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well aside from having a totally different drive train, different interior, different sheet metal, and different wheels, I guess they are basically the same car 
keep in mind this was before GM forced it's divisions to go corporate, so unlike today, when you went to drive a different divisions version of the same plat form, they didn't only differ by tail lights and an add on grille...
please read above;
you would be very hard pressed to find any parts other than the door lock knobs that were shared between the different divisions cars...
keep in mind this was before GM forced it's divisions to go corporate, so unlike today, when you went to drive a different divisions version of the same plat form, they didn't only differ by tail lights and an add on grille...
please read above;
you would be very hard pressed to find any parts other than the door lock knobs that were shared between the different divisions cars...
and for the picture i posted, i think it looks better but then again if you like the original styling than you would think otherwise
You might want to narrow the focus a little...I'll wager I'm a little older than you and there are plenty of old cars that suck *****, even if you get all nostalgic about them!
Muscle cars, yeah...not 'old cars'...
Muscle cars, yeah...not 'old cars'...
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I'm sure some of you guys will laugh, but honestly I would've liked to see a DI turbo V6 in this chassis. Something along the lines of the new Taurus SHO, but with a manual option. The fact there is even a manual RPO on this amazes me honestly, and shows that GM is certainly trying to attract more owners like me 
still not ready to rock a Buick though, maybe my next car. If theres anything I don't like its the steering wheel.
The literature I recently read about this car in GM Techlink said the turbo is a variable geometry unit.
Edit: http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2...-for-2011.html
Edit2: Old farts who sit around and say **** like the 1957 Chevy was the best car are smoking crack rocks. They were unsafe, rust like no other and whens the last time you wondered what a car was going to do in cold weather? Even in -6696969 degrees these days you can turn the key and its a pretty safe bet she'll start. Also lets not forget about points based ignition....
still not ready to rock a Buick though, maybe my next car. If theres anything I don't like its the steering wheel.The literature I recently read about this car in GM Techlink said the turbo is a variable geometry unit.
Edit: http://www.sandyblogs.com/techlink/2...-for-2011.html
Edit2: Old farts who sit around and say **** like the 1957 Chevy was the best car are smoking crack rocks. They were unsafe, rust like no other and whens the last time you wondered what a car was going to do in cold weather? Even in -6696969 degrees these days you can turn the key and its a pretty safe bet she'll start. Also lets not forget about points based ignition....
So are Model T's, and many other not high powered cars that I'd love to drive...
The only funny thing about your post is that you are not the first person who has posted some crap about being older than me for no reason other than to puff up your chest;
I also find it funny that all my information is posted & public, while yours is not.
There are just as many crappy old cars as extraordinarily crappy new cars.
My Cobalt is the first new car I've bought, because nothing else new was of enough interest to me.
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Edit2: Old farts who sit around and say **** like the 1957 Chevy was the best car are smoking crack rocks. They were unsafe, rust like no other and whens the last time you wondered what a car was going to do in cold weather? Even in -6696969 degrees these days you can turn the key and its a pretty safe bet she'll start. Also lets not forget about points based ignition....
Edit2: Old farts who sit around and say **** like the 1957 Chevy was the best car are smoking crack rocks. They were unsafe, rust like no other and whens the last time you wondered what a car was going to do in cold weather? Even in -6696969 degrees these days you can turn the key and its a pretty safe bet she'll start. Also lets not forget about points based ignition....
- in need of less maintenance
- can eek out better gas mileage (when using an even playing field; but even then, most of that is transmission gearing - old cars normally didn't have overdrive)
But you put a 1970 Chevrolet Nova* SS/396/4spd beside a 2010 Cobalt* SS, you better believe which one is going to get more attention... and it's not the Direct Injected car.
(* = being 40 years apart, they fill the exact same market segment as each other)
Old cars are just as reliable as you make them to be, they do not rust any faster than late model cars, contrary to popular belief they are still quite safe - probably partially due to the fact that they don't collapse like a tin can from a low speed impact...
BTW, I only run points in my old cars - I like them more than latter electronic ignitions;
electronic ignitions simply give up, or at best, have irregular running problems, while points are easy to diagnose, service & replace.
Changing gears a little, I find it sickening that a car like this Regal only exists because this car is an attempt on GM's part to fill one of the holes that they created by killing off Pontiac.
You'ld better believe that if Pontiac was around, this Buick wouldn't even be a blip on the new car market.
Pontiac has been since roughly 1958 the marque that GM loyalists have gone to
if they wanted a reasonably priced uplevel while sporty car;
When GM wasn't putting limits on what Pontiac could do, they were consistently the 3rd best selling automaker behind Chevrolet & Ford...
Muscle cars are old cars...
So are Model T's, and many other not high powered cars that I'd love to drive...
The only funny thing about your post is that you are not the first person who has posted some crap about being older than me for no reason other than to puff up your chest;
I also find it funny that all my information is posted & public, while yours is not.
There are just as many crappy old cars as extraordinarily crappy new cars.
My Cobalt is the first new car I've bought, because nothing else new was of enough interest to me.
oh, don't misunderstand me, (perfectly running) late model computer controlled, fuel injected, cars are:
- in need of less maintenance
- can eek out better gas mileage (when using an even playing field; but even then, most of that is transmission gearing - old cars normally didn't have overdrive)
But you put a 1970 Chevrolet Nova* SS/396/4spd beside a 2010 Cobalt* SS, you better believe which one is going to get more attention... and it's not the Direct Injected car.
(* = being 40 years apart, they fill the exact same market segment as each other)
Old cars are just as reliable as you make them to be, they do not rust any faster than late model cars, contrary to popular belief they are still quite safe - probably partially due to the fact that they don't collapse like a tin can from a low speed impact...
BTW, I only run points in my old cars - I like them more than latter electronic ignitions;
electronic ignitions simply give up, or at best, have irregular running problems, while points are easy to diagnose, service & replace.
Changing gears a little, I find it sickening that a car like this Regal only exists because this car is an attempt on GM's part to fill one of the holes that they created by killing off Pontiac.
You'ld better believe that if Pontiac was around, this Buick wouldn't even be a blip on the new car market.
Pontiac has been since roughly 1958 the marque that GM loyalists have gone to
if they wanted a reasonably priced uplevel while sporty car;
When GM wasn't putting limits on what Pontiac could do, they were consistently the 3rd best selling automaker behind Chevrolet & Ford...
So are Model T's, and many other not high powered cars that I'd love to drive...
The only funny thing about your post is that you are not the first person who has posted some crap about being older than me for no reason other than to puff up your chest;
I also find it funny that all my information is posted & public, while yours is not.
There are just as many crappy old cars as extraordinarily crappy new cars.
My Cobalt is the first new car I've bought, because nothing else new was of enough interest to me.
oh, don't misunderstand me, (perfectly running) late model computer controlled, fuel injected, cars are:
- in need of less maintenance
- can eek out better gas mileage (when using an even playing field; but even then, most of that is transmission gearing - old cars normally didn't have overdrive)
But you put a 1970 Chevrolet Nova* SS/396/4spd beside a 2010 Cobalt* SS, you better believe which one is going to get more attention... and it's not the Direct Injected car.
(* = being 40 years apart, they fill the exact same market segment as each other)
Old cars are just as reliable as you make them to be, they do not rust any faster than late model cars, contrary to popular belief they are still quite safe - probably partially due to the fact that they don't collapse like a tin can from a low speed impact...
BTW, I only run points in my old cars - I like them more than latter electronic ignitions;
electronic ignitions simply give up, or at best, have irregular running problems, while points are easy to diagnose, service & replace.
Changing gears a little, I find it sickening that a car like this Regal only exists because this car is an attempt on GM's part to fill one of the holes that they created by killing off Pontiac.
You'ld better believe that if Pontiac was around, this Buick wouldn't even be a blip on the new car market.
Pontiac has been since roughly 1958 the marque that GM loyalists have gone to
if they wanted a reasonably priced uplevel while sporty car;
When GM wasn't putting limits on what Pontiac could do, they were consistently the 3rd best selling automaker behind Chevrolet & Ford...
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if this weighes less than 3500 lbs (doubt it) actually gets the 6spd man, and comes with a stage kit, I would get it. I love the sti wagon, but cant spend 40k on it. Id go with the 135i if i didnt live in snowy mountains, and I like decent gas mileage.
If you add all those things up I think you can see why I compromised the ss/tc, with fwd, decent power, and good gas mileage, cheap enough to have around for ~2 years and dump it when something special comes out. Could this be it? Id take slightly slower and classy over ***** to the wall and cheap, I dont race on streets, and itd be nice not to look 16.
If you add all those things up I think you can see why I compromised the ss/tc, with fwd, decent power, and good gas mileage, cheap enough to have around for ~2 years and dump it when something special comes out. Could this be it? Id take slightly slower and classy over ***** to the wall and cheap, I dont race on streets, and itd be nice not to look 16.
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if this weighes less than 3500 lbs (doubt it) actually gets the 6spd man, and comes with a stage kit, I would get it. I love the sti wagon, but cant spend 40k on it. Id go with the 135i if i didnt live in snowy mountains, and I like decent gas mileage.
If you add all those things up I think you can see why I compromised the ss/tc, with fwd, decent power, and good gas mileage, cheap enough to have around for ~2 years and dump it when something special comes out. Could this be it? Id take slightly slower and classy over ***** to the wall and cheap, I dont race on streets, and itd be nice not to look 16.
If you add all those things up I think you can see why I compromised the ss/tc, with fwd, decent power, and good gas mileage, cheap enough to have around for ~2 years and dump it when something special comes out. Could this be it? Id take slightly slower and classy over ***** to the wall and cheap, I dont race on streets, and itd be nice not to look 16.
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anyone else think this might of come out as a pontiac of Saab if they still them?
This would be a pretty slick new 9-3
Ya, When i heard they bringing the 135's over i was hopin they would bring there little hatch version, its pretty cool and with the awd itd be nice.
40k for a subaru, I just cant stop thinking about it haha, just cant do it.
Just checked on the buikc site, a fully loaded cxl is only like 31k..... so i dunno even if this thing was 35 that would be a deal, as your in evo / sti price range, (or a4, non turbo 3 series) with a little more class than the first two, and a little more performance than the latter two.
O ya and its different, I love different cars, One of the reasons I bought my 06 SLK, but alas rear wheel drive bit me in the ass on that one....
scratch that, opel version of the car weighs 3990lbs.
that has the v6 in tho, but i cant imagine the 4bangor would be more than maybe 50-100lbs lighter....
http://jalopnik.com/5408812/opel-ins...pc-first-drive
scratch that, opel version of the car weighs 3990lbs.
that has the v6 in tho, but i cant imagine the 4bangor would be more than maybe 50-100lbs lighter....
http://jalopnik.com/5408812/opel-ins...pc-first-drive
Man the more i read about the OPC's and the VXR's i get let down a little bit more and more haha.
http://www.insideline.com/vauxhall/i...rst-drive.html
This would be a pretty slick new 9-3
Ya, When i heard they bringing the 135's over i was hopin they would bring there little hatch version, its pretty cool and with the awd itd be nice.
40k for a subaru, I just cant stop thinking about it haha, just cant do it.
Just checked on the buikc site, a fully loaded cxl is only like 31k..... so i dunno even if this thing was 35 that would be a deal, as your in evo / sti price range, (or a4, non turbo 3 series) with a little more class than the first two, and a little more performance than the latter two.
O ya and its different, I love different cars, One of the reasons I bought my 06 SLK, but alas rear wheel drive bit me in the ass on that one....
scratch that, opel version of the car weighs 3990lbs.
that has the v6 in tho, but i cant imagine the 4bangor would be more than maybe 50-100lbs lighter....
http://jalopnik.com/5408812/opel-ins...pc-first-drive
scratch that, opel version of the car weighs 3990lbs.
that has the v6 in tho, but i cant imagine the 4bangor would be more than maybe 50-100lbs lighter....
http://jalopnik.com/5408812/opel-ins...pc-first-drive
Man the more i read about the OPC's and the VXR's i get let down a little bit more and more haha.
http://www.insideline.com/vauxhall/i...rst-drive.html
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One interesting thing here is a GM design mentality change on this platform. Remember back in the day when rumors were the low end Camaro might have a LNF in it? Well they publicly came out eventually and said theres "no way an LNF can properly move around this 3500lb car."
Annnnnnnnnnnd yet there you have it.
Annnnnnnnnnnd yet there you have it.
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One interesting thing here is a GM design mentality change on this platform. Remember back in the day when rumors were the low end Camaro might have a LNF in it? Well they publicly came out eventually and said theres "no way an LNF can properly move around this 3500lb car."
Annnnnnnnnnnd yet there you have it.
Annnnnnnnnnnd yet there you have it.
Why not put the 3.6l DI motor in it, like the bottom camaro or the nicer CTS??
Its a pretty good motor....... but I know we all like forced induction, something sexy about it.
I am sure that would have some nice tuning potential if they produced them in greater numbers.
you give me attitude then get upset (and tell me to pull a stick out of my ass!??) because I actually put some thought into my initial post, and can coherently reply to you?
I'm not hating... how about you
(the brit comment you had from RP was stupid and uncalled for IMHO)
Jeeze, some people...
1) 4 door pseudo wagon
2) <3500#
3) 6 speed
4) can get stage kit(s)
5) iirc 'base' SRT4's came in cheaper than the 'base' SS/TC's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Caliber#SRT4
No offense to the HHR guys, but IMHO this thing kills the HHR SS in pretty much every catagory.
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