Don't judge it without trying it.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Damn... I guess CED is all wrong.

*# Kit disables "learn down feature"
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P2292C196.aspx

 

I'm just trying to point out how worthless this thread and others like it are.

 

Your mom is worthless for having you.

 

I'm guessing you're 18.

 

http://gmtunersource.com/index.php/b...s-with-gm-hpvo

 

People are completely misinterpreting what Bill Duncan said in an earlier post. They think "turbo overspool safeties" means "learn down". That's plain wrong; it WILL protect the motor if it sees unsafe levels of boost but then again, which modification are you adding that would allow increased boost levels, the wastegate is electronically controlled. If you're improving flow it will NOT learn down the benefits. I think people are expecting to throw a DP, charge piping and intake on this car and see an increase of 60hp. That's simply not going to happen but I'm sure the argument will continue...

 

WOW, you need to stop posting asap. Why do you think folks place drag-bags in the rear springs of a FWD car when drag racing? So more weight is over the front wheels. Drag-bags also decrease weight transfer which is beneficial for launching a FWD car you douche-funnel!

 

I think I have the answer to this weight reduction problem.

if you remove weight from the the front, then you will get less traction and very horrible handling unless you get a new suspenion to match.

if you remove weight from the rear of the car then you will get better traction but suffer in the handling department again.

removing weight in the front will cause the center weight to shift towards the rear of the car, amount dependent on how much you remove. You will also experience even more understeer than a FWD car normally comes with.

removing weight in the rear will cause the center weight to shift towards the front of the car, amount dependent on how much you remove. You will also experience an oversteer quality that most FWD cars normally DONT come with.

Now of the two location to remove weight, removing weight in the front might balance the cars center of gravity, and sacrifice acceleration, and sacrifice handling, but you will get even tire wear <-- benefit.

removing weight in the rear might cause the cars center of gravity to shift towards the front benefiting line acceleration from a stop (good for drag racing <-- benefit), and sacrifice handling, and increase tire wear on the front tires. Also for our cars, oversteer is looked at in a positive way for handling. not too much though, oversteer in a FWD vs RWD are two totally different things. RWD can control it, FWD can not.

 

You're an idiot.

 

get charge piping,catless downpipe and an intercooler

 

Wow...a lot of fail for one thread...
Cudajoe, I cant believe you took the time to try and explain things to some of these people. Thank you though...I doubt it will sink in but your a better person then me for TRY to explain things . I wonder how much longer helpful, intelligent people will keep coming here.
Soooo wait...Removing seats to save weight is "rice"
but removing it to hear the turbo better is not.
And you wonder why cobalts get disrespected all the time.

 

No, they're both "rice."

Exactly what I was saying. Read "making this site look bad."

 

lmao. Yes because doing something that no one else sees is rice. You guys are morons and just immediately call anything you wouldn't do on your car "rice."

 

the argument will still continue.. the best part is - anyone who thinks they know - don't.

 

lol this is funny. ppl e-fighting about strangers cars that they themselves do not pay for at all, or don't have to even look at. idiots.

 

Shut up, foo. Nobody's talking to you.

 

wow, you sure know how to make friends here..., no one likes a wise ass , u should let people have their say, we are all here to have fun and talk about our experiences,

onto more important things.... I have the gms1 also, do u think adding a k & n drop in will add power, maybe.... since learn down is disabled??

 

Make a new thread. This thread is played out.

 

apparently according to the link posted above, learn down is disabled. but the turbo will still self preserve.. so while yes boltons would make more power, there is some limit i guess

a k&n drop in filter might net you 2hp..