The ms3's tuning isnt near as easy/good as the ss's HPT. HPT can really squeeze some power out of the lnf. which is too bad because the 2.3l mzr disi could have potential. anyway I loved both cars but the torq on the ms3 is much more noticeable.

 

Oh yeah definitely. I'm just not a fan of the MZR's unpredictability. Saddens me. Cause I love the MS3s, but blowing vacuum ftl.

Yeah stock definitely, but once you start modding the MS3s the HP quickly catches up. But still fun

 

**** ms3s...im tellin you i ran him stock with my ss t/c and he did not impress me...from the jump at a 40 i pulled about 3 quarters of a car then he came up to about the same on me then didnt go anywhere after that...n i beat the same one until 5th gear in my rsx...idk they just dont impress me...and people got nerve sayin the cobalts are ugly ...those zoom zooms are f'in ugly

 

1. ur a tard
2. they have to shift at 50mph
3. you did not beat a ms3 in a rsx lol that would mean a rsx would take a ss...or he cant shift worth ****
4. ricer?

you obviously have zero idea about the ms3 so please stop thinking you will beat them. JFC I wish I still had mine..id race all you loud mouths.

 

cant ms3 only make 400whp no matter how big the turbo is? thats wat i heard it was either 400whp or 450whp i heard

 

@ northvibe.
x2

 

ms3's are weak. end thread

 

hmm no they are similar to the SS. The stock turbo starts to not be efficient between 300-350whp. Once you get near 350whp the forge internals are common. And with a big turbo they can make 400-450whp. But they have the same fuel issues the SS has which is the same, 400whp glass ceiling.

Anyone who says the ms3 is fail is a ignorant car wannabe thug and has no idea wtf they have the potential for. The SS has many "fails" so it that comment makes zero sense.

 

x2. Don't **** MS3s, they are good cars and performance wise very similar to the ss/tcs.

So many delusions about the ss/tc here. Its obviously the greatest tuner car EVERZS!

 

they are faster than Corvettes too.

 

dont forget the veyron too...oh wait beating a dead horse?

 

How are the GT35s doing on the MZR right now? last i heard it took a serious build to get them to 400.

DUH! We have turboez. It means we beat ZR1s by 9 cars cause turbos are ALWAYS better.

C - Cool
O - Owners
B - Being
A - A
L - Local
T - Tool

 

Well there was 1 guy I know that had stock engine and a big gt35/36 turbo and was fine last I heard. I think he was waiting for funds or it to blow to do a fully built engine.

The rod blowing thing is still not fully known as there has been a couple stock and a couple modded going. its not a ramped issue that the internet has made it seem but obviously it is known. I only had a intake and bpv and I was happy with the power so I had no want to mod more. I havent stopped back to any ms3 forums in a while... but here in MN I my friends ms6 just dyno'd around 300whp bolted and cobb tuned. To get 400+whp its full bolt on, fmic and some tune time. I think most had boost controllers and bov. The gearing is so bad for 1/4's though so they still arent breaking those records haha. I dont think SS owners get how much gearing plays a roll.

 

dude cobalt owners beat Saleen S7s, we don't need to know gearing..DUH!

PS what about the new MS3s? aren't they suposed to be geared like a billion times better?

 

They are said to have better cooling on the tmic, stiffer suspension and better gearing. I have not test driven one myself but from what I hear the gearing really wasnt changed too much. Supposedly 1-5 were made to be slightly taller.

 

Lawl 'better' cooling for the top mount. But yeah, they look so good now. Improvement on an already good looking car.

 

northvibe...lol ur the ****** tard..i have the video still so ima post it 4 u 2 c...they are garbage..my rsx with 223whp n 165 trq wuz tearin him a ass..so ima post it so u can shut ur mean sucker ok..jus for u

 

i sez u-r car is teh sux dawg

 

This thread makes me LOL...... Kinda like how we laugh at other boards when we see them trash a SS with bad information. How can any Cobalt owner call a MS3 garbage??

When the fastest thing you've ever driven ...owned......or ridden in ......Is a Cobalt SS .......Then it's the fastest car in the world. Thats why you see some of these Cobalt owns all responses .

 

exactly..but wait all those people will now state they have been in 1000whp dsm's or honda's....

 

1) why is this in the gen discussion
2) The overtone here is no different that the typical ricers on a honda board bashing a balt' (ms3 is **** etc)

 

Only the OP is rice. See below:

^lolwut

Anyways, the original idea of this thread: MS3 vs. SS/TC isn't a bad one. Cars of the same class (FWD, I-4T)- it's a driver's race IMO. Now with the mods listed, the MS3 should win since the OP is not tuned and therefore his mods are useless. Again... if the driver of the MS3 has down syndrome, then the cobalt might pull...

As for your 220hp RSX beating a MS3 - I'm calling you out. That's total horseshit right there. The only time I've race an MS3 was with my old V6 Eclipse ~220hp minor bolt-ons and got beat by an MS3.. bus lengths in 3rd gear.

*Don't discount MS3 it's a very torquey and fast car in our class.*

OP: Go get tuned, get a video camera and do a couple pulls... not just 40 rolls due to the gearing difference in the MS3.

/thread.

 

I looked at the MS3s and really liked them. I looked at the GTI as well. Both were very nice, but I couldn't afford either one and I wanted to try out an American car, so Cobalt it was. I have not been unhappy with my purchase at all, but I realize that the MS3 and GTI are both fine autos.

 

why isnt the video posted? are you editing it so your rsx beats every car on the planet?

 

Why do people hate on the MS3s so much? Its a good car. And it sounds amazing.