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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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I don't think 1.6 to 1.7 will be a problem, on a 40 degree night with no prep, and really my first time running the tires I managed a 1.828, so these tires have plenty of grip.

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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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So would more side wall put less shock on the tranny, given it will hook hard.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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So would more side wall put less shock on the tranny, given it will hook hard.
In theary, yes. But I think the 24.5's are plenty

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Nice to see progress miller! Couple questions though... did you use the LSJ rotors too? And is the caliper bracket needed to bolt up? I haven't had a chance to take a look at my car thanks to the weather. I have the calipers setting around, just need to get the time to take a look at it. And I need my wheels. What wheels are those too?
Full lsj setup, calipers rotor and bracket. The only reason there not on yet is I noticed that the lsj bolts don't go through the knucle into the bracket far enough for me. So I went to a local bolt company and they have the same grade 10.9 bolts about a half inch longer, will be getting them soon and get these things on. The wheels are american racing coil, 15x7.5. Pretty light but not as light as the centerline storms. But these only cost me 195 shipped from summit and the storms are 199 a piece.

Originally Posted by OntarioKev
I don't think 1.6 to 1.7 will be a problem, on a 40 degree night with no prep, and really my first time running the tires I managed a 1.828, so these tires have plenty of grip.

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Yea they are super sticky. The stock turbo set went 1.65 on them. He has coilovers tho.

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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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wow... that's all I can say.. so you totally defeated the purpose of having a the brembos and is turning a specifially designed car for autox and road racing and turned it into a drag car... congrats! why not buy a car from the beginning that is meant to go in a straight line? and ppl wonder why they have issues with their cars lol..
Thats awful logic!
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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So, I need the rotors and brackets still? And what about the bolts? The LNF bolts, nor the LSJ bolts won't work?
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 11:11 PM
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So, I need the rotors and brackets still? And what about the bolts? The LNF bolts, nor the LSJ bolts won't work?
The LNF bolts are bolts are American and a little different thread. Yes you need the rotors and brackets. There is about a 1/2 inch differance in the rotors. I will talk to the bolt guy again, but won't be till Monday. Maybe I can buy a box and get you some or you buy staight from him. The lsj bolts work they just don't go in the bracket far enough for my liking.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:41 AM
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Thats awful logic!
I'm sorry cmiller, I didn't mean to come off as an ass, my apologies. To each his own on what he/she wants to do. I just stated my opinion on the matter.

As far as awful logic.. Do you not understand what was meant from my coment? If a vehicle was engineered around a race track, where is the logic in turning this car into a drag car? Or vice versa. If you want to build a car for a purpose why not start on a platfrom in which it favors? This is my logic on the matter. So enlighten me on how it is awful?

I don't mean to sound like an ass. I just hate seeing cars that are designed to do something and yet it is used for another purpose. And I would not take a 10sec EVO, i've gone through taking care of a heavily modded car and it is nothing but problems. I will never do it again! lol.. The tune is the farthest i'll take my SS to.

So with this said, my apologies once again...
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Good work man.... I hope for yoursake you are looking into axles and such... I know our axles are strong but that is alot of NOW added force that weren't there before.

Good luck on your 11s endeavor.... I hope you get it. if I decide to do slicks 11s will be in my future this year as well!

Cept in a 4dr family wagon... LOL
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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I'm sorry cmiller, I didn't mean to come off as an ass, my apologies. To each his own on what he/she wants to do. I just stated my opinion on the matter.

As far as awful logic.. Do you not understand what was meant from my coment? If a vehicle was engineered around a race track, where is the logic in turning this car into a drag car? Or vice versa. If you want to build a car for a purpose why not start on a platfrom in which it favors? This is my logic on the matter. So enlighten me on how it is awful?

I don't mean to sound like an ass. I just hate seeing cars that are designed to do something and yet it is used for another purpose. And I would not take a 10sec EVO, i've gone through taking care of a heavily modded car and it is nothing but problems. I will never do it again! lol.. The tune is the farthest i'll take my SS to.

So with this said, my apologies once again...
Its alright.

Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
Good work man.... I hope for yoursake you are looking into axles and such... I know our axles are strong but that is alot of NOW added force that weren't there before.

Good luck on your 11s endeavor.... I hope you get it. if I decide to do slicks 11s will be in my future this year as well!

Cept in a 4dr family wagon... LOL
Thank you and good luck to you as well

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Rofl axles?

Really?

Trans is gonna hate you dude.

Way to drag the car though man, you know what you wanna do with it and don't **** around trying to make it a drag car.

Good luck strippin it this year man
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mron0903
I'm sorry cmiller, I didn't mean to come off as an ass, my apologies. To each his own on what he/she wants to do. I just stated my opinion on the matter.

As far as awful logic.. Do you not understand what was meant from my coment? If a vehicle was engineered around a race track, where is the logic in turning this car into a drag car? Or vice versa. If you want to build a car for a purpose why not start on a platfrom in which it favors? This is my logic on the matter. So enlighten me on how it is awful?

I don't mean to sound like an ass. I just hate seeing cars that are designed to do something and yet it is used for another purpose. And I would not take a 10sec EVO, i've gone through taking care of a heavily modded car and it is nothing but problems. I will never do it again! lol.. The tune is the farthest i'll take my SS to.

So with this said, my apologies once again...
Do you understand though how many cars throughout history have been used for something other than what it was engineered for? Thats like saying, this car was engineered for 260hp, so dont mod it at all. Or how about a Chevy Monza? Those make great drag cars, but were they meant to be? No. The list of cars "not engineered" for drag racing that are used for drag racing goes on and on and on. If its a fast car and you want to drag it rather than autox, than do it.... and if mods need to be made here and there to accomodate it, thats racing.

Im saying you were being an ass, but if its his car why criticize what he wants to do with it? Are you paying his car payment? lol
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
Rofl axles?

Really?

Trans is gonna hate you dude.

Way to drag the car though man, you know what you wanna do with it and don't **** around trying to make it a drag car.

Good luck strippin it this year man
Yea but zp has already went stock axles and trans at 500hp. I won't be near that
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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As far as YOU know.

They don't tell delve in info that isn't engine related.

They have said it indirectly in some of their postings.

By my count, a trans has been sacrificed
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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I mean it can happen. We will just have to see lol.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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He's trying to run 11's, do you think he doesn't realize the potential for breaking parts is high? Why do people insist on hating so hard on this site

GL Cmiller! Id like to see more LNF's in the 11's this season
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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FAIL
Meh, the brake pads will carve that paint off real fast so no big deal.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Some of the comments here are unreal ...... Do you see what he's trying to do? Who cares about the Brembo's ..... The LSJ actually stopped one foot shorter 60-0 in test's done by the C&D. Some of the comments are laughable.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Yea but zp has already went stock axles and trans at 500hp. I won't be near that
Actually, they are on their 'upgraded transmission'. I put that in quotes because I am not sure what that entails. I do know they are using an LSJ final drive, other than that, I haven't a clue.

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Some of the comments here are unreal ...... Do you see what he's trying to do? Who cares about the Brembo's ..... The LSJ actually stopped one foot shorter 60-0 in test's done by the C&D. Some of the comments are laughable.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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if you understood the purpose of brembos then you would realize it's not about stopping to a complete stop. they resist fad for racing applications and provide constant brake pressure under high stress situations.

plz show me where the lsj stops better as well, as far as I've seen and looked up the lnf stops on average 4-6ft shorter. plus, you can't really compare a test from 5 years ago to ones now, many many different variables!
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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if you understood the purpose of brembos then you would realize it's not about stopping to a complete stop. they resist fad for racing applications and provide constant brake pressure under high stress situations.

plz show me where the lsj stops better as well, as far as I've seen and looked up the lnf stops on average 4-6ft shorter. plus, you can't really compare a test from 5 years ago to ones now, many many different variables!
And for drag racing, fade is not an issue. Thanks for proving our point for us. Goodbye.

And what variables are different from 5 years ago to now? Does acid rain make the cars stop shorter now than 5 years ago?
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mron0903
if you understood the purpose of brembos then you would realize it's not about stopping to a complete stop. they resist fad for racing applications and provide constant brake pressure under high stress situations.

plz show me where the lsj stops better as well, as far as I've seen and looked up the lnf stops on average 4-6ft shorter. plus, you can't really compare a test from 5 years ago to ones now, many many different variables!
Go home.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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damn, good **** dude! i can see why you wanted to sell your 17" slicks.. i am getting 24.5" slicks too (MT) and a set of 15"s. ordering them next friday. i cant wait til drag racing season starts up! grinding the lsj calipers werent that bad right?

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He's trying to run 11's, do you think he doesn't realize the potential for breaking parts is high? Why do people insist on hating so hard on this site

GL Cmiller! Id like to see more LNF's in the 11's this season
what about an LSJ? haha.. thats my goal this year.

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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damn, good **** dude! i can see why you wanted to sell your 17" slicks.. i am getting 24.5" slicks too (MT) and a set of 15"s. ordering them next friday. i cant wait til drag racing season starts up! grinding the lsj calipers werent that bad right?



what about an LSJ? haha.. thats my goal this year.
No it wasn't bad. I actually went a little to far so we will see how that goes.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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And for drag racing, fade is not an issue. Thanks for proving our point for us. Goodbye.

And what variables are different from 5 years ago to now? Does acid rain make the cars stop shorter now than 5 years ago?
really? you can't think of one thing that would change over the course of 5 years? well for one, the weather. can't really miss that.


I'm surprised to see so many idiots on this forum (not directed to the OP) and the lack of common sense. I've visited alot of forums and this by far is the worse.

plus I wasn't trying to disprove anyone. just stating facts. goodbye gentlemen
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really? you can't think of one thing that would change over the course of 5 years? well for one, the weather. can't really miss that.


I'm surprised to see so many idiots on this forum (not directed to the OP) and the lack of common sense. I've visited alot of forums and this by far is the worse.

plus I wasn't trying to disprove anyone. just stating facts. goodbye gentlemen
Well, first off buddy, if you insist on calling me an idiot, we can go round and round. I know that my knowledge far surpasses yours.

I can think of things that change over the course of 5 years, I've grown a few inches, lost some weight, graduated college... but I am not sure how that has an effect on stopping distance... so that must not be a valid point. Now, you bring up the weather. How has the weather changed in the last 5 years? Is there any way that you can certainly prove that the LSJ was tested on a better day than the LNF was? No. Absolutely not. Thus, we cannot either, so we assume that the cars were tested on similar days. Of course the magazines, in an effort to maintain the most accurate test wouldn't test in the rain, or snow, or ice. So, there goes that argument for you. Anything else?

Also, I am surprised to see so many haters here. For a site that covers so many different styles of one certain car, no one can accept anything different. And, you are one of those people. You are going to hate on the people that are moving forward in the development of this car. Sure, drag racing might not be your thing. And you claim the car was made for Auto-X... Did the engineer of this car tell you himself? To make that claim is very naive of someone.

Look at it this way. People drag race Hondas, SRT-4's, Evos, Cavaliers, DSM's, and a whole bunch of other cars. Why not a Cobalt? When you can give me a reason that will encompass all factors of this car, I will respect your opinion. Until then, you got nothing on me son.

To be competitive in Auto-X, you put new brake fluid in your car, right? You prolly put better performing pads in your calipers too, and might upgrade to a slotted rotor, to meet your needs and goals. We change out the calipers, rotors, and pads as well to meet our goals, albeit very different goals than you.

All in all, we are going for different goals. Hating on what someone is doing to get to their OWN PERSONAL goal is ridiculous, and immature. Guess what, us drag racers are where you get your power from. If it wasn't for drag racing, there wouldn't be big turbo Cobalts, or very, VERY few of them, and the kits that would exist would likely be custom kits that you wouldn't be able to afford. You wouldn't have the excitement of feeling the power.

So, how about you just shut the hell up, and go cower in your closet. Obviously you know very little about cars, I would be surprised if you know where the oil filter is on this car, much less how to tune a car. And, if thats still not enough for you, I will run you all day, any day, any track you choose.
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