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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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X2 And you really don't hear the BOV unless your into boost, and not NLSing. It doesn't blow off when you NLS so when your racing they don't hear it until you get off the gas.

And if you drive it like grandma, then it won't be much different than having an intake on there...
You have made a classical mistake here, your theorizing prior to having the facts... Most tunes done with HPT, you even think of NLS'ing your going to make your gears smooth as a baby's ass. So unless his tune is not that aggressive he is using NLS. It ultimately up to him, but I don't see a need for it, get a SRI and get almost if not as loud of a sound.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Get the BOV and be a baller. Nice lookin Charge pipe. dont need to block off BPV but its a good option if you want full ricer potential
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
You have made a classical mistake here, your theorizing prior to having the facts... Most tunes done with HPT, you even think of NLS'ing your going to make your gears smooth as a baby's ass. So unless his tune is not that aggressive he is using NLS. It ultimately up to him, but I don't see a need for it, get a SRI and get almost if not as loud of a sound.
I don't believe in NLS...at least not at the level of power I'm at. The last thing I need is to shatter a gear or something...ask Maven about that
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
Wow so you follow the "oh, band - aid it and hope it works method".

Re compensating for this in the ECM is going to cause what issues else where?

Where's BYT... he did a thread on the BOV.
No, I follow the "I've been tuning LNF's for years and haven't had a single problem arise when whoever I was tuning came to me with a BOV on their car". Well, barring one HHR, but that kid was a toolshed.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Get the BOV and be a baller. Nice lookin Charge pipe. dont need to block off BPV but its a good option if you want full ricer potential
I'm genuinely considering it...God I feel so gay even saying that...but nobody has answered this question yet vvvvv

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I'm going to assume this: https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...1164&catid=186
has the same flange (V-Band) as a Tial BOV?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
You have made a classical mistake here, your theorizing prior to having the facts... Most tunes done with HPT, you even think of NLS'ing your going to make your gears smooth as a baby's ass. So unless his tune is not that aggressive he is using NLS. It ultimately up to him, but I don't see a need for it, get a SRI and get almost if not as loud of a sound.
It appears that you're the one making mistakes. NLS'ing for 3+ years on an LNF&HPTuned @6800. Not a SINGLE issue yet.

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I'm genuinely considering it...God I feel so gay even saying that...but nobody has answered this question yet vvvvv
The answer is yes.

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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pantherqs
It appears that you're the one making mistakes. NLS'ing for 3+ years on an LNF&HPTuned @6800. Not a SINGLE issue yet.



The answer is yes.
Very true. My boy NLS's his on the Trifecta tune all the time. But he just likes to break shift linkages.... Hahaha.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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No, I follow the "I've been tuning LNF's for years and haven't had a single problem arise when whoever I was tuning came to me with a BOV on their car". Well, barring one HHR, but that kid was a toolshed.
OK, so your not tuning that aggressive. Then NLS is still in play. But for those that it isn't, that reasoning doesn't work.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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this is what an HKS flange looks like

Tial Flange


more Tial

OP definitly a Tial

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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Yea. I didn't think it was the HKS because that's what I have. But it sure looks like a Tial from the pics that Gestapo posted. Good job man!
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JPizzle
Very true. My boy NLS's his on the Trifecta tune all the time. But he just likes to break shift linkages.... Hahaha.
Alright...you BOV homos have convinced me...and after having looked up some vids of tial BOVs..they're not that loud and I think I can live with it...sonofabitch I feel gay. JPizzle can you PM me with some specific install details please?

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OK, so your not tuning that aggressive. Then NLS is still in play. But for those that it isn't, that reasoning doesn't work.
My tuning is pretty damn aggressive..not sure what his tune is though. Like I said...I WILL NOT NLS at the power I'm at. That is transmission suicide...ehh..errr...homicide...
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
Alright...you BOV homos have convinced me...and after having looked up some vids of tial BOVs..they're not that loud and I think I can live with it...sonofabitch I feel gay.



My tuning is pretty damn aggressive..not sure what his tune is though. Like I said...I WILL NOT NLS at the power I'm at. That is transmission suicide...ehh..errr...homicide...
Welcome to the club.
Haha. Yea if I was pushing a lot of power I would think twice about NLS's, but since I'm not.. I don't care.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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It appears that you're the one making mistakes. NLS'ing for 3+ years on an LNF&HPTuned @6800. Not a SINGLE issue yet.
Not at all, that speaks nothing of what your tune looks like. Just your red line. Mines @ 7100, but that isn't what makes a tune aggressive. You can calm down. If you were offended by the band-aid comment, my apologies. As Sandman has stated, in an aggressive tune, NLs isn't worth it.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
OK, so your not tuning that aggressive. Then NLS is still in play. But for those that it isn't, that reasoning doesn't work.
I'd say 6800 is pretty aggressive on stock springs/retainers. That coupled with 19+ degrees of timing, meth, and .92 lambda. Especially since I log 7k's between shifts.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pantherqs
I'd say 6800 is pretty aggressive on stock springs/retainers. Especially since I log 7k's between shifts.
Still that's your redline, what does your timing look like and your boost is engaged when? Those factors play just of much as a part of how aggressive the tune is.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
Still that's your redline, what does your timing look like and your boost is engaged when? Those factors play just of much as a part of how aggressive the tune is.
I run about 16-17 degrees up top depending on the gas...I think it's at 17 right now if I'm not mistaken.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
I run about 16-17 degrees up top depending on the gas...I think it's at 17 right now if I'm not mistaken.
Ess nice!!!!!!
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by crypticscifer
Still that's your redline, what does your timing look like and your boost is engaged when? Those factors play just of much as a part of how aggressive the tune is.
Re-read my post, edited it as you were posting. 19 degrees+ up top, .92 lambda on meth, [soon-to-be]maxed dal's on top of the gms1 tune/sensors.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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Actually, that is weird. I thought it might be the CP from their turbo kit but looking at the kit the BOV is on the exhaust mani not on the CP...???

Prototype? lol
you mean waste gate?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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Re-read my post, edited it as you were posting. 19 degrees+ up top, .92 lambda on meth, [soon-to-be]maxed dal's on top of the gms1 tune/sensors.
Holy Santa Clause **** .92 lambda?!?!?! Did you leave your cat protection on or did you null that?? That is insane either way...little too scary for my blood...Meth FTMFW!!!! Bet that thing pulls like a sonofabitch! I'm running .88 right now but was thinking of upping it to .89...do a few logs and see if everything is in check.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pantherqs
Re-read my post, edited it as you were posting. 19 degrees+ up top, .92 lambda on meth, [soon-to-be]maxed dal's on top of the gms1 tune/sensors.
How are you NOT ripping your tranny apart?? With NLS???
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Originally Posted by 09turbo
you mean waste gate?
Yeah that was corrected a few posts down fom the original post
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Old May 4, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetsandman
Holy Santa Clause **** .92 lambda?!?!?! Did you leave your cat protection on or did you null that?? That is insane either way...little too scary for my blood...Meth FTMFW!!!! Bet that thing pulls like a sonofabitch! I'm running .88 right now but was thinking of upping it to .89...do a few logs and see if everything is in check.
I'm catless, the table is 1'd out. I'm running pure meth, no water. With my nozzle and psi I'm logging a hair under .86. In my experience, LNF's like .88 the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHfTXFikIyY
^-- NLSing, no trans issues ever.
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Holy Santa Clause **** .92 lambda?!?!?! Did you leave your cat protection on or did you null that?? That is insane either way...little too scary for my blood...Meth FTMFW!!!! Bet that thing pulls like a sonofabitch! I'm running .88 right now but was thinking of upping it to .89...do a few logs and see if everything is in check.
Santa Claus doesn't poop....
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Old May 4, 2010 | 04:07 PM
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I'm catless, the table is 1'd out. I'm running pure meth, no water. With my nozzle and psi I'm logging a hair under .86. In my experience, LNF's like .88 the best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHfTXFikIyY
^-- NLSing, no trans issues ever.
Yeah but that meth must make things fun as nuts!!

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Santa Claus doesn't poop....
You need to buy this book:
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