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Is 400 HP and TQ easily obtainable?

Old Nov 15, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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Is 400 HP and TQ easily obtainable?

Is 400 HP and 400 TQ easily obtainable with bolt ons and a tune?




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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Yes it's called the ZFR (zzp bolt on turbo upgrade).

The LSJ is the SS/SC engine the LNF is the SS/TC engine so yes you're correct.
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Thank you!


What's the difference of Hahn VS ZZP?

I already have Hahn exhaust on my LNF and was wondering if I should just go Hahn everything but then I see a lot of people run ZZP...

Also! A first upgrade! Should I go intake? or upgrade the intercooler? Could I go straight ahead and get the GM Tune for 290 HP and 320 TQ with everything stock?

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Go to crateenginedepot.com and get the GMS1 sensors then get a custom tune. An intake and charge piping is recommend but not needed. An intercooler would also be a nice upgrade, I believe ZZP sells the charge piping and intercooler as a kit.

Then get a custom tune, if you go HP tuners you'll get more out of the car but it'll cost more. A Trifecta tune is cheaper and most people are satisfied by them although the response time can be bad.

I'd personally go with ZZP for most of your parts, Hahn has fallen out of touch since a family member died. I believe you can only order from them by e-mail although Powell products are the same way.

If you're going to modify the suspension you have to decide what you want, low, handling or a compromise of them both. For low you're best off getting coilovers or H&R springs. For all out handling the best you can get is YYZ springs and Koni front and rear shocks/struts. Lastly a nice compromise is SSC springs. I'd also get rotated transmission mounts (either ZZP or Powell, I'd get Powell) and a rear swaybar, Powell once again. For preventative maintenance I recommend replacing the control arm bushings as at 50k miles yours are probably already going bad. Powell sells a set with a lifetime warranty and they are a great upgrade although solid Moog bushings are much cheaper but not as durable. If you really want you can also replace the rear beam bushing, recommend Powell there again.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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With the GMS1 sensors, I have to take it to the GM dealership and they do the rest for me? Along with a HP tune and this lovely package?

ZZPerformance - LNF Turbo Upgrade #ZZ-LNFTBUG

I can hit my goal of 400 WHP?

and what about tires? Should I throw some E/T streets on the front and be fine?
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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And I know it can't be just that simple...

There has got to be many baby steps in between...

Hmm...
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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ZZPerformance - ZFR Turbo #ZZ-ZFR
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Wow thank you!

Do you know if I can achieve my goals with pump gas?
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Not easily obtainable on pump gas unless you have E.

I to this day I have no idea why people have a set goal of hp of what they want. Its completely dumbfounding people set a goal for a number compared to having something with a ton of usable power...

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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Lol it just feels good to set a goal or mile stone
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I'll leave this here for you to help you understand

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I'm having trouble reaching 400Tq with pump gas and meth. Thinking i may have to run e47.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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read some of the threads on here. Its been covered a lot and should answer all your questions! Good luck!
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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Thanks a lot SunburstSS! Wow and you have ZFR Turbo, ZZP Catted Downpipe, ZZP Full Intercooler Package and with all of that made 355 Whp / 327 Wtrq and on a conservative tune... I likey!

When purchasing the ZFR... what in the world is a "90 degree Coupler for ZZP Charge Tubes" for $35.00 more? lol
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2009BlackTC
Oh thank you!


What's the difference of Hahn VS ZZP?

I already have Hahn exhaust on my LNF and was wondering if I should just go Hahn everything but then I see a lot of people run ZZP...

Also! A first upgrade! Should I go intake? or upgrade the intercooler? Could I go straight ahead and get the GM Tune for 290 HP and 320 TQ with everything stock?

I'm a noob and need a map... lol
Hahn is over priced in a lot of stuff. stay away from their charge pipe and intake, its made of a carbon steel, its stronger than pipes made of aluminum but heavier and it rusts. more than one person on here had theirs rust. my lower charge pipe was filled with rust. go with zzp stuff rather.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tomj77
Hahn is over priced in a lot of stuff. stay away from their charge pipe and intake, its made of a carbon steel, its stronger than pipes made of aluminum but heavier and it rusts. more than one person on here had theirs rust. my lower charge pipe was filled with rust. go with zzp stuff rather.
Thank you Tom! I'll remember this!
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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400 is easily attainable on a 6758 with a good tuner on 93. note i said with a good tuner.

zzp, werks, injen, all make good charge pipes, k&n intake is really the only good option.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2009BlackTC
Thanks a lot SunburstSS! Wow and you have ZFR Turbo, ZZP Catted Downpipe, ZZP Full Intercooler Package and with all of that made 355 Whp / 327 Wtrq and on a conservative tune... I likey!

When purchasing the ZFR... what in the world is a "90 degree Coupler for ZZP Charge Tubes" for $35.00 more? lol
If you have a zzp upper charge pipe you will need the 90 coupler, if you have another company's you use the other coupler.

Like others have stated on 93 octane 400/400 will be tough, with E it's very obtainable. Why don't you research some more, buy a zfr and install it to see how you like the power before you make such a goal.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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I'd just start with some bolt-ons and a tune before you even think about a bigger turbo.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bmartz1991
I'd just start with some bolt-ons and a tune before you even think about a bigger turbo.
I agree with b-man over here Eitherway the ZFR is a bolt on and will be compatible with everything else anyways !
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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Any specific list to follow when buying mods? Such as... say charge pipe first, then inter cooler second, etc. or is there no way I can mess up with the order of bolt ons I get? lol
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Get and intake, downpipe, charge pipes and a tune. Get comfortable with the car and then go bigger.
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Go to crateenginedepot.com and get the GMS1 sensors then get a custom tune. An intake and charge piping is recommend but not needed. An intercooler would also be a nice upgrade, I believe ZZP sells the charge piping and intercooler as a kit.

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I'd personally go with ZZP for most of your parts, Hahn has fallen out of touch since a family member died. I believe you can only order from them by e-mail although Powell products are the same way.

If you're going to modify the suspension you have to decide what you want, low, handling or a compromise of them both. For low you're best off getting coilovers or H&R springs. For all out handling the best you can get is YYZ springs and Koni front and rear shocks/struts. Lastly a nice compromise is SSC springs. I'd also get rotated transmission mounts (either ZZP or Powell, I'd get Powell) and a rear swaybar, Powell once again. For preventative maintenance I recommend replacing the control arm bushings as at 50k miles yours are probably already going bad. Powell sells a set with a lifetime warranty and they are a great upgrade although solid Moog bushings are much cheaper but not as durable. If you really want you can also replace the rear beam bushing, recommend Powell there again.
https://www.google.com/search?q=all+...m=122&ie=UTF-8
Would these be the suspension to get for all out handling?

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/supp...ackage-299575/
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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No you want the springs and then you want Koni struts and shocks
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get the package with the yyz springs already in it.
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