Originally Posted by mkriebs

Well, first off buddy, if you insist on calling me an idiot, we can go round and round. I know that my knowledge far surpasses yours.

I can think of things that change over the course of 5 years, I've grown a few inches, lost some weight, graduated college... but I am not sure how that has an effect on stopping distance... so that must not be a valid point. Now, you bring up the weather. How has the weather changed in the last 5 years? Is there any way that you can certainly prove that the LSJ was tested on a better day than the LNF was? No. Absolutely not. Thus, we cannot either, so we assume that the cars were tested on similar days. Of course the magazines, in an effort to maintain the most accurate test wouldn't test in the rain, or snow, or ice. So, there goes that argument for you. Anything else?

Also, I am surprised to see so many haters here. For a site that covers so many different styles of one certain car, no one can accept anything different. And, you are one of those people. You are going to hate on the people that are moving forward in the development of this car. Sure, drag racing might not be your thing. And you claim the car was made for Auto-X... Did the engineer of this car tell you himself? To make that claim is very naive of someone.

Look at it this way. People drag race Hondas, SRT-4's, Evos, Cavaliers, DSM's, and a whole bunch of other cars. Why not a Cobalt? When you can give me a reason that will encompass all factors of this car, I will respect your opinion. Until then, you got nothing on me son.

To be competitive in Auto-X, you put new brake fluid in your car, right? You prolly put better performing pads in your calipers too, and might upgrade to a slotted rotor, to meet your needs and goals. We change out the calipers, rotors, and pads as well to meet our goals, albeit very different goals than you.

All in all, we are going for different goals. Hating on what someone is doing to get to their OWN PERSONAL goal is ridiculous, and immature. Guess what, us drag racers are where you get your power from. If it wasn't for drag racing, there wouldn't be big turbo Cobalts, or very, VERY few of them, and the kits that would exist would likely be custom kits that you wouldn't be able to afford. You wouldn't have the excitement of feeling the power.

So, how about you just shut the hell up, and go cower in your closet. Obviously you know very little about cars, I would be surprised if you know where the oil filter is on this car, much less how to tune a car. And, if thats still not enough for you, I will run you all day, any day, any track you choose.

Originally Posted by tomj77

I applaud you sir. U tell em, and everyone else who thinks they know everything about cars because they read all the info and cause they know where the dipstick is. I dub ur reply the best verbal punch in the face of the year.

Originally Posted by mkriebs

T we would all have 500hp Cobalts, with 19's, banging sound systems, and coilovers and sway bars.

Originally Posted by mron0903

if you understood the purpose of brembos then you would realize it's not about stopping to a complete stop. they resist fad for racing applications and provide constant brake pressure under high stress situations.

plz show me where the lsj stops better as well, as far as I've seen and looked up the lnf stops on average 4-6ft shorter. plus, you can't really compare a test from 5 years ago to ones now, many many different variables!

Originally Posted by cmiller8006

What's this Powell raceshop in everyones sig?

Originally Posted by mron0903

first off, I was not flaming on the op. I even apologized for coming off as a dick.

the only reason I posted again is because alot of you were saying the lsj brakes are better than the brembos. which they are not. plus, John hiercy (however you spell it) help redesign the new SS. what does that tell you about what the car was designed for? and it's nurburgring tuned suspension...

I already said in earlier posts that ppl can do what they will with their cars. it's to each his own..

I would love for you to come track with me. I would be very very surprised if you can even keep up with me. there is no point in going back and forth saying who's the better driver cause honestly I highly doubt you've even done as many events as I have, autox or track. and if you want to, compete in NASA TimeTrials, I'll be there.

as said before, to each their own.

Originally Posted by mron0903

first off, I was not flaming on the op. I even apologized for coming off as a dick.

the only reason I posted again is because alot of you were saying the lsj brakes are better than the brembos. which they are not. plus, John hiercy (however you spell it) help redesign the new SS. what does that tell you about what the car was designed for? and it's nurburgring tuned suspension...

I already said in earlier posts that ppl can do what they will with their cars. it's to each his own..

I would love for you to come track with me. I would be very very surprised if you can even keep up with me. there is no point in going back and forth saying who's the better driver cause honestly I highly doubt you've even done as many events as I have, autox or track. and if you want to, compete in NASA TimeTrials, I'll be there.

as said before, to each their own.

Originally Posted by steddy2112

Try clicking it and finding out

Originally Posted by rukkee

I never said one time or even hinted that the LSJ brakes are better than the BRembo's WHere did you get that from . I'm just showing the people who were bashing him about what he is doing ..... that the LSJ brakes arent bad . Will they lap with the larger brembo's lap after lap ..... no way . But for everday driving and 1/4 mile passes....they are more than enough . The only thing I said about autoX is.... thats where you would see the brembo's shine . You must have voices in your head . Or looking for a reason to argue .

I've got 5-600 1/4 mile passes under my belt and have never autox'ed or been on a road course . There isn't one around .

You brought up driving skill and your ego why exactly??? Cause you were wrong about some stopping distances?

Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC

Well where do you think all those OTTP mounts, and sway bars come from......

Oh, yeah the guy that TTR says is a liar yeah that him.... John Powell the owner of PRS, and the builder and designer of the Trans Am and Time Attack cars!

Originally Posted by mron0903

I wasn't replying to your comments, I honestly don't even know what you said. I was talking to mkribbes or whatever his name his.. I'd look it up but I'm on my phone.

Originally Posted by cmiller8006

I don't really follow. Maybe something I didn't see. But this is the shop that does the time attack cars?

Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC

The LSJ brakes are fantastic... why is this even an issue. He did it for a drag application not an auto x application where the better fade, and increased grip and size will be used.

I'm not for all out drag racing, I want a well rounded car... high hp, good at the strip and the twisties.

Good luck to you both, but you have a street car on your heels!



yeah, John Powell AKA: quikredline on these forums. Yes is the owner of the shop that builds those cars, plus is the one who makes the OTTP rotated mounts and rear sway bars for OTTP!

Originally Posted by damien

All this bs talk..

What'd you do with the brembo brake set?