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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Oh yeah I was gonna tighten the bolts too oh well
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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j/k! j/k!

I messed up your car once already and that was not fun. lol
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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Lol no you diiidn't.
You might like the way it sounds with catless DP and muffler deleted stock catback. I have heard mine without the muffler with the catless DP and it was too raspy IMHO It sounded like a tractor. I had no resonator though so I dunno.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Oooh yeah thaaaaaaat time lol. It's all good now though!

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You might like the way it sounds with catless DP and muffler deleted stock catback. I have heard mine without the muffler with the catless DP and it was too raspy IMHO It sounded like a tractor. I had no resonator though so I dunno.
Well it's gonna be put on today so we'll see how it sounds lol.

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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rissa
Oooh yeah thaaaaaaat time lol. It's all good now though!



Well it's gonna be put on today so we'll see how it sounds lol.
It is gonna be a lot louder without those two huge cats on there. It is gonna smell a lot too.

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Their exhaust is more than Hahn's and is smaller.

I wouldn't buy it if someone gave me the money to.
I thought it was a 3" system just like mine or Hahn's. I got the newer much improved version of madrel exhasut systems exhaust. Mine fit great and it cost $200 less than Hahn's and it is 304 stainless not 409 high carbon steel wanna be stainless.

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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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I never really notice anyone else's car smelling though.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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I never really notice anyone else's car smelling though.
Catless smells especially on cold start up.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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a tweak to the cold start lambda can be made to fix it, however a slight idle speed upage has a "less smell" effect as your pulse speeds increase thus they disapate over a larger area.

but honestly, thats the last thing to worry about. cat-less and a side exit on a friends car with no such gas smell on CS. on throttle its got a bit of a smell but it should, and its not bad. the leaner AFR also helps.

any who, a catless dp on your exhasut will sound pretty good in my eyes. I'm a fan of hearing the turbine chop and the extra pressure differential will allow for more torque to be made. more power as well.

if you had real gas in CA it would be even better :P
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
a tweak to the cold start lambda can be made to fix it, however a slight idle speed upage has a "less smell" effect as your pulse speeds increase thus they disapate over a larger area.

but honestly, thats the last thing to worry about. cat-less and a side exit on a friends car with no such gas smell on CS. on throttle its got a bit of a smell but it should, and its not bad. the leaner AFR also helps.

any who, a catless dp on your exhasut will sound pretty good in my eyes. I'm a fan of hearing the turbine chop and the extra pressure differential will allow for more torque to be made. more power as well.

if you had real gas in CA it would be even better :P
HP Tuners does not have a cold start lambda table. I wish it did as well as cat heating ignition timing tables and fueling strategy tables. Car runs like crap on -16* of timing. My idle is at 900 rpms was 820 stock. Injector constantly pulse 1.1 mS or so through all 4 strokes and commanded timing is -16 to -18* commanded lambda is 1.10.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
HP Tuners does not have a cold start lambda table. I wish it did as well as cat heating ignition timing tables and fueling strategy tables. Car runs like crap on -16* of timing. My idle is at 900 rpms up from 820 stock.
i never said HPT

but thats besides the point.

a well composed idle table is worth a million bucks in the durability world. with the various internal engine issues that are inherent to the eco a few things are worth focusing on.

i idle the cars at 1200rev's until coolant temp has crossed the 110* threshold, its good for PCV action and cold start oil pressure. ramp into and out of this rpm point.

this along with zeroing out the cat heat tables and making the cold cam tables a bit more cyl pressure happy (not to much or she'll stumble on you) and you've got a car thats a bit more ideal IMO.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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S what should I do smarty panntsss?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rissa
S what should I do smarty panntsss?
PM me back :P

a catless dp on your exhasut will sound pretty good in my eyes. I'm a fan of hearing the turbine chop and the extra pressure differential will allow for more torque to be made. more power as well.

if you had real gas in CA it would be even better :P
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
i never said HPT

but thats besides the point.

a well composed idle table is worth a million bucks in the durability world. with the various internal engine issues that are inherent to the eco a few things are worth focusing on.

i idle the cars at 1200rev's until coolant temp has crossed the 110* threshold, its good for PCV action and cold start oil pressure. ramp into and out of this rpm point.

this along with zeroing out the cat heat tables and making the cold cam tables a bit more cyl pressure happy (not to much or she'll stumble on you) and you've got a car thats a bit more ideal IMO.
What else is there for this car? I have done that to the cat heating tables. It seems to make it run a little rough at idle. I wish I had enough control to get rid of the cold start compresor surge that that damn AEM intake causes. I have tried everthing I can with what I have avaliable to no avail.

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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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I diiiiiiid.
You could return my PM too. :P
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Done. :P
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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muffler delete + catless DP = GARBAGE!!

Trust me, I had it and I welded the muffler back on within 24 hours. Your car will sound like an extremely pissed off lawn mower and it's quite embarrassing.

Catless DP and muffler on is PERFECT!
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wantedSS/TC
muffler delete + catless DP = GARBAGE!!

Trust me, I had it and I welded the muffler back on within 24 hours. Your car will sound like an extremely pissed off lawn mower and it's quite embarrassing.

Catless DP and muffler on is PERFECT!
That is way I feel. I drove mine 15 miles to a muffler shop to have my new 3" CB welded at the muffler. It did not sound very good that way.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
What else is there for this car? I have done that to the cat heating tables. It seems to make it run a little rough at idle. I wish I had enough control to get rid of the cold start compresor surge that that damn AEM intake causes. I have tried everthing I can with what I have avaviable to no avail.
there's both cat heat cam tables and cold start. zero out the cat heat and move the cold tables more toward the warm (reference the warm as int/ext are in different planes of movement) the larger you make that move, in percent, the start up process becomes an equal percentage of warm start, however if the motor is truly cold both piston slap and blow-by increase the same amount untill warm.

it doesn't take much to get the car out of that egt happy, fuel crazy cal'd start up.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
there's both cat heat cam tables and cold start. zero out the cat heat and move the cold tables more toward the warm (reference the warm as int/ext are in different planes of movement) the larger you make that move, in percent, the start up process becomes an equal percentage of warm start, however if the motor is truly cold both piston slap and blow-by increase the same amount untill warm.

it doesn't take much to get the car out of that egt happy, fuel crazy cal'd start up.
I will try that thanks Bryan. I dunno about the piston slap though. I dont want any of that.
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