Pulley's???
Pulley's???
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if by any chance pulley's are being developed for the LNF. I understand the LSJ has some upgreades for the Eaton, but what about lighten pulley's? Anything being developed? Just curious. Thanks
Just wondering if by any chance pulley's are being developed for the LNF. I understand the LSJ has some upgreades for the Eaton, but what about lighten pulley's? Anything being developed? Just curious. Thanks
I assume you are talking about the crankshaft and other pulleys on the engine, like underdrive pulleys?
I remember reading an article once where they dyno'd a v8 car of some sort, then removed all of the accessory pulleys (ran with NO accessories) and dyno'd again and gained something like half an HP.
I remember reading an article once where they dyno'd a v8 car of some sort, then removed all of the accessory pulleys (ran with NO accessories) and dyno'd again and gained something like half an HP.
I assume you are talking about the crankshaft and other pulleys on the engine, like underdrive pulleys?
I remember reading an article once where they dyno'd a v8 car of some sort, then removed all of the accessory pulleys (ran with NO accessories) and dyno'd again and gained something like half an HP.
I remember reading an article once where they dyno'd a v8 car of some sort, then removed all of the accessory pulleys (ran with NO accessories) and dyno'd again and gained something like half an HP.
They do nothing, it's like a grounding kit
I had them on another car. No, they don't free up much HP... but they DO free up some bottom end TORQUE.
I'm not saying get them if they come out or something. I probably wouldn't bother. But when I had them I could definitely tell on the bottom end.
I'm not saying get them if they come out or something. I probably wouldn't bother. But when I had them I could definitely tell on the bottom end.
...you just wasted (if you were to buy them) what, 100, 200 dollars on a ricer "get fast quick" part?
of course you're going to rationalize that it made a difference even if it didn't. you just wasted your money.
of course you're going to rationalize that it made a difference even if it didn't. you just wasted your money.
I just found an article about an M3. (private owner, not website ad) They gained 6hp. Not much but they DO do something. They didn't show the torque either.
So rationalize THIS for me. Why are people spending $600 on exhaust for SS/TC's that do close to nothing but sound. Same deal dude. No use in the real world as you say.
Seeing how the LNF has 2 accessories on the FEAD: Alternator, Air Conditioning, there's no real benefit to underdrive pulleys. The A/C doesn't engage all the time so there's no power loss. You essentially just run the alternator to charge the batteries and provide power for the ignition and electronics.
EDIT: Here's a dyno... http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3122
Peak hp didn't change but the powerband did. I'll find more if you want... Peak numbers aren't the bread and butter. We don't race at only one set rpm.
I assume you are talking about the crankshaft and other pulleys on the engine, like underdrive pulleys?
I remember reading an article once where they dyno'd a v8 car of some sort, then removed all of the accessory pulleys (ran with NO accessories) and dyno'd again and gained something like half an HP.
I remember reading an article once where they dyno'd a v8 car of some sort, then removed all of the accessory pulleys (ran with NO accessories) and dyno'd again and gained something like half an HP.
What's the point of running an underdrive crank pulley when there aren't any accessories to underdrive besides the alternator? I kind of like the radical approach GM took for minimizing the FEAD (front-end accessory drive): cam driven water pump, electric power steering).
for all the non believers just think of a 18speed mountain bike
make the front sprocket(crank pulley) smaller by down shifting
does it take less effort to pedal?
very valid point
make the front sprocket(crank pulley) smaller by down shifting
does it take less effort to pedal?
What's the point of running an underdrive crank pulley when there aren't any accessories to underdrive besides the alternator? I kind of like the radical approach GM took for minimizing the FEAD (front-end accessory drive): cam driven water pump, electric power steering).
Last edited by JimzSS; May 2, 2009 at 11:27 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
With turbo cars replacing the pulley can be touchy. By reducing the weight of the pulley, most of the time the harmonic balancer/dampener is removed. This can cause a problem with the crank balance and lead to problems with the oil pump if I remember correctly which will lead to pre-mature engine and turbo failure.
Google it.
I just found an article about an M3. (private owner, not website ad) They gained 6hp. Not much but they DO do something. They didn't show the torque either.
So rationalize THIS for me. Why are people spending $600 on exhaust for SS/TC's that do close to nothing but sound. Same deal dude. No use in the real world as you say.
I just found an article about an M3. (private owner, not website ad) They gained 6hp. Not much but they DO do something. They didn't show the torque either.
So rationalize THIS for me. Why are people spending $600 on exhaust for SS/TC's that do close to nothing but sound. Same deal dude. No use in the real world as you say.
first off a dyno does nothing... thats like putting a light weight flywheel on and expecting more horse power / tq lol... u just lighten it up creating less spinning intertia... which intern lets it rev up faster. posably not as hard on the motor and i guess if ur into going super super light lol it might help.
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