care what other people think. besides if you we all agreed on the best car there would be no point right?

yeap but think about it this way! Car comes under rated at 205hp, the insurance company thinks you have a 205HP car....next day you get the stage II installed at the dealer and voila....40 more HP and your still paying insurance on a 205HP car;)

GM under-rating this car was prolly the only way i was gonna be able to pay insurance
(17), if they put realistic numbers and if my insurance provider knew about stage upgrades id be screwed!

i honestly think gm messed up a lil the car shoulda had the stage 2 it should be stock like that. But it is very underated i love my car and really dont care what other people think. besides if you we all agreed on the best car there would be no point right?

How GM rated and priced the SS/SC, was very smart. And to offer such a simple way to upgrade (stage 2) is incredibly smart, they are doing an excellent job on making money off of Stage 2 upgrades, that could go to aftermarket companies.;) :cssNET:

yeap but think about it this way! Car comes under rated at 205hp, the insurance company thinks you have a 205HP car....next day you get the stage II installed at the dealer and voila....40 more HP and your still paying insurance on a 205HP car;)

That is one of the things to consider when purchasing a vehicle. I saw that someone mentioned triple figures etc.

I'm 44 years old and make triple figures. In all actuality I really could just go and buy the M3 I always wanted or the EVO I was considering. But when you read all of the published facts, weigh the research, and apply that to what you are looking for in a car, you just can't beat the Cobalt SS/SC.


Insurance is cheap.....I can invest more money elsewhere.
The car is cheap....I have money I can spend elsewhere like sending my son to college or tech school.
Love the looks of the car (doen't need a body kit or anything).
Most people really don't know how quick it really is.
Although fairly new to the market, aftermarket parts are cheap.
Engine, suspension and body is a breeze to work on and has great potential.
It gets (mine does according to my dic, get 28.3 mpg at an average of 51 mph)....I save some money in fuel.
The aftermarket will explode for the Ecotech in a few more years.
The money I invested or saved from not buying the M3 or EVO will be applied to my Cobalt when it is paid off (2-3 years).

I love the car, call it a Cavalier, whatever. I bought this car for the above mentioned reasons. It will be one of the cars I keep until I go to my grave.....and I'm going to mod it to the hilt in a few years. For now....it does just fine stock. It's not the fastest but faster than some. I will put in a stage II and maybe an exhaust this year. What I stated is all part of the plan. I'll ensure the SS/SC legacy.

lol just delete the random nonsense... im still interested in NJHK's responce

Well I wrote this to him in a PM but I'll post it up now...

The reason I said that was because I think people think because they own a certain car that might be different, more powerful, cooler or whatever reason that they deserve some type of respect for owning a car. I don't care if someone owns a 900 WHP Supra, if he's a total jackhole...I don't respect shit about him because he was blessed with more money to waste into a car. I respect someone who is a pure car enthusiast who drives a Geo Metro.

Problem is that I think some of the members are just expecting respect because they own something that isn't an Honda or an import or because it's supercharged and not turbocharged.

That's all I meant by it.

Well I wrote this to him in a PM but I'll post it up now...

The reason I said that was because I think people think because they own a certain car that might be different, more powerful, cooler or whatever reason that they deserve some type of respect for owning a car. I don't care if someone owns a 900 WHP Supra, if he's a total jackhole...I don't respect shit about him because he was blessed with more money to waste into a car. I respect someone who is a pure car enthusiast who drives a Geo Metro.
Problem is that I think some of the members are just expecting respect because they own something that isn't an Honda or an import or because it's supercharged and not turbocharged.

That's all I meant by it.


Hey my first car was a geo metro! I hated it, am i still a car enthusiast?

Hey my first car was a geo metro! I hated it, am i still a car enthusiast?

lol

The point was that it doesn't matter what car you drive but your mentality.

lol

The point was that it doesn't matter what car you drive but your mentality.

The best sentence in CSS.net history. Seriously that says it all folks. A car guy is a car guy, it doesn't matter what you drive and what you drive doesn't make you a car guy.

The best sentence in CSS.net history. Seriously that says it all folks. A car guy is a car guy, it doesn't matter what you drive and what you drive doesn't make you a car guy.

I <3 You

Finally someone gets it besides me...

if you wanna feel underrated, drive a Saturn

if you wanna feel underrated, drive a Saturn

LOL

That was a even better quote hahaha

hey is ur car a rl? i wonder how the ion would do vs my moms sc2... speculation says ull win but the sc2 is a hot car

Damn guys I guess I created a pretty sic thread. Thanks for all the support and replies! Long live the Cobalt!