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Old 07-29-2012, 02:55 PM
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so what does everyone think the price of the zzp zfr turbo will be?
im thinking 2500...lol
Not that much.... I'll tell you that.
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Whats the word on the Werks WR-2 Bolt On Turbo?

There was a post on here but it was shown as being moved...not sure why????

Just curious if anyone has run this turbo or what everyone's thoughts are.
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thats the turbo i am gonna run...straight bolt-on, and 450whp fully bolted, 93 gas and an aggressive tune...less than $2000 after core
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkSS
Whats the word on the Werks WR-2 Bolt On Turbo?

There was a post on here but it was shown as being moved...not sure why????

Just curious if anyone has run this turbo or what everyone's thoughts are.
I'll let you know soon, my core should be at pwerks tomorrow afternoon....
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i personally like the ZFR, i think (depending on the price) ill more than likely be going with that one, i really like treadstone's price, but i dont feel like adding a downpipe and a new manifold.. i love the thought of direct bolt on!
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dont get me wrong the zfr will be a great option... just every one and their brother will have it.
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dont get me wrong the zfr will be a great option... just every one and their brother will have it.
Well, custom setups mean custom problems too, just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by N_Lowe
i personally like the ZFR, i think (depending on the price) ill more than likely be going with that one, i really like treadstone's price, but i dont feel like adding a downpipe and a new manifold.. i love the thought of direct bolt on!
Just talked with Shane from ZZP and he told me that the ZFR should be coming out by next month(fingers crossed) and that it will be UNDER $2,000. I am aware that just about everyone will have this Turbo as a stock Turbo upgrade, However this Turbo has the BEST of everything! Stock Spool with 400+ WHP....Where do I sign, lol
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Originally Posted by Sully20
Just talked with Shane from ZZP and he told me that the ZFR should be coming out by next month(fingers crossed) and that it will be UNDER $2,000. I am aware that just about everyone will have this Turbo as a stock Turbo upgrade, However this Turbo has the BEST of everything! Stock Spool with 400+ WHP....Where do I sign, lol
You'll sign right where it says, "Broken Tranny".

I can't imagine stock spool with an extra 150 lb/ft of torque.
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what is traction? bumper stickers should be given with it
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I'd ramp in the Boost nice and slow with the stock tranny, no need to go over 350 ft/lb if the ZFR flows well enough up top.... Granted new valve springs would be necessary.

I would love a flat torque curve with a nice boost ramp keeping the torque around 320 to a 7500 redline.
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Originally Posted by Stamina
Well, custom setups mean custom problems too, just sayin'.
This is true, but technically the zfr is "custom" as well, all be it's the exhaust housing. I'll still have a spare turbo if anything were to happen.
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
You'll sign right where it says, "Broken Tranny".

I can't imagine stock spool with an extra 150 lb/ft of torque.
Well we have a thread about a built shepard trans we need 4 other people to go in on it to get it done
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wow, the zfr will be under $2k..now thats tempting, but the pwerks still seems good too...we will see...
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkSS
I'd ramp in the Boost nice and slow with the stock tranny, no need to go over 350 ft/lb if the ZFR flows well enough up top.... Granted new valve springs would be necessary.

I would love a flat torque curve with a nice boost ramp keeping the torque around 320 to a 7500 redline.
this is what i've been saying!
that what the boost control tables are for.
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
You'll sign right where it says, "Broken Tranny".

I can't imagine stock spool with an extra 150 lb/ft of torque.
You thinking its going to be mandatory to go upgraded clutch/tranny setup
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ZFR should be coming out by next month(fingers crossed) and that it will be UNDER $2,000

The zfr should be around 2,000 that is what we are original goal was for the cost. However the cost has not yet been officially determined so it could change dont get mad if its higher than what i said. As far as the date all i can say is when they get here they get here lol.
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkSS
I'd ramp in the Boost nice and slow with the stock tranny, no need to go over 350 ft/lb if the ZFR flows well enough up top.... Granted new valve springs would be necessary.

I would love a flat torque curve with a nice boost ramp keeping the torque around 320 to a 7500 redline.
yey lets make are big turbo act like a procharger HUZZAH
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Originally Posted by BlackhawkSS
I'd ramp in the Boost nice and slow with the stock tranny, no need to go over 350 ft/lb if the ZFR flows well enough up top.... Granted new valve springs would be necessary.

I would love a flat torque curve with a nice boost ramp keeping the torque around 320 to a 7500 redline.
I actually just tuned what is basically a zfr (efr 6758 with a zfr exhaust housing) this past weekend and it's definitely a really solid feeling turbo. I love the fact that we have full electronic wastegate control (if desired) like the k04 and she DEFIITELY pulls very nice and holds a very flat power curve straight across the power band, but at the same time the boost curve is actually very easy to control down low.... as long as you aren't a fool.. lol.. Everyone makes this thing out like it boosts INSTANTLY and is just like the k04 as far as spool time, but in reality it really doesn't nor should you want it to be really.

Granted you can crank the snot out of the settings in the tune to make an ungodly boost spike by 2500-2800rpms if you really wanted, but who in their right mind would actually want that (I'm not pointing that at you btw Blackhawk)? Surely if you plan on keeping your engine, valvetrain, and drivetrain in tact you will opt to NOT take advantage of the super quick spool time and ramp things in smoothly.... just my 2cents
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Originally Posted by N_Lowe
You thinking its going to be mandatory to go upgraded clutch/tranny setup
definitely a yes to the clutch.... tranny should be fine depending on how aggressive the tune is.
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i'll keep my aggressive settings and slap this turbo on and see if i can go boom....lol
i'm sure the pwerks wr-2 will be the same way except the top end power will not be as much...
which ever one is cheaper is the one i am buying...lol
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To upgrade a turbo and then turn it down so you can stay " safe" seems asinine. WTF are you buying it for in the first place?
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Keep blowing transmissions if you want full boost out of a 6758 by 2800-3k then my friend..

I also never said anything about "turning it down", but there sure is a level to where is certainly does become "asinine" if you don't control the power correctly.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Keep blowing transmissions if you want full boost out of a 6758 by 2800-3k then my friend..

I also never said anything about "turning it down", but there sure is a level to where is certainly does become "asinine" if you don't control the power correctly.
Mind highlighting in my response where I mentioned your screen name or anything like that? Feeling a little self conscious are we?

I was making a general comment. It seems retarded to spend money on an upgrade just to keep it at barely faster than the stock one is. Blown trannies is part of it. Don't upgrade if you're scared. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by Frogstofall
Mind highlighting in my response where I mentioned your screen name or anything like that? Feeling a little self conscious are we?

I was making a general comment. It seems retarded to spend money on an upgrade just to keep it at barely faster than the stock one is. Blown trannies is part of it. Don't upgrade if you're scared. Plain and simple.
Self conscious? lol

You made a very broad statement in which I seemed to fall into very easily considering my previous comment about the turbo, so yes I was going to speak up. If it wasn't directed anywhere near me then no harm no foul, but it sure seemed that way..

Anyways, it's a fun turbo.... do it!


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