a normal 2871 is about 1200 bux.. so i'm not seeing how one thats modded to be PnP at that price is high

 

A supporting vendor on solstice forum claimed an upgraded manifold was worth 30whp on their big turbo swaps. So, the stocker may "support flows upto 700hp" but upgrading it is still worth some serious HP before that point.

Personally, i'd love to see what a pro tuner could do with this stage 1 upgrade, ZZP's upcoming cams and a short runner tig welded turbo mani.

 

that would be interesting.. also though something to think about is on big turbo swaps they're usually not twin scroll so the stock manifold is usually hurting their performance a good bit. so on a twin scroll turbo you might not gain a whole lot going from stock to aftermarket

 

^^This
Good price for a turbo that bolts right up and keeps twin scroll design

 

By the way, Term, once this comes out I'll definitely need tuning. I was thinking about doing basically the same thing as Nick's car after he helps me put in my stage II (can't let Nick beat me, last time we raced before he had e47 we were dead even, now I know he'll kill me). I have full bolt ons and trifecta already, I will do a MAF relocation and BOV, want to go e47, and I'm going to try and get the ZZP stg IV clutch. So...how would you feel about tuning a sedan ;-)

 

ya man just let me know when you have it i will help with the install, and you wont be beating me very long im starting my motor build in december and the new clutch will be in once the break in is done the turbo kit will be in

 

I can definately help you with all the tuning. E-47 and a combo tune should make really good power. Nick's car is at over 350 whp on the stock turbo so if this one ends up performing like it should it should be capable of about 100 whp more than the stock turbo.

 

NO!!!!!!!!!! You have to let me be faster than you for longer than that!!!

I'm already excited!

 

When are you getting your stuff?

 

Just got a few e-mails from BNR with pics of the finished product as well as some data sheets comparing the K04 to the Stage1 and 2 upgrades.
I cant wait to do this to my balt man! It should put me exactly where I want as far as power goes

 

Post it up

 

Cubaniche forwarded the E-Mails to me so I'll do it.

 

sub'd

 

Flow numbers?
K04 - ~36lb/min
2860 - ?
2871 - ?

 

Looks like Bryan will be calling me on Monday when he finishes the Stage II. I want to wait until black friday and see if I can snag a Stage IV ZZP clutch for cheap though, because if so then I won't be killing the clutch like Nick. So I'm guessing that I should have everything I need by early December. I already have the CP with BOV and will be getting the cold side CP with MAF relocate either today or tomorrow.

 

so how much does this cost around for either stage?

My computer hates me and doesnt load the bnr site

 

I dont see this turbo on their site

 

This is core exchange type of system, you must contact the guy to be put on a list.

They aren't on the website because they are so new they don't have any prototypes in cars. He doesn't have any numbers or simply no data supporting them yet.

Once every one has all 3 stages in cars getting the most gains I am sure he will streamline the site making it much easier. Just gotta wait for the results. Stage 3 isn't even put together yet.

 

Got the phone call today and mine is shipping out! Can't wait! I'll even be so nice as to dyno once I get it installed and tuned for

 

Sweet!!

 

cant wait to c this!

 

there is no stg 3 anymore.. the 2860 with new compressor housing was deemed not worth it

 

You have no IDEA how much I want this Stage 1, I wish I had the money to send the message to him with an extra turbo. I need a POS car to drive around so I can work on my cobalt... DA*M*IT!!! If anyone hears what the Stage 1 numbers are PLEASE POST!!! I guess im goin to the corners now for the money... LOL

 

Just think if you didn't overpay for all that Hahn stuff, you could've probably had enough.

 

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