We're considering going into production with these units. Stock diameter, much lighter. Exact specifications to be posted shortly. We're just curious about the kind of demand there might be for such a product for the LSJ.

Thanks,
JBP

http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/images/crankshaft pulley 3.1.jpg

http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/images/crankshaft pulley 3.jpg

If it was for an actual reasonable price I'm sure someone would buy it. Did I mention reasonable?

I thought it would throw the netural shafts off? I thought having a light weight crank pulley would throw EVERYTHING OFF

yeah i'd be interested..but u need better US vendors.....since you're just a distributer now.....or you need to tell CrateEngineDepot to feature your products on their site since they are a vendor.......Also, hows the 750hp build coming its been some time since an update on your site?........

Not too sure on pricing yet, we'll hit up with more information. Just tyring to get a little bit more information about the demand. I figure there is a demand since there's nothing out there.

Having a lighter pulley, stock diam. isn't going to damage anything.

Interested :twothumbs

Can I trade a busted set of Control Arm Bushings for the pulley? They were only on the car for 4 months before they broke.

the crank pulley in the cobalt is not a harmonic balancer. If it were a harmonic balancer you'd have issues with swapping it out, but because it is not, there shouldnt be any problems.

Interested as well...

Can I trade a busted set of Control Arm Bushings for the pulley? They were only on the car for 4 months before they broke.

Nope! But you can swamp them in for warranty exchange. ;)

Beck the crank pulley in the cobalt is not a harmonic balancer. If it were a harmonic balancer you'd have issues with swapping it out, but because it is not, there shouldnt be any problems.

Not entirely true. The crank pulley is a balancer on the LSJ. The crankshaft pulley we offer is balanced for the crankshaft. Therefore you can swap it out with our unit.

Someone already has a crank pulley for sale. Its like wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced for like 400 or something ridiculous like that. Nice to see people are still using NX!!!

id buy one but what well the gain be ?

Someone already has a crank pulley for sale. Its like wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy overpriced for like 400 or something ridiculous like that. Nice to see people are still using NX!!!

Thats probably the one for the L61. To my knowledge there isn't one for the LSJ.

id buy one but what well the gain be ?

The gain will be notice from the reduced inertia that the engine must overcome from a stand-still; This increases hole-shot performance. An exact gain at this time is speculative without a dyno test.

Thats probably the one for the L61. To my knowledge there isn't one for the LSJ.



The gain will be notice from the reduced inertia that the engine must overcome from a stand-still; This increases hole-shot performance. An exact gain at this time is speculative without a dyno test.

perhaps further testing should be done to gauge even better interest after numbers show an increase in gains using this product.

perhaps further testing should be done to gauge even better interest after numbers show an increase in gains using this product.

True. The pulley will be extensively tested before release. With complete dynos and a trial test run on my SS/SC. Just trying to see what interest this drums up.

well it whould make you rev faster hmm i might be interested.

I'd Image it to help a lot... especially for these guys running really small pulleys. If there are some good gains out there... yeah... I'd be interested. BUT, it's like everyone said... if the price is right.

If it's like the GM one and costs $500+... I wouldn't see too many people buying one. Probably nobody actually! Haha...

I would be interested for sure. After seeing how it worked on a test model will help me confirm for sure if it would be worth it or not. So really I think the following aspects would have to be touched.

1. Tested to make sure it is a safe reliable mod.
2. What kind of gains?
3. Price

The crankshaft pulley from GM that CED offers will not fit a LSJ 2.0 SS/SC. It's for the LE5 and L61. And yes, very expensive.

if its very inexpensive and makes good gains which idk how it would, maybe its a possibility, but not sure, and is probabaly also a pain in the ass times 782348293497 to change it

Some info I found:

underdrive crank pulleys on average can provide gains of 5 to 12 HP and 4 to 8 lbs.-ft. on normally aspirated engines and 8 to 16 HP and 8 to 18 lbs.-ft. on forced induction engines. Higher gains are possible. For example, a Nissan 300ZX twin-turbo saw gains as high as 37 HP and 45 lbs.- ft. on the dyno just by replacing the stock crank pulley

Power gains are obtained in two ways. First, and most important, is the weight loss. An average of 2.7 HP is gained from every pound lost off the crank shaft. 85% of our gains are from weight loss.

The rest of the gains are from underdriving, which accounts for about 15% of the total gains. We do not push underdriving beyond 20% for two important reasons. The main reason is to keep charging systems, air conditioning, power steering, and water pumps moving fast enough for every day driving. Second, not much horsepower is gained from extreme underdriving. In most applications all of the underdriving is done with the crank pulley, not the accessory pulleys. This is done so maximum weight loss can be achieved at the crank where most of the horsepower gains are found.

I've been crunching some numbers, we can make a run of these pulleys for a decent price. Just have to factor in material costs and we can come up with a MSRP price for our dealers soon. But yes, there's some decent gains to be had from this. Estimations around 7-9HP. Good mod for those who've done everything else....

I've been crunching some numbers, we can make a run of these pulleys for a decent price. Just have to factor in material costs and we can come up with a MSRP price for our dealers soon. But yes, there's some decent gains to be had from this. Estimations around 7-9HP. Good mod for those who've done everything else....

This is something that would be easy to change if your already doing a clutch/flywheel or axles. I wish it was out now I would buy it, this weekend I'm putting drive shop axles and clutch/flywheel in. Glad to get a 8-10whp gain from a pulley.

yeah i'd be interested..but u need better US vendors.....since you're just a distributer now.....or you need to tell CrateEngineDepot to feature your products on their site since they are a vendor.......Also, hows the 750hp build coming its been some time since an update on your site?........

you can hit us up for all your JBP needs, we have already sold to a lot of american customers!

send us an email for info.

info@usdautosports.com

update on this?

We've decided to make the prototype... Should have one ready for testing in 3-4 weeks.

Whoop! Any guess on the price range yet?

Whoop! Any guess on the price range yet?

Nope. The one-off prototype is about $900 though. :)

Errrr... $100 a whp?! No thanks, I'll wait.

^^what he said

im interesred

Errrr... $100 a whp?! No thanks, I'll wait.

Yup, it should come down to a very reasonable level under production. If I were to guess, I'd say $300 bucks or so. Again, total guess at this point.

i'm interested, had an Unorthodox Racing pulley on my old car and i definately felt a gain. If the price range was $200-$250 i'd definately buy it.

i want one...this + lightweight flywheel = faster accel... cant wait!!!

Well it looks like my car is going into storage soon, so we'll throw this one out to our testers for initial testing. First person to respond (PM (http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=8501) or email (info@jbodyperformance.com) only) within the GTA for local pick-up only gets a free crankshaft pulley when the prototype is developed... details to follow.

crap I wish I lived there. I'd definitely take you up on it. I have a lightweight flywheel I've been dying to put in when my stock clutch goes out as well. Flywheel's literally been sitting in storage for a year --but that damned stock clutch just won't go LOL. Guess I don't get on the throttle enough. I'll wait until this product has been tested and priced, and see if there'll be any group buys. :) I'm always one for safely squeezing a few extra ponies out. :) Best of luck with testing and production! I'm subscribing to this thread.

Also, I hate to be a stickler, but I do believe the underlined word in the post from your website below should be changed to 'increase':

JP0706 - JBP Crankshaft Pulley Stock Size
Price: [$CALL]
- Stock sized to maintain serpentine ratio.
- Lightweight to free up initial inertia resistance.

The JBP crankshaft pulley has been balanced for the crank, A great bolt-on mod for anyone needing to reduce "out-of-the-hole" performance. Get to your powerband quicker and decrease your 1/4 mile times.

crap I wish I lived there. I'd definitely take you up on it. I have a lightweight flywheel I've been dying to put in when my stock clutch goes out as well. Flywheel's literally been sitting in storage for a year --but that damned stock clutch just won't go LOL. Guess I don't get on the throttle enough. I'll wait until this product has been tested and priced, and see if there'll be any group buys. :) I'm always one for safely squeezing a few extra ponies out. :) Best of luck with testing and production! I'm subscribing to this thread.


Yes, I'm actually surprised there's no takers already! Free crank pulley, what more do you want. :)

There'll definitely be an initial release GB as soon as testing is done, but obviously not through us. We'll offer initial pricing discounts through our dealer network, where you can shop for the best pricing respectively. We're getting price quotes from our CNCers in the next couple days so everything is falling into place.

Also, I hate to be a stickler, but I do believe the underlined word in the post from your website below should be changed to 'increase':

We're on that.. ;)

I'm down for a $200~250 group buy. $300 is pushing a little high for me.

would you let me do it? I'll pay for shipping, and do a before and after dyno :D

We're looking for local guys, sorry.

its all good

Sounds like you guys are coming out with a lot of support for the LSJ. Nice, and keep going. Its very much appreciated! Just make your headers fit perfectly and we'll be good to go! :)

Keep up the good work JBP! :twothumbs

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.....just make your headers fit perfectly and we'll be good to go! :)

Keep up the good work JBP! :twothumbs

Yea about those headers.....

Yea about those headers.....

:lol:!!

Huh?! I couldn't hear ya! :lol::cssNET:

arent all the pulleys the same 2.2 2.4 and 2.0 if not whats the difference

Cool can't wait to see these :)

Sounds like you guys are coming out with a lot of support for the LSJ. Nice, and keep going. Its very much appreciated! Just make your headers fit perfectly and we'll be good to go! :)

Keep up the good work JBP! :twothumbs


Thanks for the kudos... and our header fits... It fits tight, but they fit.


arent all the pulleys the same 2.2 2.4 and 2.0 if not whats the difference

No they aren't... the mating snout and some other things too, however, they escape me at present.

I'm going to admit it...i'm not interested in this at all...sorry

Thanks for the kudos... and our header fits... It fits tight, but they fit.

Can you find me a person who actually got this to fit on their car? The only person i heard that actually got it to fit had it bumping against the firewall.

i want one for my 2.2 so count me in if it will work or you guys can make one jbp proudcts are top notch i def want one

Can you find me a person who actually got this to fit on their car? The only person i heard that actually got it to fit had it bumping against the firewall.

x2 to this. I'd like to see it on one of their test cars. :)

hmm might be interested for the built motor.

We're looking for local guys, sorry.

Local guys only, I guess that counts me out. :(:cry::(
Oh wait my car is in the GTA :lol::lol:

Can you find me a person who actually got this to fit on their car? The only person i heard that actually got it to fit had it bumping against the firewall.

It doesn't hit the firewall, period. Regardless, I'm not going to hunt down past customers to prove a point. Also, this thread is about Crankshaft pulleys, so stay to the topic at hand. PM all other other topics.

hmm might be interested for the built motor.

No problem, let us know what your looking for power-wise... Contact your closest JBP Dealer for assistance.

i want one for my 2.2 so count me in if it will work or you guys can make one jbp proudcts are top notch i def want one


Hmm, I believe the 2.2 is covered with a Billet steel unit high priced and available from GM. and I think there's an aluminum unit from another manufacturer, although I could be mistaken.


Local guys only, I guess that counts me out.
Oh wait my car is in the GTA

You sir, your's is going to have to be made from Boron or Magnesium. :)

I'd be down. And being as I just bought a used truck so I can now play with the Cobalt, I would be very interested depending on gains and what not.

id like to have the jbp cp the z-spec alum pulley is non balanced the gm and the fluiddyne ones are way expensive

How hard would this be to put on?

1) remove accessory belt, 2) remove passenger tire, 3) remove splash shield, 4) install puller, remove old pulley, 5) install JBP pulley in reverse.

should be it..

id like to have the jbp cp the z-spec alum pulley is non balanced the gm and the fluiddyne ones are way expensive

Fluidyne makes one for the 2.0?

lightweight pullies are amazing, this could very well be a spring mod for me depending on its price and date of release

Fluidyne makes one for the 2.0?

no, fluidyne doesnt make one for the 2.0L. no one does, yet.

this pulley sounds interesting to me since I like simple bolt-on upgrades.

I am interested to hear what the test part weighs compared to stock, will it be the same size ? or slightly smaller? and what sort of gains to expect (if any).

do upgrades like this make a measurable gain on dinky lil engines like ours?

Hi Andrew, long time no read. Did you just say little dinky???:lol:

Sorry Mev;)

this pulley sounds interesting to me since I like simple bolt-on upgrades.

I am interested to hear what the test part weighs compared to stock, will it be the same size ? or slightly smaller? and what sort of gains to expect (if any).

do upgrades like this make a measurable gain on dinky lil engines like ours?

Its hard to judge what we're expecting HP wise. Weight wise, we're looking at 2.44lbs according a computer mass model for our prototype. This shaved about 1 and 3 quarter pounds off the stock weight.

We may shave a full 2 pounds with the production units, depending on whether or not we can attain a completely balanced piece. The lighter it is, the less dampening it will perform. As you reduce weight, you lose the ability to properly counter balance against harmonic vibration. So the JBP production unit weight and drill points will probably be the same as the prototype.


Hi Andrew, long time no read. Did you just say little dinky???

Sorry Mev

Rod, you're always my comedic relief during this sleepless build of yours. ;)

A lighter crankshaft pulley will definitly helps, I might be in depending on the price. Thanks.

Its hard to judge what we're expecting HP wise. Weight wise, we're looking at 2.44lbs according a computer mass model for our prototype. This shaved about 1 and 3 quarter pounds off the stock weight.

We may shave a full 2 pounds with the production units, depending on whether or not we can attain a completely balanced piece. The lighter it is, the less dampening it will perform. As you reduce weight, you lose the ability to properly counter balance against harmonic vibration. So the JBP production unit weight and drill points will probably be the same as the prototype.



Rod, you're always my comedic relief during this sleepless build of yours. ;)

Is it going to be any smaller, ie underdriving the accessories? If so, how much?

Is it going to be any smaller, ie underdriving the accessories? If so, how much?

no, it will be stock sized. No underdriving, just weight reduction.

haha!! trust Rod to be reading between the lines!
sheesh! he misses my entire message and fixates on the lil dinky!
praytell what is ur fascination with lil dinkies Rod? I hope Matty isn't lurking around this thread otherwise it's about to go straight to hell in a handbasket once he gets his paws on the lil dinky!


ahem...If a lightened flywheel can cause dampening issues, will that reduce max rpm limits?

Sorry Andrew, I have never had my paws on a Lil dinky. ;)

no, it will be stock sized. No underdriving, just weight reduction.

Good, thanks. I am a little curious to see what kinda gains this will see.

So realisticly would you be able to get this pulley for $150? If you guys as a company could get it done so many people would buy it from you. You have a potential customer right here if you can.

Sorry Andrew, I have never had my paws on a Lil dinky. ;)

Even when you go to the bathroom????
I guess we will have to ask Crystal to verify this. :) :lol:

i looked at my stock cp and an lsj cp and theyre pretty much the same and my buddy put the fluidyne cp on his redline so i think they are all the same

i looked at my stock cp and an lsj cp and theyre pretty much the same and my buddy put the fluidyne cp on his redline so i think they are all the same

what engine do you have and can you show me the listing for the fluidyne unit?

Even when you go to the bathroom????


Nope.

And you are not going to bait me into wrecking this thread even if you are the master.

The crank pulleys are not the same on all 3 engines.

Doesnt really state the size engine. but this could be one.

http://www.racingsolution.com/showparts2.asp?Part_Num=1248&Function=DisplayPart



That pic of that unit is incorrect for the LSJ. The LSJ has a keyway and a long snout (as in our pics of the first unit).

However, I did stumble onto RKsports' unit: http://www.rksport.com/main/part_detail.asp?itemid=552&appid=139&mdid=2&catid=3


This one looks awfully similar to our drawings. Without having a 2.2L or 2.4L crank pulley in hand, I can't tell if the dimensions are the exact. Regardless, This unit has a larger diameter than stock, which we aren't too keen on manufacturing.

Again, maybe the 2.2/2.4L one may work..??? I just don't know for sure.

But a crank pulley is supposed to have some sort of dampner in it to relieve stress on the engine. Solid billet pulleys can cost horsepower, as was proven by Fluidyne, even from the stock unit. A good quality aftermarket dampner will allow more power output safely though.

would we have to get a new belt.

no, it will be stock sized. No underdriving, just weight reduction.



Whats the weight reduction?

they are all the same i looked today at my buddys ss/sc and mine they are identical soo this will work for the 2.2-2.4 or the 2.0 just thought id let the good ppl at jbp know

But a crank pulley is supposed to have some sort of dampner in it to relieve stress on the engine. Solid billet pulleys can cost horsepower, as was proven by Fluidyne, even from the stock unit. A good quality aftermarket dampner will allow more power output safely though.

True, the stock unit has rubber in it as a damper and is also balanced. Ours will not have rubber as it will be solid, but it will be balanced.

Whats the weight reduction?

Total weight should be around 2.5lbs.

would we have to get a new belt.

No.


they are all the same i looked today at my buddys ss/sc and mine they are identical soo this will work for the 2.2-2.4 or the 2.0 just thought id let the good ppl at jbp know

Hmm, Looked at versus measured. I think they might be the same mounting, but at different diameters.. can you measure any of the units?

they are DIFFERENT.....
i pulled this from crateenginedepot .com site...
there is a underdrive pulley for the other motor but not the 2.0l supercharged motor...\/read


Ecotec Billet Crankshaft Pulley 88958631

"This billet crankshaft power pulley has a reduced diameter to minimize the horsepower robbing drag of the alternator and air conditioning compressor.
This crank pulley would NOT fit the 2.0L LSJ. The naturally aspirated ECOtec engines (L61 and LE5) have a 6-bolt crank, while the boosted ECOtec engines (LSJ and LNF) have an 8-bolt crank. The GMPP crank pulley is made for a 6-bolt crank. The purpose of the billet crank pulley is to withstand the rigors of racing applications that involve extended time on the rev limiter." from crateenginedepot .com

they are DIFFERENT.....
i pulled this from crateenginedepot .com site...
there is a underdrive pulley for the other motor but not the 2.0l supercharged motor...\/read


Ecotec Billet Crankshaft Pulley 88958631

"This billet crankshaft power pulley has a reduced diameter to minimize the horsepower robbing drag of the alternator and air conditioning compressor.
This crank pulley would NOT fit the 2.0L LSJ. The naturally aspirated ECOtec engines (L61 and LE5) have a 6-bolt crank, while the boosted ECOtec engines (LSJ and LNF) have an 8-bolt crank. The GMPP crank pulley is made for a 6-bolt crank. The purpose of the billet crank pulley is to withstand the rigors of racing applications that involve extended time on the rev limiter." from crateenginedepot .com

That doesn't make sense at all... There's one huge M14 or M15 bolt that press-fits the damper onto the snout of the crankshaft.

Yeah there's a diff between the L61 and LSJ crank on the other side, where the flywheel bolts up, but that has nothing to do with the front of the engine where the damper bolts up....

yeah, i will ask my friend. he can get on the mechanic website to see what the difference is... and i'll posted it on here, if the site will let me.

K guys the lsj pulley is 6 groove and the other ones have 5.

K guys the lsj pulley is 6 groove and the other ones have 5.

duh. :lol: good call. Thats the difference!

Alright folks, the price is in.. The set MSRP price is: $349CDN Thats the recommended price for our dealers to price around... (Typically they'll sell for less.)

We're offering our dealers an immediate incentive pricing for the inital product release. Which means, they'll be much much lower than the MSRP. Dealers, feel free to post your GBs on your websites repspectively!

sweet i might have to get one of these.

Ouch. A little steep in price. I was hoping for quite less in price. Well guess you got to pay to play.

thats the MSRP price. Dealers will sell for less. However, we are promoting this new piece with a huge discount offered to dealers, so the final price will more than likely be less than $300 depending on dealer pricing.

I would love to see how much a typical dealer would be pricing this piece.

any dyno's yet

no, still waiting for our one off prototype..

in $USD ????

It's about 355 i think. Around that. But keep in mind this is just MSRP. Hopefully it is significantlly more cheaper.

any updates on these???

thanks

we'll have our prototype in 3-4 weeks.

woot woot

Just got the first two proto-types. They're going on two cars for testing. The units shown will be balanced first and the keyway for the crank broached. they are shown with a specific case-hardening for extra durability.

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/8/5/0/1/IMG_5002.jpg

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/8/5/0/1/IMG_5006.jpg

looking good

cant wait to see the dyno results!!! good work guys!!!

Looking good. Which one is mine ;)

Pre-Production release pricing now available! Contact our dealers for details!

Dealers List Here (http://www.jbodyperformance.com)

Dyno numbers??

Working on `em... We've got two cars that are going to boot around with the pulleys for a week or so prior to doing dyno runs. We want a fair bit of testing done before we head to the dyno.

Well we want a fair bit of results before we start paying. :twothumbs

Well we want a fair bit of results before we start paying. :twothumbs

Word up.:)

The JBP crankshaft pulley final numbers are in with regards to pulley weight. The final weight is 2.1lbs, vs. the 4.26lbs of the stock cast iron unit. We're waiting on our second tester to outfit their vehicle with our pulley. Many dealers are stoked about this product and are going to be offering excellent prices on this unit. Dynos are just around the corner.

sweet im getting excited.

well we got the low down from our first tester... we were hoping for more, but achieved a 5whp gain on the new pulley, this is a relatively stock car with cold air intake and exhaust mods. after about two weeks of trials and testing we are ready to go into production with this unit! We'll also anticipate our second tester will get better results as his car is more modified.

good to hear, now i want one. how much are they goin to be priced at?

interested if its priced like something as simple as a pulley should be (im thinking not much more than a 50 dollar pulley from nate to get me to buy one but what do i know)

lookon creat engines depot they have them for sale.

Interesting..... still debating if i want it or not tho

great price 350 bucks? I think not

great price 350 bucks? I think not

a couple dealers have GBs going on... contact them directly.

you test it on the modded cobalt yet

a couple dealers have GBs going on... contact them directly.

How do I know which dealers have GBs?

Is it just a pulley or is it a harmonic dampener/pulley?

great price 350 bucks? I think not
Yeah what he said. $350 for 5hp :thumbsdow
And that's just the part. Then add labor.

If you guys are only going to do one mod, it better not be a crank pulley.
If you do more mods that pulley will help.
I find you kids always whine about price but 99% of you whiners never buy anything anyways. :rolleyes:

If you guys are only going to do one mod, it better not be a crank pulley.
If you do more mods that pulley will help.
I find you kids always whine about price but 99% of you whiners never buy anything anyways. :rolleyes:

Pretty true. The thing about this mod though is it allows the engine to work less. What's better then that? That 5hp is wasted by a pulley. This pulley frees up that wasted hp.

If you guys are only going to do one mod, it better not be a crank pulley.
If you do more mods that pulley will help.
I find you kids always whine about price but 99% of you whiners never buy anything anyways. :rolleyes:You need to check who your talking to before you go spouting off. :nono:
I know the forum is full of them, but make damn sure you're not talking about me, KID.;)

Pretty true. The thing about this mod though is it allows the engine to work less. What's better then that? That 5hp is wasted by a pulley. This pulley frees up that wasted hp.You can do that with an oil change, and it won't cost $350+.

How do I know which dealers have GBs?

Contact USD Autosports for a GB price, also Crate Engine Depot.

we will be tacking contact soon with most of the people who responded in this thread to find out their interest. we will be offering a better price then what has been indicated already.

for any infos regarding GB, please contact me by PM or at the shop at info@usdautosports.com.

thanks.

joe.
USD Autosports

You can do that with an oil change, and it won't cost $350+.

What kind of shit comment is that? An oil change will only give you that boost in hp for a little while whereas this will give you 5hp all the time.
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/2/7/7/3/lolcat-funny-picture-moderator1.jpg

What kind of shit comment is that? An oil change will only give you that boost in hp for a little while whereas this will give you 5hp all the time.
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/1/2/7/7/3/lolcat-funny-picture-moderator1.jpg

:twothumbs:twothumbs What he said^:)

First production units to arrive next week! We'll post pics of the batch as soon as we get `em

how come so much for a lightweight pulley? my cousins legacy gt lightweight crank pulley was like 150

if we could make a run of 1000 and sell that many, then our dealers would be able to sell them for that price... Unfortunately, with the LSJ market production numbers don't dictate more than 50 units at a time.

and what would i have to do to be a test vehicle? my car has a crap load of mods, so if you wanna see what this product can do on a modded LSJ

any updates??? this plus a light weight flywheel = quicker acceleration!!

yeah any updates?

This product is released... Check your dealers for pricing!

(or purchase directly (http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/PartDetails.php?partId=706&catId=706&catName=JP0706) from JBP @ $350 (one time offer))

where/ who are the dealers??

Crate Engine Depot is a dealer. :twothumbs

I want to know how much it made on a modded motor, stock was 5hp, whats a modded one?

still have yet to do modded LSJ. Hopefully in a couple weeks..

Im buying it either way

Im buying it either way

what mods do you have?

aem intake, ttr motor mount, ca trans mounts, 2.9" pulley, 60's, custom tune, gmpp header, 2.5" catless downpipe, 2.5" magnaflow exhaust, g85 package, -1 stage colder ngk bkr7e plugs.
looking for a test vehicle? :-)

aem intake, ttr motor mount, ca trans mounts, 2.9" pulley, 60's, custom tune, gmpp header, 2.5" catless downpipe, 2.5" magnaflow exhaust, g85 package, -1 stage colder ngk bkr7e plugs.
looking for a test vehicle? :-)

Yup, we got another tester. :cool:

I wish you needed autobahn testers

i will test on my car for a decent price :), my mods are 2.8, 2.6 pullies, 60's, BCP tune, 2 step colder plugs, dual pass, cobra h/e, stage 2+ clutch, lightweight flywheel, zzp downpipe, corsa catback, fujita cai, ingalls etd.

let me know

i will test on my car for a decent price :), my mods are 2.8, 2.6 pullies, 60's, BCP tune, 2 step colder plugs, dual pass, cobra h/e, stage 2+ clutch, lightweight flywheel, zzp downpipe, corsa catback, fujita cai, ingalls etd.

let me know

we only need a small base of testers. unfortunately metallic beat you to the gun.. :( we got our stock car dyno, now its time to see what a modified one will do.

dam, let me know if that falls through

can i order a larger diameter crank pulley?

why would you want the crank take longer to turn?

why would you want the crank take longer to turn?

u could run a larger crank pulley, with the stock sc pulley, and make more boost than stock. it wont take longer to turn, it will just cover a larger area of the belt. aka sleeper

^^^ ...mister, "thinks he knows all!" ..... lol jk
i want to know the same thing??? if we can get a larger pulley for the crank and lightweight.

on a supercharged vehicle.. a larger crank pulley is optimal..

Could the JBP crankshaft pulley be used with the new TVS supercharger?

sorry guys, we've only had a run of 50 units done at stock diameter... There's no larger diameter unit in existence.

TVS Supercharger? Can you enlighten me on that one.

Any plans on making one for the L61? Id have to sell a nut to buy the GMPP one.

sorry guys, we've only had a run of 50 units done at stock diameter... There's no larger diameter unit in existence.

TVS Supercharger? Can you enlighten me on that one.

New generation supercharger from eaton.

Any plans on making one for the L61? Id have to sell a nut to buy the GMPP one.

no need for us to make one as there's a bunch of L61s available from many manufacturers... Should fit.

New generation supercharger from eaton.

Thanks.

TVS supercharger

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=91586

FYI: We're Sold OUT!!! Anyone waiting for a pulley, next batch shall be ready for our dealers next week!

Restocked on MONDAY!!!!

Psst, check out the second restocking MSRP! Sale Ends February! Your Welcome. ;)

LINK!! (http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/PartDetails.php?partId=706&catId=706&catName=JP0706)

*bump* latest product pics up!

What kind of work/tools involved in swapping this?

Can it be done in a home garage or does it have to be taken to a shop?

What kind of work/tools involved in swapping this?

Can it be done in a home garage or does it have to be taken to a shop?

Its really easy. You technically don't need a pulley puller, they just slide out of the ECOTEC. The essential breakdown is:


Take Passenger side wheel off
Take Serpentine Belt off
Take old pulley off
Install new pulley


Easy? :)

is the new price the price im paying you thursday?

yup, you can pay that amount too metallic. :cool:

i might have to get one of these, and install it on my car, imma have so much lightweight on my crank, JBP the product looks great

i might have to get one of these, and install it on my car, imma have so much lightweight on my crank, JBP the product looks great

thanks!

anyone dyno one of these with a modded cobalt ss/sc?

JBP when does this sale price end?

anyone dyno one of these with a modded cobalt ss/sc?

no but hopefully i could get one for everyone when i order mine

JBP when does this sale price end?



no but hopefully i could get one for everyone when i order mine

that'll be great :twothumbs

anyone dyno one of these with a modded cobalt ss/sc?

Nope, metallic is receiving his Thursday.. we'll find out them as he is our modded tester.


JBP when does this sale price end?

Sale ends Feb. 29th!

that'll be great :twothumbs

and i got a pretty heafty list of mods

Nope, metallic is receiving his Thursday.. we'll find out them as he is our modded tester.



Sale ends Feb. 29th!

BEAUTIFUL!!! :twothumbs

gives me some time to save up

no but hopefully i could get one for everyone when i order mine


Some dealers do not frequent this site, so they may quote you the old MSRP or close to it. Just tell them to refer to our website for the up-to-date MSRP pricing..

can i order right off the site or no?

can i order right off the site or no?

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can i order right off the site or no?

I was going to ask the same question.

As soon as I get mine in im going to try and have it dynoed the week of so it shouldnt be too long for you guys! Well worth it either way. JBP is a great company to deal with, theyve been around since I had my Cavlaier before my cobalt 3 years ago and back then they were paving the way.

As soon as I get mine in im going to try and have it dynoed the week of so it shouldnt be too long for you guys! Well worth it either way. JBP is a great company to deal with, theyve been around since I had my Cavlaier before my cobalt 3 years ago and back then they were paving the way.

I too have a fond appreciation for JBP.:cool:

I too have a fond appreciation for JBP.:cool:

I would hope you would Rod. Most of your car is only being built from them. :lol:

*bump* for an exclusive product!

how much was it again? i dont feel like going through 10pgs

how much was it again? i dont feel like going through 10pgs

MSRP and details here (http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/PartDetails.php?partId=706&catId=706&catName=JP0706)... (Dealers may sell for less).

finally


interested!

ouch, thats not cheap lol

Was interested until i saw the price.

ouch, thats not cheap lol

Was interested until i saw the price.
Before you guys whine about the price, you need to do some homework first.
Check out this link for the 2.2/2.4 billet crankshaft pulley at double JBP's price. http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Ecotec-Billet-Crankshaft-Pulley-88958631-P330C135.aspx

i wasnt complaning, i'd still buy one but i didnt know it was going to cost what it does

was there any significant gains on this pulley that you see on your car(JBP) other than the interia overcome?

i wasnt complaning, i'd still buy one but i didnt know it was going to cost what it does

That's cool.
When you consider this pulley is bolted directly to your crank and powers everything else on the serpentine system, a quality, sturdy, usually not cheap, part is a must.;)

well when i bought pulleys for my old car from Steeda they were 130. so i was expecting it to be somewhere around that price, however the cars are 2 different beasts

JBP FTW, nice parts, i wanna order mine asap!!

If this helps a stock car to gain 5whp... I'm VERY curious as to what it'll do for a 2.8" or smaller pullied car! You guys need to get that dyno done PRONTO!

ill have it dynoed for you guys as soon as i receive it. Ordering today. Will be on a 2.7" pulley

Before you guys whine about the price, you need to do some homework first.
Check out this link for the 2.2/2.4 billet crankshaft pulley at double JBP's price. http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Ecotec-Billet-Crankshaft-Pulley-88958631-P330C135.aspx

This, and the fact that we did two limited runs of 50 pcs. Which means high production costs. Plus in comparison to the unit on CED, it is lighter and meant for a the street AND strip. Plus this unit is stronger than the stock unit, and while not billet steel, will survive high RPM endurance runs.

When Metallic does the dyno, I'm sure it's gonna show some serious power gains.

i wasnt complaning, i'd still buy one but i didnt know it was going to cost what it does

Thats cool... :cool:

was there any significant gains on this pulley that you see on your car(JBP) other than the interia overcome?


i mentioned above that the pulley is stronger than the stock unit, it has been case-hardened for longevity. It as you mentioned has a reduction in initial interia over-come, and it has a nice wow factor when you look at it. :cool: The astute modifier will find that we've correct the positioning of the belt by about 1.5~1.7mm by offsetting the position of the best slightly.. But ppl don't really care about that.

JBP FTW, nice parts, i wanna order mine asap!!

Thanks! More stuff on the way!

We did an install on a customers car over the weekend. I'm sure some of you would love to see pics of the pulley installed:



STOCK PULLEY ON VEHICLE

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/8/5/0/1/dsc01083.jpg



JBP LIGHTENED PULLEY ON VEHICLE

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/8/5/0/1/dsc01085.jpg

thats sick!!! i want one so badly, too bad my uncle went on vaca, but thats ok my other job i upped the hours hopefully to get alot of MONEY!!

oo and hopeing the super bowl brings me money

That looks good in the engine bay.

We did an install on a customers car over the weekend. I'm sure some of you would love to see pics of the pulley installed:



STOCK PULLEY ON VEHICLE

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/8/5/0/1/dsc01083.jpg



JBP LIGHTENED PULLEY ON VEHICLE

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/8/5/0/1/dsc01085.jpg

Time for Ed to wash the salt of the bottom of his car. ;)
Are there any other options as far as colour for the pulley?

Time for Ed to wash the salt of the bottom of his car. ;)
Are there any other options as far as colour for the pulley?

I doubt it... run of 50... probably identical, to cut down on costs. Glad to see you still designing new parts for us though, JBP! If I ever get more money (lol poor) you can bet I will buy some stuff from you guys and all the other vendors that continue to support us LSJ'ers! :cssNET:

is it hard to change out?
and what about all the other pulleys on the car, would it be benefical to have the other ones lightened?

its not hard at all to change, take off pass tire, take out lower fender liner, push down the tensioner, unbolt the crank pulley, take it off, put new one, put bolt back, put everything back together and enjoy

:)

thats sick!!! i want one so badly, too bad my uncle went on vaca, but thats ok my other job i upped the hours hopefully to get alot of MONEY!!

oo and hopeing the super bowl brings me money

thanks!


That looks good in the engine bay.

I agree.



Are there any other options as far as colour for the pulley?

I doubt it... run of 50... probably identical, to cut down on costs.

Thanks exactly the reason why UmeNNis. There's no other colour available except for black.. Sorry Rod.


is it hard to change out?

its not hard at all to change, take off pass tire, take out lower fender liner, push down the tensioner, unbolt the crank pulley, take it off, put new one, put bolt back, put everything back together and enjoy

Coblt ss super, says it all! We can bang it off in under 20 min. Lightened and ready to go!


and what about all the other pulleys on the car, would it be benefical to have the other ones lightened?

Yes, however, the remaining pulleys are already light HDPE plastic except for the alternator pulley. So that means that we're going to come out with an alternator pulley. :)

should we expect around the same price for the other pulleys as well? I am interested in the crankshaft pulley but what can we expect for the others?

should we expect around the same price for the other pulleys as well? I am interested in the crankshaft pulley but what can we expect for the others?

I have no idea on pricing for the alternator pulley. Its in a concept phase right now... where as drawings aren't even made. To speculate, I'd say for sure it'll be under $100 bucks MSRP. It won't need to be made from a 10 lbs. chunk of aluminum as the crankshaft pulley is made from and will require HALF the machining of the crank pulley.

At this point, we've considered the alternator pulley and would like to see if a increased RPM unit would interest the public.

I'd be more interested in a stock size pulley, as opposed to an overdrive.

So being as I don't feel like reading threw all these pages... cliff notes any1?

I just found it on the CED site.... j/w how much lighter then the stock one it was, and if any tests have been done yet. I might pick one up today from CED depending on my mood later lol

At this point, we've considered the alternator pulley and would like to see if a increased RPM unit would interest the public.

ill take one :)

So being as I don't feel like reading threw all these pages... cliff notes any1?

I just found it on the CED site.... j/w how much lighter then the stock one it was, and if any tests have been done yet. I might pick one up today from CED depending on my mood later lol

i think someone did get one but not sure if they tested yet, imma be ordering mine next week, and i have a pretty good amount of mods so i can test on my car too

So being as I don't feel like reading threw all these pages... cliff notes any1?

I just found it on the CED site.... j/w how much lighter then the stock one it was, and if any tests have been done yet. I might pick one up today from CED depending on my mood later lol

The JBP unit is about 965g. The stock unit is 1710g.

is the alternator pulley you are making just going to be the same size and lighter or different size
i am interested in both of them...
Group Buy maybe, just a suggestion

is the alternator pulley you are making just going to be the same size and lighter or different size
i am interested in both of them...
Group Buy maybe, just a suggestion

It will be lighter, but the diameter is open for discussion.

22 Days left in the sale.

I'd rather see a lightened pulley package w/ both the Crank and Alt pulleys, stock sized, but lightened. That's the kind of product match-up I would buy...

I'd rather see a lightened pulley package w/ both the Crank and Alt pulleys, stock sized, but lightened. That's the kind of product match-up I would buy...

I think that's what I waiting for... if JBP releases a package deal in a few months, I'd for sure be all over it...

Amen brotha'...

me too

x4!!!

Considering we dont' even have drawings for the alternator pulley, It's gonna be quite some time before we come out with that unit. It's pretty simplistic and will definitely be under $100 bucks.

So just hang tight, until we actually come out with it, then we'll work a package deal. In the meantime, we're gonna hang with the introductory price on the LSJ crank pulley for the remainder of Feb. and then the price goes up!

Sale Ends in less than 11 days!

I KNOW!!! ahhh no money!!!

5 days left!

FYI, the crank bolt should not be re-used like JBP showed. That is a stretch bolt that needs TQ'd then stretched another 120 degrees IIRC. You can probably get away with it, but not recommended.

FYI, the crank bolt should not be re-used like JBP showed. That is a stretch bolt that needs TQ'd then stretched another 120 degrees IIRC. You can probably get away with it, but not recommended.

Where did we "show" this? It says in the instructions supplied with the pulley to reuse a new bolt. 90% of the people are going to disregard the instructions and re-use the existing bolt anyway.

I was just going by the pictures I saw posted earlier. Stock crank bolts are silver. New ones that GM gives you are black. Just looked like the bolt was re-used.

Thanks to all who purchased their pulley's on sale!

Redo it :(

Got the pulley for my DD Cobalt and it goes on tomorrow. Thanks Mev:D

Redo it :(

sorry, not for a while from JBP.. I'd push a dealer to do a GB.


Got the pulley for my DD Cobalt and it goes on tomorrow. Thanks Mev

Enjoy `er... ;)

I swear to god you guys are annoying.. ;)

We've gotten around 20+ emails about redoing the sale... So as with fashion dictates, we'll open this up again. Except this time, with JBP style, we'll do a big batch of `em

Drawings are done, no welders to back log, just one week from the CNC'ers to anodizing and then we ship. This time, we're going to make a bunch and pass the deals onward! By a bunch, yes, another 200 units.

Price? Cheap... $125.
Sale Ends: May 15th

Purchase from here: http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/PartDetails.php?partId=706&catId=706&catName=JP0706


Enjoy!!

subscribed... will be getting one of these.... how long will it take to get one after we order?

I swear to god you guys are annoying.. ;)

We've gotten around 20+ emails about redoing the sale... So as with fashion dictates, we'll open this up again. Except this time, with JBP style, we'll do a big batch of `em

Drawings are done, no welders to back log, just one week from the CNC'ers to anodizing and then we ship. This time, we're going to make a bunch and pass the deals onward! By a bunch, yes, another 200 units.

Price? Cheap... $125. Sale Ends: May 15th

Purchase from here: http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/PartDetails.php?partId=706&catId=706&catName=JP0706


Enjoy!!

I need to return mine and get in on this cheap price ;)

I'm in if its $125!! lol I'll buy it tomorrow if thats the price! lol

I love you. :D

I don't understand why JBP can't DYNO a car, put the damn thing on, and DYNO it again.
What's so difficult? Give the customers what they're looking for.

I don't understand why JBP can't DYNO a car, put the damn thing on, and DYNO it again.
What's so difficult? Give the customers what they're looking for.

this was dyno'd... 5whp, stock car.

I don't understand why JBP can't DYNO a car, put the damn thing on, and DYNO it again.
What's so difficult? Give the customers what they're looking for.

this was dyno'd... 5whp, stock car.

And I imagine that number would increase exponentially depending on the size of the S/C pulley.

aahhh flip it! I got paid today so I'll buy it this weekend! I can't see it being to to hard to put on...

Are there any vibrations showing up on the test cars?

^i would like to know also...

nope.. been months, no problems. Also, note that the L61 had aluminum pulleys for years now without any ill effects.

JBP, is this sale set up like ship as the orders come in or shipping all orders after May 15th when the sale ends?

all ship as soon as their made.. which should take about 5-7 days!

NOTE: This does fit the LE5 engine as well as the LSJ

anyone else have this installed with hp gains beside JBP?

UPDATE: All 200 pulleys are made. All current orders have been shipped...

Purchasers post your comments!

Prospective buyers, what are you waiting for?? We're stocked ready to go!

This is for the LSJ right? If so I'll pick it up thisweekend.

This is for the LSJ right? If so I'll pick it up thisweekend.

For the LSJ, fits all ECOTEC. (LSJ, L61, LE5, LNF)

Sounds good to me! Tomorrow morning its mine!

For the LSJ, fits all ECOTEC. (LSJ, L61, LE5, LNF)

Fits all ECOTEC...with no modification?

Bought one just now.

38 dollars to ship a pulley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you gotta figure tho its coming from canada. they get the same poop end of the stick when they buy stuff from us...

So are we not supposed to reuse the stock bolt for the pulley? If not, where do I get a new one?

i also would like to know this?