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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pnshmntMMA
2009 SS owners manual says NO LESS than 91 octane. most premium is 93 at least where i live. i dont know if it does me any good, but i do 93 anyway...it makes me feel better for some reason haha. dumbshit dealer filled me up with 87 when i got it in may. all they know is oh thats a chevy with 4 tires. thats it. i dont want to make anyone cry but the other day i got my oil changed at the dealer Fox Chevrolet in timonium...the salesman in there walks up when i was lookin at the new SS Camaro, and goes so what do you think about the new corvette? i looked over at a Z06 they had and i said its nice, he goes no this one. and yes he was completely serious.
They tried to tell me my Cobalt had a Honda motor in it. I looked at the guy, laughed and said "In that case, NOT interested."
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rambotk3
I never really thought about it, but lol my mom was saying that it was all the same because you only see one tanker come to fill up, leading her to believe that it is all unleaded. What really happens for them to get premium?
you should disassociate yourself from them
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Premium is unleaded though....
Unleaded = Without Lead.

So technically,
Deisel, Regular, Plus, Premium
and Jet Fuels are all unleaded.

AvGas, used for aircraft piston engines
DOES contain lead. Most common form of
that is 100ll 100 Octane, Low Lead.

Octane rateing simply (its alot more complicated)
but simply its the fuels abilty to resist detonation.
Detonation is a sudden explosion of the fuel/air
mixture when its compressed.
Deisel and Jet fuels are very low octaine. Mostly because
of how a deisel engine works. (Jet fuel and desial are so similar
they are prety much enterchangable)

-Jonathan
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Meh, E85 FTW! Now THAT is a definite fuel you can't just swap around. All the others, if you don't run the car hard, can be used w/o damage to the car untiul you fill up w/ 91 or better next tank.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:14 AM
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I HATE THIS! My mom ALWAYS puts regular gas in my car when I'm away at school for the week. It pisses me off.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by INDColtsFan18
I HATE THIS! My mom ALWAYS puts regular gas in my car when I'm away at school for the week. It pisses me off.
Keep a bottle of octane booster in the car then.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sdmws6
Keep a bottle of octane booster in the car then.
octane boost does NOTHING lol
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Octane boost works just fine, its 99.9% kerosene and helps prevent pre-ignition, I had to use it in my motorcycle when they ran out of fuel in Alberta (couldn't find mid/premium for a while). Threw in half a bottle of Octane booster and i didn't hear any pinging for the 250km trip.

Personally, I wouldn't use it unless you HAVE to
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightmare9
Octane boost works just fine, its 99.9% kerosene and helps prevent pre-ignition, I had to use it in my motorcycle when they ran out of fuel in Alberta (couldn't find mid/premium for a while). Threw in half a bottle of Octane booster and i didn't hear any pinging for the 250km trip.

Personally, I wouldn't use it unless you HAVE to
Man, I remember that, it sucked haha.

Agreed with the octane booster, my buddy used it in his SRT-4 when he had to use regular and it didn't make a single knock.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightmare9
Octane boost works just fine, its 99.9% kerosene and helps prevent pre-ignition, I had to use it in my motorcycle when they ran out of fuel in Alberta (couldn't find mid/premium for a while). Threw in half a bottle of Octane booster and i didn't hear any pinging for the 250km trip.

Personally, I wouldn't use it unless you HAVE to
octane booster is crap, most of them do nothing, and most of the ones that "work" raise your actual octane level to such miniscule amounts, it will not even be noticeable.

Just because you didn't hear any pinging, doesn't mean anything.

Look up what is considered "octane points" in reference to octane boosters. You'll be surprised at what it actually means.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by INDColtsFan18
I HATE THIS! My mom ALWAYS puts regular gas in my car when I'm away at school for the week. It pisses me off.
Stab her. J/k.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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It's all in the octane rateing....
I put mid grade in once, whe nI first baught
before I got it tuned right and it was running
rich as hell. But then when I read the manual
and the Haynes manual I only ever put in
Premium since. It actually reccomnds
91 octane, but I only see 87 89 and 93
at the pumps, better to go higher then
lower. I have an aftermarket tune too so
Ill probably stay with 93 even if a 91 is offered.

But ya, useing lower octane then reccomended
can cause bad things to happen....
If your driving a car that runs on 87 normaly
then putting in 89 or 93 would all run about the same.
So your mom is correct but only for cars that run on 87.

Originally Posted by Nightmare9
Octane boost works just fine, its 99.9% kerosene and helps prevent pre-ignition, I had to use it in my motorcycle when they ran out of fuel in Alberta (couldn't find mid/premium for a while). Threw in half a bottle of Octane booster and i didn't hear any pinging for the 250km trip.

Personally, I wouldn't use it unless you HAVE to
Kerosene, Diesle and Jet Fuel are all VERY VERY Similar.
I would say You can even use them interchangelble without
much notice. I do remember from school that Jet Fuel, Deisle
and Kerosene fall arround / below the 50 octane rateing...
So why would they put it in an octane BOOSTER?

Last edited by insylem; Dec 31, 2009 at 02:12 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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my dad delivers gas, av gas, and jet fuel. ill ask him for a straight forward answer on differences. i only read the first page so if it was already answered oh well.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by blissmaster13
Ya, My dads really cheap when it comes to that kind of stuff. he buys the cheapest crap he can find (which around here is like Valero, Arco, Etc) and I buy the good stuff like 76 and Chevron. I do the math every time I fill up and the difference between premium and the lowest grade is anywhere from $1.50 - $3.00. I am aware what lower octane fuel can do to cars I was just curious if anyone actually put mid grade in their SS/SC or SS/TC or even the regular SS and having it cause knock or any other problems so I can shoot it right back at him and tell him to quit bugging me.
ARCO! I have never put that crap in my car, givin I have the 2.2 and dont need 92 grade. but I get it about your dad being cheap... my dad bought a 2009 jetta wolfsburg with the 2.0 turbo charger (has to have 92) and I have to explain all of this stuff to him, in the end I would rather pay the extra $2 just to be safe, but he still goes to arco and puts in the mid grade 89 crap... dumb.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by justmetk11
my dad delivers gas, av gas, and jet fuel. ill ask him for a straight forward answer on differences. i only read the first page so if it was already answered oh well.
3 main types of Avgas

80 octane (red) (I dont think you can get it anymore)

100 octane (blue) Most common, called 100LL for Low lead content (Still has lead)

130 octane (green) Higher lead content then 100LL
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