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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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high torque cars with no lsd? one wheel spin/ no traction. Not sure how that tradeoff makes any sense at all
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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I might just ending up breaking 11s this year and keeping it at that. I wanna get a project 1g awd dsm together, but on the other hand I have a feeling I'm gonna break 11s and then wanna go bigger. I'm definitely getting #s for my car some time soon.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
high torque cars with no lsd? one wheel spin/ no traction. Not sure how that tradeoff makes any sense at all
4.45 lsd ftw!

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I might just ending up breaking 11s this year and keeping it at that. I wanna get a project 1g awd dsm together, but on the other hand I have a feeling I'm gonna break 11s and then wanna go bigger. I'm definitely getting #s for my car some time soon.
You should break 11's no problem with the zfr, to break into 10's though you're going to need cams and an eblend.

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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:08 PM
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I might just ending up breaking 11s this year and keeping it at that. I wanna get a project 1g awd dsm together, but on the other hand I have a feeling I'm gonna break 11s and then wanna go bigger. I'm definitely getting #s for my car some time soon.
Don't go to a giant money pit of dsm garbage, you think stuff breaks on a high hp cobalt
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Stuff breaks regardless and any car can be a money pit. Its part of owning a racecar. It doesn't bother me one bit. A 1g DSM has always appealed to me. I'll have one some time.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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Stuff breaks regardless and any car can be a money pit. Its part of owning a racecar. It doesn't bother me one bit. A 1g DSM has always appealed to me. I'll have one some time.
the 1g's are the better platforms...no crankwalk lol
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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The 3.82 is just a ticking time bomb even without a ZFR. If you're still on the stock turbo OP I can't see shelling out the cash for a F40 unless you plan on going for big power.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
high torque cars with no lsd? one wheel spin/ no traction. Not sure how that tradeoff makes any sense at all
You can get the quaife unit in it for LSD, it isnt cheap but.

6 speed LSD , would be pretty hard to top...





Am I missing something.

Most likely still going with you John no worries , just need to know the price on Cyro .

You are right the f40 is ridiculously too much work and money for about the same result. I don't really like having to shift all the time anyway when I am feeling lazy. I used to find the longer gears in my LNF allowed me to pull past others while they usually shift short I am still going and going , in my experiences at least.

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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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The 3.82 is just a ticking time bomb even without a ZFR. If you're still on the stock turbo OP I can't see shelling out the cash for a F40 unless you plan on going for big power.
Well, I plan on over 600 eventually , 650 is my goal .
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Well, I plan on over 600 eventually , 650 is my goal .
Disregard what i said lol I think the F40 would be a good investment then for you.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:15 PM
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You can get the quaife unit in it for LSD, it isnt cheap but.

6 speed LSD , would be pretty hard to top...





Am I missing something.

Most likely still going with you John no worries , just need to know the price on Cyro .

You are right the f40 is ridiculously too much work and money for about the same result. I don't really like having to shift all the time anyway when I am feeling lazy. I used to find the longer gears in my LNF allowed me to pull past others while they usually shift short I am still going and going , in my experiences at least.
i find FSMR Interesting. the only F40 I know of on here the guy waited some time then had to go to ZZP to get the install kit. LSD cost about 1200 from Quaife, I have put a few in Corvettes, its a brilliant piece. I run a unique hi helix Quaife. Its amazing.

but the point is, no one on here has an f40 with LSD that I know of. and running without an LSD is not an option for me. My car came without, it sucked. a quaife was actually the first mod I ever did. in 2006 iirc
gloria now has the pricing on cryo. The thing I am thinking , is not to make it an option. Imay just make all our trans that way. based on what I am finding.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
i find FSMR Interesting. the only F40 I know of on here the guy waited some time then had to go to ZZP to get the install kit. LSD cost about 1200 from Quaife, I have put a few in Corvettes, its a brilliant piece. I run a unique hi helix Quaife. Its amazing.

but the point is, no one on here has an f40 with LSD that I know of. and running without an LSD is not an option for me. My car came without, it sucked. a quaife was actually the first mod I ever did. in 2006 iirc
gloria now has the pricing on cryo. The thing I am thinking , is not to make it an option. Imay just make all our trans that way. based on what I am finding.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...ersion-297887/


Check out this thread I just got done reading, It answers almost everything I could possibly wonder about it and more. It really is looking like the f35 445 just for the shear cost factor.

I mean all said and done you are looking at 1200 Quaife LSD, f40 trans 950 Shipped, LSD install 300, ZZP kit with the good flywheel 2300 so 5 grand for a 6 speed vs about 2500ish. I am not even sure if that covers everything else like new TOB, engagement rod, new clutch .. I mean thats insane for another gear... Rave reviews but holy mother of ...

It might make sense if someone wanted the f35 core but nobody seems to want it
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I wonder how my 4.45 lsd is going to hold at my power level, I'll be running the gmpp though so that should help a lot.
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 11:57 PM
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food for thought, thats 4.05 for the folks with 3.82 who dont like Short gears.

a 4.45 tvs blower redline sees off a 3.82 bolted big turbo LNF. The race is over, when the LNF catches up at warp speed. ET rules.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 01:23 PM
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food for thought, thats 4.05 for the folks with 3.82 who dont like Short gears.

a 4.45 tvs blower redline sees off a 3.82 bolted big turbo LNF. The race is over, when the LNF catches up at warp speed. ET rules.


I wish I could decipher that graph LOL
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo

I wish I could decipher that graph LOL
What do you need explained? Its first through fifth gear with the rpm and mph range. Gears are accordingly put first through fifth left to right.

Ex. Fifth gear at 70mph in a 4.05 is approx 3k rpms.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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What do you need explained? Its first through fifth gear with the rpm and mph range. Gears are accordingly put first through fifth left to right.

Ex. Fifth gear at 70mph in a 4.05 is approx 3k rpms.
I see it now. I guess in the map legend if it said 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th would of made more immediate sense.

I was looking for something comparing 4.05 to 4.45 , I found a half way decent used 4.05
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Originally Posted by Wert842
I might just ending up breaking 11s this year and keeping it at that. I wanna get a project 1g awd dsm together, but on the other hand I have a feeling I'm gonna break 11s and then wanna go bigger. I'm definitely getting #s for my car some time soon.
I had a 1g dsm with jdm evo 3 motor. guess not all are the same but that thing was a major money pit. mostly because the person who had it before he had no fricken Idea what they were doing. and a mouse had lived in it at some point, so had to take interior totally apart to clean it out. had smaller than stock turbo, exhaust was all different sizes from manifold back. wiring was ****, which was easy to fix. **** for seats, running so rich that on 12 psi my friends grand am totally smoked me. like I mean a stock 130hp car could have taken it. yup that thing was black hole. I got it decently running and fixed up good before I blew fuel line, which I should have addressed but hadent gotten to it, and it burned to the ground. best thing that ever happened. lol
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 10:03 PM
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I had a 1g dsm with jdm evo 3 motor. guess not all are the same but that thing was a major money pit. mostly because the person who had it before he had no fricken Idea what they were doing. and a mouse had lived in it at some point, so had to take interior totally apart to clean it out. had smaller than stock turbo, exhaust was all different sizes from manifold back. wiring was ****, which was easy to fix. **** for seats, running so rich that on 12 psi my friends grand am totally smoked me. like I mean a stock 130hp car could have taken it. yup that thing was black hole. I got it decently running and fixed up good before I blew fuel line, which I should have addressed but hadent gotten to it, and it burned to the ground. best thing that ever happened. lol
lol great story with a mercy killing and an insurance payoff!!
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Unfortunately no, I got nothing, I took the risk and was testing a mod I had finished Down my gravel road when it happened. Ended up getting a driving unregistered Vehical ticket. Cop said I could give u more but I think uv suffered enough . I was actually pretty happy. One guy there was telling the cop he had seen me racing, which was total bs lol didn't even have the color of the car right. I said the car isn't even tuned or ready to be on the road really, why would I race it. Cop took my side.
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awww. sad panda lol but you were lucky just the same
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Yup. I carry 2 fire extinguishers in my trunk now lol.
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Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...ersion-297887/


Check out this thread I just got done reading, It answers almost everything I could possibly wonder about it and more. It really is looking like the f35 445 just for the shear cost factor.

I mean all said and done you are looking at 1200 Quaife LSD, f40 trans 950 Shipped, LSD install 300, ZZP kit with the good flywheel 2300 so 5 grand for a 6 speed vs about 2500ish. I am not even sure if that covers everything else like new TOB, engagement rod, new clutch .. I mean thats insane for another gear... Rave reviews but holy mother of ...

It might make sense if someone wanted the f35 core but nobody seems to want it
actually,the zzp kit gives you everything, including a new clutch that will hold your power. IMO the quaife is making the money difference.
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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actually,the zzp kit gives you everything, including a new clutch that will hold your power. IMO the quaife is making the money difference.
Yeah after reading the dual mass is where its at I don't care for the fidanza one really, If the quaife lsd wasnt 1100 you are right , it would be a no brainer.
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Old Mar 23, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Lol at the DMF. I hate the things, soooo heavy and difficult to deal with. I will take clutch chatter and gear rattle over a DMF. At the end of the day folks will do what they wish, and anyone who springs for an F40 is hardly going to say they made a mistake....FYI the SAAB F40 guys ditch the DMF ASAP when doing a clutch change

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