The SS/TC is also drive by wire. It just so happens Ford have a bunch of idiots programming the drive by wire systems. There's throttle lag, throttle dead space, and sometimes even throttle hang. GM isn't any better, but the SS/TC system is programmed so well that I couldn't feel any throttle lag or dead space or hang. The Mazdaspeed3 is also free of these problems and is drive by wire.

 

Also the GT/CS package cars have the same HP as a standard GT.

 

With just an intake/tune, my SS/TC pulls my intake/exhaust/tune 05 GT by a few cars. Before the intake/tune, the SS/TC couldnt keep up, not from a dig, or roll. Once I get my car back from the dealership I wanna race it again, just to see if the catless DP helped out.

 

sucks lol i've only lost to one mustang and that was when i only had stg2 and intake and it was against the saleen 05+ n/a one.

 

So if you lost to a N/A Saleen, then you would lose against any other 05+ GT. Well you would have, but I'm sure you have more mods now.

 

prolly lol.
i beat a 07 when i put my header, ported s/c, and dp on by a car 40-100.
now a stock ones not worth my time lol

 

From a roll they arent that great, unless modded. I'm sure you just aswell as everyone else knows that they can and have ran 13.5-13.6 in the 1/4 mile stock, which is good enough to beat an SS/TC stock. From a roll I'm sure both the SS/SC and SS/TC could take one stock vs stock. I'm just happy to have a few mods on my SS/TC.

 

Set up a race then meet up with me before hand and I'll flash the Superchips tune to your car lol......See how bad you beat him then .... he won't know what happened. It takes 2 minutes and can be pulled off after the race with no one the wiser.

 

lol of course ik that

 

The stock GT manuals have 3.55s as standard or optional. The stock GT automatics have 3.31s

Everyone that has upgraded to 3.73 or 4.10 rear axle ratios commented that the car should have come from the factory with these gears.

The SS/TC takes off very well but there is the issue of turbo lag. My GT also seems to bog down below 3000 RPM, but the overall feel of the GT and SS/TC are about the same in terms of acceleration. The GT is supposed to do the 0-60 in 4.9 to 5.3 seconds with the SS/TC at about 5.6-6 seconds. The 05-09 GTs are running the 1/4 in low to mid 13s stock, mostly mid to high 13s.

In terms of agility, braking, and "fun", the SS/TC wins hands down. Anyone that disagrees obviously hasn't driven a SS/TC.

 

My best time is 14.25 with a 60' of 2.3x 102 mph

His best time is 13.5 with a 60' of 2.0 103 mph (he usually runs high 13's though)

I still have yet to break into the 13's

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I did some more highway rolls with him today..... about 45 mph

He were dead even... I mean DEAD even all the way to about 120 then i started pullin very slightly and called it quits. He had a passenger in the car though and i did not. What i don't understand is how people are beating these stock unless my engine isn't quite putting out the same power as the rest of you.

Anyhow, i'm getting stage 1 put in next week so i should pull on him.. but it will be interesting to see how much.

I did beat a dodge charger r/t (5.7L) though.. we both spun pretty bad but I freakin short shifted into 2nd gear... Took me over 100 mph to finally pass him to make up for my mistake

 

yeh. i never ran into the gt problem yet

 

As in you always have beatin them or you haven't ran up against one?

If you have beatin one are you modded or stock?

 

Depending on the weight of the person it has little or no effect at all on a V8. 100lbs = 1/10 of a second in the quarter mile. barley enough to make a difference like you were experiencing. Also i have not had the GT problem....or a WRX....Or a forrester(with an STI badge on it WTF) or a Camaro..(92)...

 

Ha 92 camaro.. i had one of those with big drag lookin tires try and take off on me and i was behind him.. I had to slam on my brakes cause he was not accelerating fast enough. He didn't beleive me when i said i almost ran into the back of him. Maybe i can catch you before you put your car away in storage to see if my car is just abnormally slow.

 

you are right. the bullitt and the shelby gt are the only ones with the higher hp. my friend has one and i took his word for it. i guess he paid 2 grand for some scoops and a stripe lol

 

i have raced a few. none of them had anything special just the normal. intake, exhaust.
1 automatic
2manuals

I put buses on one of them. the other 2 were alittle more challenging. but still beat them by 3cars or more.

Im stock still. i can launch my car pretty good from a dig.

 

Catless DP will definately help.

 

If they werent tuned then those mods did next to nothing. The intake can actually hurt their performance without a tune. Many of the mustangs CAI kits can be bought with a tuner

 

have you been to the track?

 

On the street, I find my 07 Mustang GT lacks low end torque. It NEEDS a more aggressive rear axle ratio to launch better. I have 3.55s stock, but with the trans gearing and tire size, I'd estimate 4.10s or 4.56s are in order.

The Cobalt suffers from a bit of turbo lag, especially if you're not launching from first gear. It's hard to describe but if you were doing say, 30 MPH and wanted to accelerate HARD, you'd go into 2nd gear and bog down severely. The owner's manual says not to downshift into 1st above 15 MPH or so.

My Crown Vic actually launches harder than the GT and Cobalt, probably due to its insane gearing setup from the factory. At 75 MPH in overdrive with the converter locked, my engine is churning at nearly 3000 RPM (4.6L V8). (2.84:1 first gear, 3.55 rear).

 

Go get a stage kit and a down pipe.. should solve the problem..

 

i dont think they were tuned. i know the outcome would be a bit different.

yeh. i usally live at the track

 

ok i got stage one.

I put about a bus length on him now by the time i hit 110 or so doing highway rolls.

You guys think that putting a downpipe and intake on there will get me 300 hp to the crank?

 

When my SS/TC was stock, it didnt stand a chance against my 05 GT, not from a roll, and especially not from a dig. I am tuned with just an SCT handheld tuner, but I wouldnt expect it to give me that much more power than a non-tuned GT.

Most people are putting down over 300hp to the wheels with intake, downpipe and a tune.