Cold Air Intake - Cobalt SS TC plz post here
08-07-2009, 02:16 PM
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I dont know that i'd put a honeycomb on a FI car. I've seen several posts before on other message boards of them being "ingested." not actually sucked in, but them dislodged from their mount the attempt to suck them in made. I'll search EvoM later and try to find some pics
08-07-2009, 03:57 PM
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GM actually makes "screen" for intakes... There was a vendor on the ms3 forums that put it in theirs and said it helped... but not sure how much it would help airflowbeing less than 1mm thick.
Ah here it is:
http://www.pt-performance.com/showPr...cID=11&pID=247
"The screen is a GM repair part that I bought a ton of. It made a world of difference and to be honest with you, I thing the car runs better then it ever has."
Ah here it is:
http://www.pt-performance.com/showPr...cID=11&pID=247
"The screen is a GM repair part that I bought a ton of. It made a world of difference and to be honest with you, I thing the car runs better then it ever has."
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08-08-2009, 04:19 PM
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08-08-2009, 04:27 PM
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Look at CP-E's intake statement :
Also I will restate what I have said before. Just because it does not throw a cel does NOT mean it is working properly. The a/f ratio can still be way out of whack. This is exactly what is happening with CIA's sri.
The warranty voiding...do you know how the warranty works? have you yourself read the fine print? They can not void over a intake unless that was caused the problem and they can prove it. A tune like HPTuners is technically "hacking" the ecu to get around the current security on it. Its just like hacking a xbox or wii. Yes it can be done, yes it works, but it breaks the warranty.
Also I will restate what I have said before. Just because it does not throw a cel does NOT mean it is working properly. The a/f ratio can still be way out of whack. This is exactly what is happening with CIA's sri.
The warranty voiding...do you know how the warranty works? have you yourself read the fine print? They can not void over a intake unless that was caused the problem and they can prove it. A tune like HPTuners is technically "hacking" the ecu to get around the current security on it. Its just like hacking a xbox or wii. Yes it can be done, yes it works, but it breaks the warranty.
08-09-2009, 04:44 PM
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apparently you can try and point stuff out but then dont explain?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-10-ss-turbocharged-general-discussion-152/heres-good-issue-concerning-cobalt-tuning-183293/
I've read the warranty fine print...have you?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-10-ss-turbocharged-general-discussion-152/heres-good-issue-concerning-cobalt-tuning-183293/
I've read the warranty fine print...have you?
08-10-2009, 12:55 AM
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Bill heres my 2 cents
I've run almost every combination you can imagine. K&N-Snorkle (runs fine no issues)Short CAI/W MAF in stock position(Works Fine, Tip in throttle whistle is annoying) Long CAI/W MAF in stock location and filter down in the pocket.(Ran Like Dog ****, LT fuel trims all outa whack) Long CAI with MAF moved 6 inches further downstream (the best as far as a CAI setup, however high risk of sucking water because it shoots right past the fog lamp at the filter, first hand experience on this one.) And currently Stock Airbox-Snorkle with full 3 inch tube froom the turbo to the airbox with a KN drop in. (This is the best so far. Stable fuel trims, No whistle, and I can tell it flows as hard as a full cai or a shorty)
I am using a modular system so I can move pieces all around.
Bill give me a call
D.R.
I've run almost every combination you can imagine. K&N-Snorkle (runs fine no issues)Short CAI/W MAF in stock position(Works Fine, Tip in throttle whistle is annoying) Long CAI/W MAF in stock location and filter down in the pocket.(Ran Like Dog ****, LT fuel trims all outa whack) Long CAI with MAF moved 6 inches further downstream (the best as far as a CAI setup, however high risk of sucking water because it shoots right past the fog lamp at the filter, first hand experience on this one.) And currently Stock Airbox-Snorkle with full 3 inch tube froom the turbo to the airbox with a KN drop in. (This is the best so far. Stable fuel trims, No whistle, and I can tell it flows as hard as a full cai or a shorty)
I am using a modular system so I can move pieces all around.
Bill give me a call
D.R.
08-10-2009, 08:57 AM
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No water ingestion either. With the short ram Im pretty comfortable that no water will be getting up there.
The intake is a bit tricky to line up right when installing, I think thats where people were running into problems. So far mine has been great. I also had it on when I dyno'd the car and my AF ratio was almost perfect.
Im very happy with my Dejon, and Im curious to see how it interacts with my Stage 1!
11-06-2009, 01:02 PM
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ive had a hahn for about 1,000 miles now and no issues, sounds awesome. Felt the difference the first night i put it on, but after the learn down it feels the same, but sounds awesome.
I think the whoosh sound is normal as it has to get a flow going in the bigger tube. I am probably wrong tho, but that was the sense i made out of it.
I think the whoosh sound is normal as it has to get a flow going in the bigger tube. I am probably wrong tho, but that was the sense i made out of it.
11-06-2009, 04:42 PM
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That is the truth. Especially when your car is a fussy as this one is. GM should have thrown a laminar flow straightner in with the MAF to help keep the MAF happy. Even throwing in a K&N drop in makes a 5% difference in the reading the MAF sees. If you take the filter out and log it the LTFT will go to -9 because of turbulance at the MAF. I did that once just to log the effects I drove for approx 5 miles like that then put the filter back in.
11-06-2009, 06:12 PM
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I have a CIA Cold air , I am leaning toward putting the stock airbox back on every day I drive it . The car doesn't seam to pull as hard in the heat , the outside temperature if it is above 45 F The car just acts slow and doesn't pull as hard at all that and it doesn't really hold boost as well as It should ..
all CAI's suck IMHO I wish I would have never of bought that POS
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...9&postcount=68
If you care to look at the horror story ^ that will give you the full story .
all CAI's suck IMHO I wish I would have never of bought that POS
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...9&postcount=68
If you care to look at the horror story ^ that will give you the full story .
11-06-2009, 08:20 PM
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I have the dejon intake.....Havent really had any problems with it outside of fitment issues. Once in a while it will feel a little sluggish, but thats it. I love the sound of the sri aswell..
02-07-2010, 11:22 PM
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doesnt the injen intake have a "step down" when it gets to the MAF sensor to "trick" the brain into thinking its the stock air intake? im not sure if im right but i do kno it has a step down at the MAF.
02-08-2010, 12:13 PM
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No, TOFU had an Injen and he saw big losses in midrange Torque and HP even when tuned for the intake. The modded airbox flows more air then most will ever need and will cause the least driveability and tuning headaches. That being said, my car was still a little faster on the AEM intake vs the modded airbox but the filter got wet because it was right behind the fog light and there were surging issues on cold starts with the AEM.
02-08-2010, 01:49 PM
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No, TOFU had an Injen and he saw big losses in midrange Torque and HP even when tuned for the intake. The modded airbox flows more air then most will ever need and will cause the least driveability and tuning headaches. That being said, my car was still a little faster on the AEM intake vs the modded airbox but the filter got wet because it was right behind the fog light and there were surging issues on cold starts with the AEM.
02-08-2010, 03:06 PM
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