so are kilts....

u want to wear them around?

 

Damn...the coolest feature we have is.....................dual trip monitors?

lol

 

If i was Scottish im sure i would have one. a couple friends in HS played bagpipes and wore kilts on occasion.

 

were they commando in their kilts??

 

well I haz teh RPD!

 

guys on here have run 13.5's pure stock. That puts us in the mid top 60!

 

im sure alot of the other cars have run times quicker than posted too.

 

Correction...GUY..singular...I don't think anyone else has been capable of that freakish of a time stock. The average person will hit low 14s.

Eh..I mean it's cool...but I'd never pay for it. I like the standard boost gauge. Plus that's not a standard option like VWs window crap!

 

I didnt bother. We have something similar for the CSRT. Its called a performance guage cluster.

Guess what I have instead? AEROFORCE FTMFW! Not only does it do everything the cluster did, but it also does a whole lot more AND it costed less.

 

Yeah I'm thinkin' I want to replace my stock gauge with an Aeroforce.

 

awesome list.
damn i love this cobalt as much as my z when it was new!
no one expects it.........

on a side note, i like that only the top of the list would give my other car any trouble.....with a good driver that is!

 

Do it. The aeroforce is a necessity for tuning.

 

Eh...maybe...HPTuners is pretty much a do all tool when it comes to tuning and since this car has a built in wideband..it pretty much has everything I could need..I just like the digital readouts...Does that thing read Vacuum on the boost portion as well or just positive boost from 0 up?

 

I have mine set to read ACTUAL boost ( not PCM boost ), knock retard, map voltage, and throttle % right now.

dude, the list is too long. U can read EVERYTHING, no joking. oil temp, coolant temp, battery temp, EVERYTHING. In addtion, it has a shift light, 0-60, 1/4mile, etc.

 

Yeah I'm aware of all it's parameters my buddy has (had) one on his SS supercharged and he liked it a lot...and I am FFFAARRR to lazy to hook it up to read actual boost.

 

bah!

its easy! Splice the Map out wire from ur PCM, hook up a wire to it, run it through ut firewall, solder it to the wiring harness that comes with the scanguage, and ur all set!

 

Wiring..soldering...every time I seem to try any of the above in a car...a fire happens...soooo...you can hook it up for me!!

 

lol my 03 SRT made 221 whp w/ no mods. so yeah, slightly underrated. I have no clue what my original 0-60 time was, but i ran 13.8 @ 102.X with factory Michelin PS2s on prepped track. My dry weight was just under 3000 lbs, not sure how that compares to SS. CD says they adjust for temperature, humidity and other conditions, supposedly they use SAE formula for that, but to the best of my recollection, they haven't published that standard in my 15 years of subscribing. Other mags printed even faster test 0-60 #s (but same/similar 1320 #s), but we always attributed that to ringer cars or flat out dishonest "journalism."

The 04 mods included bigger injectors and LSD whose assistance preventing L/R torque steer - and thus theoretically helping straightline - is probable, but debatable. The car was uprated 15 hp to 230, but this was not reflected on owner dynos. We always felt the car was underrated and a more accurate crank # would have been 250. The tq # always seemed about right. It could have been an insurance play to keep the car affordable. They did it in the 60s, why not again?

I'm @ 70k mi, have had ZERO issues other than mods I've made, so I must have gotten the car that was being built when the DaimlerBenz engineers were walking the production line on an inspection. I always imagined two UAW lardasses saying "Bobby Joe look busy, them two germin guys Hanz and Günther are comin'! Mornin' Mistur Karlheinz, worky-work, busy bee, luv buildin' these Neons..."

While I've had no problems on my car, I'm not so naive - nor such a diehard Mopar fanboy that I would dispute Chrysler's history of quality/reliabilty problems. Thus, perhaps on CD's car, the robots or the Mexicans (final assembly point) or the Mexican robots or whomever may have inadvertently left some things such as sound deadening, heavy welds, cabin impact safety crossmembers and perhaps wheel lugs off the car during its manufacture. So at least worthless, unneccesary, dead weight was removed instead of important things like the power rear window switches.

Oh wait, we didn't have those, either. (A nice weight savings of 24 ounces.)

Our trans ratios are way different. I found the final drives for both cars (Neon's final drive was 3.53 vs. Cobalt 3.82), but unable to locate the SS SC or TC's individual gear ratios. Am very sure the Neon's is a closer ratio gearbox.

I think the real answer is the power curve. Our torque peaked very low (2200-2300) and remained flat until 5800. It was usable over the entire curve. I'd be interested in looking at a stock SS curve to see how it builds. To me, it's kind of like an amp rated at both RMS and peak: what's the top # you can hit and how long can you keep it there? The longer the better.

Sorry, thread-jack not intended. The point of this thread is clear - the SS from whatever year is a performance value leader, which is why I'm here considering moving from Mopar to Bowtie. Good post, I'd like to see this plotted on a chart against $ and performance, but who's got that kind of time?

 

lol thread properly jacked.

and killed.

my work here is done....

 

Ha ha yeah nice kill. You should put this in the war stories section under a thread titled Azi_SRT-4 vs Shitty Magazine Thread

 

The RPD is Cool ..... The ONLY thing I don't like is the lack of vacuum on the boost gauge , wonder why they didn't put that in?

 

Because vaccuum's SUCK :P Okay Okay bad joke

 

whats up with the 0-60 difference between the 08 and 09 models. looks like the 09 models have better 60 time.

 

Different driver, or different track conditions and/or both is all it really could be. They are pretty much the same car performance wise.

 

Lots of interesting responses guys!

I did it just to illustrate the point that there are very, very few cars which can perform like the Balt SS that don't cost thousands (and even tens of thousands) more.

People can quip about our car's interior, but the bottom line is that a plush interior never won a drag race.

Mustangs, Camaros, Evo's, etc. don't waste their time revving their engines at cars with just "nice interiors".