Bullshit...complete bullshit.

If this was the case do you really think the OEMs would be wasting money incorporating catalytic converters and meeting government mandated emissions standards...holy christ...

As for the modifying comment from the intellectual mind of Steddy...I have no problem with an individual modifying their car. I do have a problem when they remove emissions equipment or try to have warranty work for something they broke...

 

I'd have to agree on using a cat. There's no reason not to use a cat, it's not going to cost you power in the end and it'll make passing emissions a hell of a lot easier. Just throw a Random Tech 3" spun cat (100 cell count) on and two 3" resonators and be done w/ it. Best exhaust for a turbo in my eyes...

 

wowow lets get this strat

for emissions of course a cat is better...for sound quality, its not needed is what i was saying...


**** emissions in my opinion, cars give off such little emissions as is, even if everyone didnt have a cat, a volcano equpting would cause more emissions then all the cars in the world combined times 10

 

While I am not entirely convinced on the Global Warming issue, I have no issue with making new cars cleaner.

If you have no cats on your muscle car that you drive 3k miles a year, fine, but on your brand new car that you drive 15k miles a year...come on.

 

Because a Cat is a required piece of OEM equipment on a Gasoline powered car. And a Turbo isn't perfectly like a cat, but they do work pretty well like one once heated up. That is part of what makes Turbos as efficient as they are, because heat helps them to spool.

If you look at Turbo 2-Steps and Turbo Launch Controls, they work by shooting excess amounts of fuel into the hotside of the turbo... the turbo IGNITES this fuel which helps to spool the turbo on the line.

With a turbo car, a cat will make spooling take longer and you will lose top end power. Now, with the SS/TC... that's not a problem since the turbo is smaller than the average human *******.

 

i got no cat in mine, i really dont see the big issue....i guess im like the crowd tho, if i know there are people out there doing worse then me...why the **** would i change?

 

If an RT 3" spun cat hurts spooling time more than 100-200 RPM, I would be amazed. There is no reason to not use a cat anymore, especially w/ these guys using turbos smaller than human ********...

 

my friend has the ss/tc and has a 3 inch downpipe and 3 inch exhaust into a universal megan racing muffler and it sounds bad ass!

 

Right.

But you take 100rpm from having a cat, and then add another 300 or 400 rpm from hardpipes and a big Front Mount and you are looking at a small turbo that lags bad.

Trust me, I've seen it first hand on an STi.

Either way you look at it... on a stock turbo SS/TC... either way you go with the cat situation will be fine. I'm not saying he needs one or doesn't need one. I'm just saying it'll only help.

 

I understand what you're saying. I'm just trying to help these guys understand that w/ the proper selection of exhaust and intake components, they can keep the lag minimal and still make good power while keeping the car emissions legal. W/ these smaller turbo's you don't need to put a killer-huge FMIC on the car. A bar-and-plate design w/ the appropriate thickness and length can be chosen to get the best efficiency vs. power scenario...

 

That is an absolutely brilliant way to look at the world around you.

There are other people out there more obese than me so why should I change?

There are plenty of people that do nothing with their lives, at least I work at McDonalds, why should I change?

 

quick question, are u planning to tune the car after you do this exhaust?? while your getting your exhaust done why not get custom charge piping too?? I think overall, if your looking for better sound from your ss/tc, get a different muffler for now and wait for the GMPP exhaust to come which is likely to come with a tune as well. I'm betting stage 1 will be intake/exhaust/tune and it'll be pretty baddass.

 

Every thread you post in you are all worried about me getting my **** warrantied for free.


Why the **** do you care?

I know I gotta pay to play and make more than enough money to play.

So do us ALL a ******* favor.

Shut up, and unless you have something to add to the thread...other than worrying about what SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING...don't post.

So go get all bent out of shape over the polar bears in someone else thread you ******* tool.

My tune>GMPP tune.

Eh I don't think the guy I go to will be all about doing charge piping.

I am mainly looking for some ideas, I will probably put the 3" catless in first.

Don't hate on our small turbos now

Mainly wanna get a catless because I know it will be quiet still with it catless, help spool time, AND be cheaper.

 

Even if you don't put a cat on, I would still recommend taking a look at those 3" resonators I linked to a few posts back. They're nice and cheap for T304SS and work like a charm...

 

Oh the price is ******* RIGHT that is for sure.


You say two of them?

 

That price is for two of them, so I put one in the tunnel and one out back where the stock muffler was. Just make sure your exhaust dude puts them in correctly...



https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/edubs-exhaust-finished-79616/

Here are pics when I first got the exhaust setup...

 

I will listen to it when I get home

 

Remember, w/ a turbo on there you'll have even less rasp and a lower tone...

 

I will find out

I just bit the bullet.

 

2 Resonators - No Muffler FTMFW!

 

They are like two little mufflers.

 

So your doing your own custom tuning for it? Be careful of that, u probably already know, the ss/tc keeps track of each time to re-tune the car........and if your service manager changes and the new one isn't mod friendly and something happens........nobody wants to see an ss/tc broke down and then not get warrenty GL with your tune/exhaust tho, i can only imagine how much fun that's gunna be

 

I think he just got owned. I am at a exhaust shop right now ill ask the guy for your situation

 

I understand this and understand that I am fully liable.

If one more person tells me this I will kill 9 babies

I have a really cool dealer.

 

I'd put the resonators back to back as soon as the piping comes off the downpipe... that way the exhaust has some room to tumble.

[Don't take that as advise... I just made it up. It sounds good though.]