no im telling u as i was an srt-4 driver and owned the car,the 2nd gear roll would be better cuz 3rd gear sucks in that car! i know from experience cuz i raced plenty of cars in 2nd gear rolls and i destroyed alot of cars...ive tried 3rd gear a couple of times and i didnt get a full spool like i did when i was in 2nd ... remember the cobalt and srt-4 has different gear ratios!... my srt-4 had an intake, no tune! when i raced majority of the cars and i didnt use brake boost! never did never will cuz thats dangerous in the srt-4s.. when i mean this is because the vaccum line going into the master pops off which can cause u 2 not have brakes...

 

An intake? That's it? Yes, a bone stock SRT is better in 2nd gear cuz it makes crap for power. My SRT is running on e85, and my tuner is reluctant to give me a boost-by-gear setup. As such, my 2nd gear is worthless on the street. It hits 20psi and just pegs the rev limiter, causing me to try and guess when to shift into 3rd. My 3rd gear is a monster, and my 4th pulls even harder if you can believe that.

When you actually make good power (300+) in the SRT, you'll find 3rd gear is great. That is until you start pushing past 450, then you'll find that 90mph rolls are the only place you dont spin, lol.

 

yea but the kid he raced doesnt have more than 450hp so he would dominate in a 2nd gear roll to a cobalt ss t/c with a tune, full exhaust and intercooler piping, i know the kid in real life

 

I'm around 400whp and I can forget about trying a roll anywhere in 2nd on street ties as cold as it has been...

 

yea what about hot weather?

 

It will have a pull, but still spins all the way through iit. No matter the weather at correct speeds 3rd is better..not out of gear like 3rd at 40mph.

 

yea whats in ur car tell me ur mods?

 

 

One thing I hate about srt4z r those damn intake manifolds lol. There hidious, nothing on u. I ike srt 4 just wouldn't own one. So who and want r u tuned with ^^^^^disguise

 

DSP by Nigel (Turbo666)

 

I really didn't even consider a 50 trim all that big. I must have missed something :P

 

they have upgrade intake manifolds for the srt-4s...looks something simliar to the hahn one on cobalts but rounder...Darrell *** Racing - Pro Series Intake Manifold (Powered by CubeCart)

 

My bov doesn't open during shifting. This is without NLS. When i shift 1-2 i go straight to limiter. And i'm not full spooling till very late in the 5s. So I would say you don't loose much. 2-3 i never drop below 12 psi on a 17 lb wastegate and 3-4 is only 2 psi maybe. That's all without NLS on a super late spooling car. Just sayin

 

Darrell *** Racing - Modified Stock Intake (Powered by CubeCart)

 

Now id buy. Srt 4 lmao jk. That intake looks clean. I've seen it before on my buddys srt.

 

joey you dont know **** im sorry, you claimed a front mount intercooler would be better then a top mount on a monster of a turbo sti

i have 2.5 CIA performance option piping, i like the input here, and im not sayin i won or anything cause we didnt go to redline in 4th gear, but until we let off it was dead even, if we continued ya his turbo has more top end he probally would of pulled on me, but i dont feel like it would of been alot, im pretty stoked tho

him, also a agp .50trim, big ol intercooler, perrin pressure pipe with hks bov, rc750 injectors, aem intake, msd coils and ignition, turbonectics wastegate and dump tube, walbro 255 pump with a return fuel system, coilovers could be one or two more im missing

oh yea my second gear likes to spin a little also joey lol just a little though really, like a tiny bit

 

I say its just a srt 4 but I know of one that has 600whp where I live

 

I've been watching some turbo swapped SRT accel vids and I'm surprised, alot seem slower than they should be..

 

Thats because people run them untuned or put a 35r on there and only run 15psi. The proper built and tuned ones are monsters. Like here is one on a 255 borg warner agp style turbo beating z06's

YouTube - Tkilla vs 500hp c6 Z06 vs 440hp vette

 

You either didn't read what i said, or didn't quite comprehend it. I'm saying 2nd gear "feels fast" when you aren't making any power. The only reason your 3rd gear felt slow was because your car was slow. I'm only making 340 to the wheels, and my 2nd gear will spin right to the rev limiter on the street.

Most fwd cars over 300whp will start to experience problems in the lower gears unless they have a good way to keep power under control.

Check out this poorly made race video that illustrates my point (my buddy doesnt know how to hold an iphone sideways apparently). The Yellow SRT is your typical 'bad modder'. He throws in a WGA, intercooler, exhaust, turns up the boost, tears out a bunch of vacuum lines and thinks his car is actually fast. We went from a 40 roll, and the video starts right after the 3rd honk. Notice how he immediately pulls because he has traction and i'm sitting on the rev limiter. Then watch as his poorly modded car falls flat in 3rd gear while i pull away like he's standing still.

 

Shouldn't this thread be on srtforums?

 

OP drives a Cobalt..

Move along, ya hear..

 

glenn do u know why i deleted my comments on matts page,cuz i didnt feel the need to argue between both u and matt.if ur telling me the front mount above the motor with less intercooler piping is better and will not lag like a front mount setup ur definitely wrong and so is matt! u pretty much make the same gains from a front mount and a top mount, even with a top mount u will spool quicker,but their is no need to use a bigger top mount on a stock turbo!,also with a top mount u run into issues with heat soak and lower boost levels from the heat,now with a front mount u do have more extra piping,but the extra piping is bigger if u go aftermarket which saves up for it..and u have high boost levels and less heat soak.. but u may loose like 1 psi on that setup... but u still make the same gains! and with both setups u may see 200rpm difference for quicker spool... this is why i say its better to have a front mount because its in the proper position...not for looks!... this is like a short ram intake vs a cold air... a short ram takes in the hot air from the motor which makes the turbo hotter and motor hotter! mean while with a cold air intake,takes in cold air and helps cool the motor and turbo

 

How dare you speak to a 7-year member of srtforums like that.

 

and u have higher boost levels and i forgot to say even if u lose 1.5 on the extra piping u still can make up for it with another mod