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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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high rise/low rise...

hey balters...

i've had my 09' tc for about 3 weeks now and i gotta say sweeeet. i own vettes and this has got to be as fun too!
anywho, i talked to my insurance agent and he said if i purchased a sedan my insurance would have been $19 cheaper per mo. because it is a sedan!! now the crazy thing is... from what i 've read, the sedan goes faster than the coupe - top speed(road and track/motor trend) 146mph coupe - 156 mph sedan. i ask...is it the high rise that is slowing it down? would my coupe be faster because i have the low rise? i do understand the down force on the high rise does contribute to slower speeds...(we have raced before and that is how we adjusted the down force speed control) on our track cars...

gentlmen? (and ladies) any input?

sorry...i think i am in general lnf...i meant to put this in the tech section!!

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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sport-o!
hey balters...

i've had my 09' tc for about 3 weeks now and i gotta say sweeeet. i own vettes and this has got to be as fun too!
anywho, i talked to my insurance agent and he said if i purchased a sedan my insurance would have been $19 cheaper per mo. because it is a sedan!! now the crazy thing is... from what i 've read, the sedan goes faster than the coupe - top speed(road and track/motor trend) 146mph coupe - 156 mph sedan. i ask...is it the high rise that is slowing it down? would my coupe be faster because i have the low rise? i do understand the down force on the high rise does contribute to slower speeds...(we have raced before and that is how we adjusted the down force speed control) on our track cars...

gentlmen? (and ladies) any input?

sorry...i think i am in general lnf...i meant to put this in the tech section!!
High Spoiler - Will yeild a lower top speed...

Coupe - Faster then the sedan
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 05:32 PM
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What vettes are you beating C4's haha stock no way you can take a C5 unless the owner is 70+.....................
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC
What vettes are you beating C4's haha stock no way you can take a C5 unless the owner is 70+.....................
i think he means he actually owns a vette
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobaltss/TC
What vettes are you beating C4's haha stock no way you can take a C5 unless the owner is 70+.....................
I beat a c5 convertible from a 70 roll and thought i was going to lose. he shifted down the same time i did and we didn't upshift before we ran out of road, so that's not true.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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the coupe is aerodynamically challenged due to the big ass wing.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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mmmmyeah, and i unfortunately like the high rise better. i guess i'll bolt on the small one if i ever want to break the sound bearier...
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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i dont think theres many places to top out the car without cops....
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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my point exactly.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:51 PM
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i dont think theres many places to top out the car without cops....
Frig even at the track it's unlikley you will top out..
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Even on a 2 mile track you still cant hit top speed with our cars and the high wing does aid in down force on the track(not drag racing).....
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by thehov
Even on a 2 mile track you still cant hit top speed with our cars and the high wing does aid in down force on the track(not drag racing).....

Vice Versa, it will help drag racing... not on the track...

Your not going fast enough, on the corners for it to make a difference....

Either way, on a FWD car unless you going over 200mph.... I wouldn't worry about it at all....

I would be worrying about, if a Tire Blows
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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^^^^^ speaks the truf.

i honestly like the feel of the ride wingless going down the freeway. feels smoother
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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i dont think theres many places to top out the car without cops....
We have some roads out here in the CFL you can max out about anything but a Veyron. Check it. Had my SRT on the other side of 160, a vette and my bike in the 180's, etc...
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Teal94Z
i think he means he actually owns a vette
correct!!
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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What about having no wing or spoiler?
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Oh man...I remember this debate on the srtforums about 2 years go...epic...

There is most likely some R&D into the high-wing (there was on the Neon SRT-4 when it came out). It did clean up some air flow issues on the back end, but nothing that any of us are going to notice on a day to day basis. I'm sure it provides some downforce at high speeds...how much...don't know that one.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by satellite
Oh man...I remember this debate on the srtforums about 2 years go...epic...

There is most likely some R&D into the high-wing (there was on the Neon SRT-4 when it came out). It did clean up some air flow issues on the back end, but nothing that any of us are going to notice on a day to day basis. I'm sure it provides some downforce at high speeds...how much...don't know that one.
I saw on another thread not long ago some information posted by a member.

It stated the downforce was just over 23 lbs. @ 70mph.
Just over 70lbs. @ 130mph
Just over 115lbs @ 150mph

I think what you all are discovering is just basic stuff the dealer already knew. That is that it's just a matter of personal opinion. I have the high rise. It's fine by me. I only hit top speed once just to check it out and don't ever plan on doing it again. I'm not sure what all of the fuss is about. Just bragging rights?
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by satellite
Oh man...I remember this debate on the srtforums about 2 years go...epic...

There is most likely some R&D into the high-wing (there was on the Neon SRT-4 when it came out). It did clean up some air flow issues on the back end, but nothing that any of us are going to notice on a day to day basis. I'm sure it provides some downforce at high speeds...how much...don't know that one.
i did speak to the r&d guys and they said it puts 420 -460 pounds of down force at top speed (high wing @146)

Originally Posted by Zander916
I saw on another thread not long ago some information posted by a member.

It stated the downforce was just over 23 lbs. @ 70mph.
Just over 70lbs. @ 130mph
Just over 115lbs @ 150mph

I think what you all are discovering is just basic stuff the dealer already knew. That is that it's just a matter of personal opinion. I have the high rise. It's fine by me. I only hit top speed once just to check it out and don't ever plan on doing it again. I'm not sure what all of the fuss is about. Just bragging rights?
i wasn't fussing...just cutious if there was/is a difference between the high and low rise. plus i was stating that the 4 - door is faster top end by 10 miles per hour and cheaper in insurance...crazy

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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sport-o!
i did speak to the r&d guys and they said it puts 420 -460 pounds of down force at top speed (high wing @146)



i wasn't fussing...just cutious if there was/is a difference between the high and low rise. plus i was stating that the 4 - door is faster top end by 10 miles per hour and cheaper in insurance...crazy
I see. I guess cause the rear occupants have a better chance of getting out rather than being burned alive when we crash and burn these things.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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I see. I guess cause the rear occupants have a better chance of getting out rather than being burned alive when we crash and burn these things.
...good point...
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