stage 1 for $150

[tomj77]

Originally Posted by More_Torque_More_HP

The sensors have a set pressure vs voltage curve in them. The curve ( straight line ) has a lower slope the higher the max pressure rating of the sensor. Since the ECM will not be seing the proper voltage for the calibrated boost just putting sensor won't work. Also, there are actually 3 sensors, The Baro sensor inside the ECM, the MAP sensor on the intake manifold and the TMAP sensor in the intercooler to throttle body pipe. If at key-up the output of these sensors do not match you will set P2227 code which can cause you to go into the no-boost mode or restricted power mode. This will happen on the second key-up after the sensors are installed.

So you can not just replace sensors and have them work. You need the calibration or tune.

yes i know u have to recalibrate or tune it, im just saying u dont need the stage 1 tune to do it. U can hptune it or trifecta im sure will get it done.

[peachpuff]

Originally Posted by tomj77

yes i know u have to recalibrate or tune it, im just saying u dont need the stage 1 tune to do it. U can hptune it or trifecta im sure will get it done.

How sure are you? Hptuners can't do squat with these new sensors, whether trifecta can rescale the sensors on a stock os is unknown also.
Now lets all let this thread die because there's so much misinformation here its not even funny.

[SportredSS]

The Map Sensor itself is over $85... You must have been dreaming to get all the goodies in the kit for $150.... Really.....

Tomj 77 is correct....

[tomj77]

Originally Posted by peachpuff

How sure are you? Hptuners can't do squat with these new sensors, whether trifecta can rescale the sensors on a stock os is unknown also.
Now lets all let this thread die because there's so much misinformation here its not even funny.

as far as i know, trifecta can and did with the stock sensors to read more than 23 psi and i have faith in them to be able to do it with the stage sensors.

[peachpuff]

Originally Posted by tomj77

as far as i know, trifecta can and did with the stock sensors to read more than 23 psi and i have faith in them to be able to do it with the stage sensors.

The stock sensors aren't limited to 23psi, they can read more than that, so trifecta didn't do anything to them. They're simply commanding more boost through better wastegate control.
First you're sure, then you have faith... whats next?

[tomj77]

Originally Posted by peachpuff

The stock sensors aren't limited to 23psi, they can read more than that, so trifecta didn't do anything to them. They're simply commanding more boost through better wastegate control.
First you're sure, then you have faith... whats next?

i dont think u know what ur talking about.

[peachpuff]

Im faithfully sure i do know what im talking aboot...
Just get the sensors and report back on how everything is working fine and dandy.

[chevy2]

Took me by surpise- good one

[Projekt]

Originally Posted by peachpuff

How sure are you? Hptuners can't do squat with these new sensors, whether trifecta can rescale the sensors on a stock os is unknown also.
Now lets all let this thread die because there's so much misinformation here its not even funny.

roflcopters

[RBC]

I am not bitching about the price at all, because if you want your warranty with no problems or hassle you open your wallet and buy the kit. If they want 1k for it, and you want peace of mind then do it. 500-600 for worry free performance isn't that bad.

Now on the other hand if you want to deal with the hassle and worry/don't care about your warranty piece it together and see what you get. I have a buddy with an HHR SS and he has the "stg 1" sensors and is hp tuned and has no problems with codes or anything and has had them since the kit came out for the HHR's. I don't know how different the computer is in the HHR but I would assume not much. He's not on here much but his screen name is SdgrS.

[peachpuff]

Originally Posted by Projekt

roflcopters

Rofl indeed... i know trifecta has their own custom os but i never heard vince say he can take the stock os and rescale it using his custom os so the 3bar sensors will work.

[tomj77]

Originally Posted by peachpuff

Rofl indeed... i know trifecta has their own custom os but i never heard vince say he can take the stock os and rescale it using his custom os so the 3bar sensors will work.

i would have, but it seems those sensors that where seen for $14 are the stock ones so still no way of getting them without buying the kit.

[Baron7700]

Originally Posted by More_Torque_More_HP

By far the most expensive part of the kit is the calibration. It is calibrated and test in temperature extremes and altitude extremes. You would not beleive the amount on engineering that goes into making the kit pass 50 state emissions, drive nicely in all temperatures and altitudes, all the while remaining durable and proving it is with durability testing, so that we can offer the 5 year, 100,000 mile warranty.

All of that expense needs to be recouped in the price we charge for the kits, while offering the kits to the dealers at a reasonable price, so they can make their profits on the kit while getting it to the consumer (you) at the lowest possible price.

If GM could not make any money on the kit they would not offer it. So yes GM is making some money on each kit. The dealers would not be selling it if they could not make money on the kit. So yes the dealers are making some money on the kits.

They are brought to you the consumer at the lowest possible price that makes business sense for the entire distribution chain.

+ they have give themself a buffer if anything does blow and they it needs warranty work..... In the end i have no problem with gm charging what they are and still keeping my warranty!!