91 Octane
91 Octane
Hey guys im really close to getting a new cobalt ss but i have a quick question. I hear that the manual reccomends 93 octane but the highest we have here is 91. Would it be bad for the motor, or is their anything i could do to help it? Thanks.
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From: NEPA
Nope, there are 4 timing tables but all are done by cam position not high octane and low octane tables like the LSJ and LS series GM cars have.
Are you serious.
The stock tune is silly lean and your running 87 octane in it. I hope your pistons like all that knock they are seeing. Mine had 3* or KR at 3-4K RPMS on 93 octane. I would hate to see a log of your car at WOT on 87 octane we are talking 8-10* or KR so you might have 2* of advance max at WOT.
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Yeah, my car is way more responsive on 87 octane, I ran a 1/4 mile in 13.8@ 108mph whereas using 92 octane got me a time of 14.1@ 104mph
And I made multiple passes using each gas. 87 is the bestest.
And I made multiple passes using each gas. 87 is the bestest.
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From: NEPA
running 87 in a car that is tuned for 91 or higher will result in the car pulling timing. there is no way in hell 87 makes your car run better than 91 or 93.
Your car trapped 108 mph stock? I call BS unless you have a video of it. There are guys that are tuned that are running only 107-108 mph and they have 50 whp 80 wtrq more than your car.
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From: NEPA
When I bought my car the stupid dealer put 87 in it and let me tell you it probably would have run a 15 sec QM at 90 mph with that crap in there you could feel the car pulling a ton of timing. I was very slow I almost did not buy it.
I trapped 104.5 and I had to hit 4th for that.
BS on trap speed..
He probably got a better launch or some **** when he changed fuels...
If your running a high performance car, with LOW GRADE (your not even using mid for chris sake) you are a moron...
There are about 10 factual reasons why higher octane will run better than lower octane..
He probably got a better launch or some **** when he changed fuels...
If your running a high performance car, with LOW GRADE (your not even using mid for chris sake) you are a moron...
There are about 10 factual reasons why higher octane will run better than lower octane..
Oh come on if you cant see 87oct in a FI car being f'd up thats ridiculous. I mean I know FI noobs ask the question etc but its common sense 87 will not optimize the car.
Yeah E85 would be sweet but I dont know how much needs to get upgraded to push it through the DI engine. I dont think Ive ever seen a ms3 running it either... Lots of Hondas up near me are running it though.
Yeah E85 would be sweet but I dont know how much needs to get upgraded to push it through the DI engine. I dont think Ive ever seen a ms3 running it either... Lots of Hondas up near me are running it though.
Oh come on if you cant see 87oct in a FI car being f'd up thats ridiculous. I mean I know FI noobs ask the question etc but its common sense 87 will not optimize the car.
Yeah E85 would be sweet but I dont know how much needs to get upgraded to push it through the DI engine. I dont think Ive ever seen a ms3 running it either... Lots of Hondas up near me are running it though.
Yeah E85 would be sweet but I dont know how much needs to get upgraded to push it through the DI engine. I dont think Ive ever seen a ms3 running it either... Lots of Hondas up near me are running it though.
. Point being if people understood what is happening they would be far less likely to question the octane levels. At least in this case the OP is making sure 91 is ok...typically these threads are "Can I run 87 in an SC/TC".



