Accidentally floored it in 5th. Bad?
yea, its not good for your clutch at all
its like spinning your hand on sand paper thats on a table top versus spinning your hand on sandpaper thats glued to the same table top....you will wear your skin off if you apply a lot of force in the latter case, in the earlier it will just spin the sand paper
its like spinning your hand on sand paper thats on a table top versus spinning your hand on sandpaper thats glued to the same table top....you will wear your skin off if you apply a lot of force in the latter case, in the earlier it will just spin the sand paper
Your transmission will synchronise to the correct speeds before you shift into 5th, and with such low torque it would probably be the least damage on your clutch... Since that's what causes force... torque.
I'm saying you are applying the same torque against a much harder to turn object. If the friction surface slips it's going to wear much faster. The hand versus sand paper analogy is usually a pretty easy to imagine one.
yea, its not good for your clutch at all
its like spinning your hand on sand paper thats on a table top versus spinning your hand on sandpaper thats glued to the same table top....you will wear your skin off if you apply a lot of force in the latter case, in the earlier it will just spin the sand paper
its like spinning your hand on sand paper thats on a table top versus spinning your hand on sandpaper thats glued to the same table top....you will wear your skin off if you apply a lot of force in the latter case, in the earlier it will just spin the sand paper
Dont floor it in 5th. it definately puts more stress on the drivetrain then necessary, especially since your not really doing yourself any favors doing it. It doesnt make the car fast, lol.
yea, its not good for your clutch at all
its like spinning your hand on sand paper thats on a table top versus spinning your hand on sandpaper thats glued to the same table top....you will wear your skin off if you apply a lot of force in the latter case, in the earlier it will just spin the sand paper
its like spinning your hand on sand paper thats on a table top versus spinning your hand on sandpaper thats glued to the same table top....you will wear your skin off if you apply a lot of force in the latter case, in the earlier it will just spin the sand paper
Thanks for all of the input guys. Looks like i started a few arguments lol but some interesting point of views for sure. I can understand why it would definitely not be a good thing to do, but like some people mentioned, on these newer cars its probably not as easy to damage them as we think. You would probably have to really abuse the car before you started to damage anything.
it's hardly bs, but preach on brotha ronn..
Seriously though, WOT at anything under 4,000rpm in 5th gear is just asking for trouble. Once or twice by accident for a very short time, not so big of a deal. Make a habbit of being lazy and getting deep into boost that low in the rpm range with that much load on the engine (ESPECIALLY tuned).. absolute
Seriously though, WOT at anything under 4,000rpm in 5th gear is just asking for trouble. Once or twice by accident for a very short time, not so big of a deal. Make a habbit of being lazy and getting deep into boost that low in the rpm range with that much load on the engine (ESPECIALLY tuned).. absolute

I'm thinking the same people that think low torque will slip a clutch but high torque won't are the same people that believe in rapture...
The topics might be completely different, but they both are based on blind faith from something somebody said was true without and scientific nature with convoluted explanations that confuse the lame-men...
The topics might be completely different, but they both are based on blind faith from something somebody said was true without and scientific nature with convoluted explanations that confuse the lame-men...
What the hell are you talking about? I wasn't aware your clutch changed friction materials when you shift into 5th 
Your transmission will synchronise to the correct speeds before you shift into 5th, and with such low torque it would probably be the least damage on your clutch... Since that's what causes force... torque.
Your transmission will synchronise to the correct speeds before you shift into 5th, and with such low torque it would probably be the least damage on your clutch... Since that's what causes force... torque.
Read this:
clutch diagnostics maintenance repair
When a clutch starts to slip, the slippage will be most noticeable when the engine is under load, as when lugging at low speed in a high gear, when driving up a hill, when accelerating to pass another vehicle or when towing a trailer. The more the clutch slips, the hotter it gets and the more it wears. This accelerates the problem even more and may result in additional damage to the flywheel and pressure plate
The clutch isn't going to slip flooring it in 5th at low rpms because it's not under load, since the engine isn't loading the clutch because it's not generating much torque.
The engine is under load yes.
Fuckit, while you're worrying about your clutch go top up your blinker fluid.
The engine is under load yes.
Fuckit, while you're worrying about your clutch go top up your blinker fluid.
The clutch isn't going to slip flooring it in 5th at low rpms because it's not under load, since the engine isn't loading the clutch because it's not generating much torque.
The engine is under load yes.
Fuckit, while you're worrying about your clutch go top up your blinker fluid.
The engine is under load yes.
Fuckit, while you're worrying about your clutch go top up your blinker fluid.
So they use the first four gears to make the car slower? They may as well just have one gear and a clutch that can handle all the massive v-tak torque...
Seriously guys?
Your engine is straining to turn the wheels of your car at low rpms and high gear, that's why this whole knock question was brought up, not the other way around lmao.
Seriously guys?
Your engine is straining to turn the wheels of your car at low rpms and high gear, that's why this whole knock question was brought up, not the other way around lmao.
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So lets say a tuned SS tc has 350 tq and you hammer it in 5th gear at 2000rpms and hold it there.. You don't think that's bad for the clutch?? Please tell me why it isn't??
Alright, first of all your clutch is not going to slip in such a common condition, if that were seriously the case then GM would be in for so many warranty repairs. So there's the common sense part.
No here's the science part, ready? If you were to spin the crankshaft of your crazy 350 ft-lb torque monster up to like say 6000 rpm and dump the clutch and it theoretically actually held completely without slipping then you would generate your 350 ft-lbs of torque since at that specific point in time there are 350 lbs per square foot of force on your clutch. However, when you're already rolling and there's minimum resistance from your transmission, spinning your motor at a measly little 2000 IS NOT going to generate 350 ft-lbs of torque and is not going to slip your clutch.
When you guys come up with this crap, people that know what is going on are looking at you and asking "less torque means more slip?"
No here's the science part, ready? If you were to spin the crankshaft of your crazy 350 ft-lb torque monster up to like say 6000 rpm and dump the clutch and it theoretically actually held completely without slipping then you would generate your 350 ft-lbs of torque since at that specific point in time there are 350 lbs per square foot of force on your clutch. However, when you're already rolling and there's minimum resistance from your transmission, spinning your motor at a measly little 2000 IS NOT going to generate 350 ft-lbs of torque and is not going to slip your clutch.
When you guys come up with this crap, people that know what is going on are looking at you and asking "less torque means more slip?"
I think you should go test out your theory in your car. Make sure to get some video of you doing several 5th gear pulls from say 30 mph.
Alright, first of all your clutch is not going to slip in such a common condition, if that were seriously the case then GM would be in for so many warranty repairs. So there's the common sense part.
No here's the science part, ready? If you were to spin the crankshaft of your crazy 350 ft-lb torque monster up to like say 6000 rpm and dump the clutch and it theoretically actually held completely without slipping then you would generate your 350 ft-lbs of torque since at that specific point in time there are 350 lbs per square foot of force on your clutch. However, when you're already rolling and there's minimum resistance from your transmission, spinning your motor at a measly little 2000 IS NOT going to generate 350 ft-lbs of torque and is not going to slip your clutch.
When you guys come up with this crap, people that know what is going on are looking at you and asking "less torque means more slip?"
No here's the science part, ready? If you were to spin the crankshaft of your crazy 350 ft-lb torque monster up to like say 6000 rpm and dump the clutch and it theoretically actually held completely without slipping then you would generate your 350 ft-lbs of torque since at that specific point in time there are 350 lbs per square foot of force on your clutch. However, when you're already rolling and there's minimum resistance from your transmission, spinning your motor at a measly little 2000 IS NOT going to generate 350 ft-lbs of torque and is not going to slip your clutch.
When you guys come up with this crap, people that know what is going on are looking at you and asking "less torque means more slip?"
Its called load and that makes your turbo spool.. Which creates a lot of tq at low rpms and your car is not gonna spin the tires so the clutch is the first thing to slip! I know this from first hand experiance from my car and some of my friends cars.. THE STOCK CLUTCH DOESN"T LIKE IT!
MAYBE IF I USE CAPITALS I CAN MAKE WORLD PEACE
ahh forget it, have fun guys.
How much footage would you like? I haven't really filmed my daily commute to and from work a lot, but I guess if I start now... Maybe in a 100 years I'll have enough proof for you?
No, load doesn't make your turbo spool, exhaust gases make your turbo spool. Exhaust gases are generated when your engine makes a full combustion cycle in a cylinder, so the faster they generate (ie high rpms and no resistance to hinder the movement of the cylinders), the faster your turbo spools.
MAYBE IF I USE CAPITALS I CAN MAKE WORLD PEACE
ahh forget it, have fun guys.
No, load doesn't make your turbo spool, exhaust gases make your turbo spool. Exhaust gases are generated when your engine makes a full combustion cycle in a cylinder, so the faster they generate (ie high rpms and no resistance to hinder the movement of the cylinders), the faster your turbo spools.
MAYBE IF I USE CAPITALS I CAN MAKE WORLD PEACE
ahh forget it, have fun guys.


