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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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I dont think so. Bill is testing the stage 1 and getting impressions on it before its released, I believe. Hope Bill dont mind, but Bill is the one who created the Stage kits for the ss/sc!
so wait ur running the new map sensors without a re tune from GM?
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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I thought 09 was the last year.
2010 is the last year for the coupe .
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by reign1
so wait ur running the new map sensors without a re tune from GM?
No my car is stock. The one Bill has and is bringing for me to test drive has the entire kit tune and sensors!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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very cool, will impatiently await post on saturday lol. maybe if it has rpd get some readings off that like egt and stuff compared to stock
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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very cool, will impatiently await post on saturday lol. maybe if it has rpd get some readings off that like egt and stuff compared to stock
I believe bill said it had RPD and possibly LSD. I am taking a note pad, one of the things i want to see is the boost peak. I know a lot of people want to know how much boost and what not! Bill told me more info but i am not sure if its ok to post it!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Ya I would be curious what you think and how much boost one is getting out of the stage 1 kit.

Also I am curious if it would be worth it for me to trade in my balt as it is now and then add in a mod or two on the TC to achieve greater performance.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Have fun!
Maybe find out if the "premium" required is 91 or 93. I'm guessing 91 will work since 93 can be hard to find.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Mosty people are reporting a 1 to 2 mpg improvement once the testosterone has let go of the gas pedal.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FRQ FLYR
Have fun!
Maybe find out if the "premium" required is 91 or 93. I'm guessing 91 will work since 93 can be hard to find.
I am sure Bill could answer that right now! Although I run only 93 in my car!

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rofl
What is so funny? Gaining hp and gaining mpg normally dont go together!
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I am sure Bill could answer that right now! Although I run only 93 in my car!



What is so funny? Gaining hp and gaining mpg normally dont go together!
it will be 91 octane and up. I can promise it.

yea they do. Leaning out the car will give you better gas milage than running it pig rich....
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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yeah we dont have 93.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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yeah we dont have 93.
better get some 110 then
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FRQ FLYR
Have fun!
Maybe find out if the "premium" required is 91 or 93. I'm guessing 91 will work since 93 can be hard to find.
It is designed to run on pump premium. If 91 octane is all you can get in your area then that is ok. People with the display have reported not seeing any knock retard on 93 octane. You might see some on 91.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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More info from Bill
The PSI really depends on weather and temperature because boost pressure is not used to as a calibration control. 22psi is the top I have seen. However it is on a cooler morning. The peak power at 4700 +50 HP at 4700 RPM will be up on GMTunersource.com with a graph by EOD so you can report that.
I asked before i could post this but here is some more info! Quote from Bill!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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It is designed to run on pump premium. If 91 octane is all you can get in your area then that is ok. People with the display have reported not seeing any knock retard on 93 octane. You might see some on 91.
premium is 91. Super is 93.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
premium is 91. Super is 93.
So he is saying its ok to run on 91 but there may be some knock!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
premium is 91. Super is 93.
Not here in Michigan. 93 is Premium
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee
So he is saying its ok to run on 91 but there may be some knock!
There will be some knock activity detected by the sensor but under full control of the calibration and not audible to the driver.
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Originally Posted by KillerBee
Ok so I will be test driving a stage 1 SS/TC tomorrow. I will write a review on what i think of the kit on the car. Just Wanted to let everyone know in advance in case you want me to focus on a particular part of the car. Please post up any suggestions. Thanks to Bill aka More_Torque_More_HP he is driving from Detroit to Lansing to let me drive the car and give my opinion on the kit. This will happen about 2:30pm tomorrow and I will post results back up on Saturday night.


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I might have to report you guys to CARB! Arnold will come after you for ruining the planet before the political gods in California give it their approval!
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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All one can get in most states is 91 octane...I wonder how the thin air in denver will affect all of this.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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I might have to report you guys to CARB! Arnold will come after you for ruining the planet before the political gods in California give it their approval!
Hahah this is Michigan not California! And besides what about those people with after market tunes. I know sarcasm lol
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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So he is saying its ok to run on 91 but there may be some knock!
cobalts always misfire and knock. Doesnt matter what grade u put in, who are u kidding?
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerBee
Hahah this is Michigan not California! And besides what about those people with after market tunes. I know sarcasm lol
No...really...I'm on hold with The Governator's office right now...

Squad car will meet you guys tomorrow evening....
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TrevMo
No...really...I'm on hold with The Governator's office right now...

Squad car will meet you guys tomorrow evening....
They will have to catch us
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