GMS2 Coming Out Soon!
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GMS2 Coming Out Soon!
So I just read on GMTunerSource that the boys at GM are in the middle of coming out with the Stage 2 Kit for the SS/TC. They said it'll be out in about three months but what I don't understand is they're saying it'll bring the power up to 290hp from the Stage 1's 275 hp. Wasn't Stage 1 supposed to be like 280-90hp and 320 tq? Anyway, Stage 2 will be everything included in the Stage 1 kit plus a new air inlet duct from GM, which is just a fancy way of saying an intake lol, which some on here have been saying for some time now. All we have to do is just wait. Can't wait to be able to really hear that turbo spool lol. What do you guys think?
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ya they said this a long time ago, nothing's gonna happen. The GSM1 kit is a already 290hp for everything but the balt. The balt is 280hp. Gmtunersource is a waste of a website, they never have anything on it.
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Just make your own Stage 2 kit, if it's just an intake, buy one and tune it (I hear K&N is good with GMS1) Thats what I do, even though I don't have a stage one kit, Im tuned and I just tell people I have a stage one. My car from what I understand is as fast as a GMS1 with intake, cp and downpipe and I just have a tune.
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If your lookin for power do the mods ourself & get it tuned, you get way more bang for your buck. If you plan on it bein just a DD & you want no worries w/warranty then go w/gm's upgrades. IMO gm's upgrades are weak, only thing I would want out of it is the sensors & install then myself.
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Yeah I remember talking to you on here when I first got my TC you said you live close by. We'll have to meet up once spring rolls around. I'll have my car back out by then.
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Sounds good. My car is also parked away for the winter. Send me a PM sometime in the spring, and we can meet up.
I don't think you know how (albeit momentarily) excited I got to read this threads' title...
I have all but given up on any further upgrades from GM for the SS/TC's...
all of the LNF powered cars that had enthusiasts excited are now discontinued;
Now the clowns at GM think that they're going to get enthusiasts to buy a bigger/heavier Buick, or a pos compact with a paltry 140hp (that's less hp than the last couple years of J-bodies)... yeah right.
For the record, the only way I could see myself at this time buying an intake is if it was a GM part.
FYI: Before I bought my car I was following all the Cobalt SS/TC Stage kit discussion/development postings...
There has been no official talk of the Stage2 since the last posting on GMTS.
I have all but given up on any further upgrades from GM for the SS/TC's...
all of the LNF powered cars that had enthusiasts excited are now discontinued;
- 2007-2010 Pontiac Solstice GXP
- 2008-2009 Saturn Sky Redline
- 2008-2009 Opel GT
- 2008-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt SS
- 2008-2010 Chevrolet HHRSS
Now the clowns at GM think that they're going to get enthusiasts to buy a bigger/heavier Buick, or a pos compact with a paltry 140hp (that's less hp than the last couple years of J-bodies)... yeah right.
For the record, the only way I could see myself at this time buying an intake is if it was a GM part.
FYI: Before I bought my car I was following all the Cobalt SS/TC Stage kit discussion/development postings...
There has been no official talk of the Stage2 since the last posting on GMTS.
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They need to get the GMS1 working correctly before they move onto a GMS2!! I have reoccurring problems of CELs, bucking and erratic boost with my TC on GMS1 and otherwise stock. The dealer already replaced the lower (cold CP) MAP sensor once, it was fixed for a few months, but now the problems back!
From what I've understood, Stage kits, just like any other official part, go through durability testing before released.
I hate to say it, but odds are there was something not done 100% on the install;
I have read of a number of other people here who cite similar problems, but I also seem to recall regularly of the culprit being found...
this is one of those times where you might have to put the car on axle stands, and pour over it to make sure everything has been adequately installed.
What's the service code that's coming up?
(hopefully I'm not mistaken by seeing your sig picture, and drawing a line to assuming that you can work on cars)
I hate to say it, but odds are there was something not done 100% on the install;
I have read of a number of other people here who cite similar problems, but I also seem to recall regularly of the culprit being found...
this is one of those times where you might have to put the car on axle stands, and pour over it to make sure everything has been adequately installed.
What's the service code that's coming up?
(hopefully I'm not mistaken by seeing your sig picture, and drawing a line to assuming that you can work on cars)
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Yes, like making sure the tech who installed the kit properly soldered and sealed all the electrical connections and didn't use crimp-on connectors which can degrade the electrical signal required for the critical sensor readings the computer needs. Also that the sensors are seated and sealed correctly and nothing else is wrong with the car.
While it is possible the engineer who did the actual calibration (a Bosch employee working under contract for GM if I recall correctly, so they should know their own Bosch engine management system pretty well) might not have been able to take into consideration all types of fuels used in all parts of the country, other environmental factors, etc., but I somewhat doubt that as there was a lot of testing done to meet emission requirements and there's also a large amount of owners in many different places using the exact calibration/tune with no issues.
While it is possible the engineer who did the actual calibration (a Bosch employee working under contract for GM if I recall correctly, so they should know their own Bosch engine management system pretty well) might not have been able to take into consideration all types of fuels used in all parts of the country, other environmental factors, etc., but I somewhat doubt that as there was a lot of testing done to meet emission requirements and there's also a large amount of owners in many different places using the exact calibration/tune with no issues.
They need to get the GMS1 working correctly before they move onto a GMS2!! I have reoccurring problems of CELs, bucking and erratic boost with my TC on GMS1 and otherwise stock. The dealer already replaced the lower (cold CP) MAP sensor once, it was fixed for a few months, but now the problems back!
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I would have installed the sensors myself, but the dealer told me that if I did then the parts of the kit would NOT be covered under the warranty if a sensor happened to go bad.
When I initially had the problem I brought the car in for it to be addressed. I expressed my concern about the connectors and asked that they solder the wires. Instead they just said it was probably a bad sensor, and replaced it.... Now, a few months later, the problems back. Another bad sensor? Seems like a slim chance. This time Ill be insisting they solder the wires.
How do you not blame GM? If theyre going to design in sell something that is meant to be installed by their techs, they need to design it so it can be installed correctly. There is NO way there was any need for the kit to come with those stupid butt-style connectors, I dont care how reliable theyre supposed to be. Soldering and proper sealing is the only true way to ensure an adequate connection and protection from the environment.
I would have installed the sensors myself, but the dealer told me that if I did then the parts of the kit would NOT be covered under the warranty if a sensor happened to go bad.
When I initially had the problem I brought the car in for it to be addressed. I expressed my concern about the connectors and asked that they solder the wires. Instead they just said it was probably a bad sensor, and replaced it.... Now, a few months later, the problems back. Another bad sensor? Seems like a slim chance. This time Ill be insisting they solder the wires.
I would have installed the sensors myself, but the dealer told me that if I did then the parts of the kit would NOT be covered under the warranty if a sensor happened to go bad.
When I initially had the problem I brought the car in for it to be addressed. I expressed my concern about the connectors and asked that they solder the wires. Instead they just said it was probably a bad sensor, and replaced it.... Now, a few months later, the problems back. Another bad sensor? Seems like a slim chance. This time Ill be insisting they solder the wires.