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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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IMO........Lest clean this place up

And let the Bashing begin!!!

I purchased a 2010 SS/TC in late December (one of the last on the east coast, as the dealer search told me and proud of her) and have found my self here alot. Do a Google search on just about nething related to a LNF, 2010 Cobalt SS, Cobalt performance, blah blah blah blah blah, etc. and what hits high is cobaltss.net.

Then go read the forum, 95% BS mixed in with 5% info. Whys everyone bashing here!?!? Or if your not bashing we're getting 1/2 a$$ info.

If you havn't already hit the back button on ur browser and are willing to here me out a sec.....

I have worked on alot of engines, rebuilt about a dozen now, worked on many more. I have a clue what i'm talking about but not claiming to be a LNF expert by no means. In fact the LNF is the most sophisticated system i have ever owned/worked on.

But this place is loaded, LOADED with IMO and not cold hard facts. Theres alot of you guys who r out there to make the most HP they can and say screw the factory warranty, and I commend you, hell if I had the $$ to do that sure as **** I would. But there seems to be alot of members out there who are in the same place i am and want to enjoy what R&T and many others consider the best bang for the buck FF car out there now (well was out there RIP Cobalt SS). It seems like every one is trying to push you to Trifecta, HPT, BYT, ZZP, etc. I'm sure you guys are good at what you do, like I said if could aford to say screw GM I would be on the phone with one of you tuning to the hilt. But were not all in that place, and i guess what i'm saying is can we just kinda BAND UP and take each others side for some hardcore real life info on a pretty sick litte diddy of a car! lmao

It seems like there is alot of knowledge here and the best thing we can do is help each other. I'm tired of searching something and having to read through 3 pages of bantering to get the simple 1 liner answer ur looking for. If you wanna argue thats what the wife is for, we're supposed to help each other! If its your opinion than start it out with IMO, if u have facts let it be known! HeII i almost **** my pants when i found out that my K&N was gunna blow my motor up......pages and pages later i find out, well my trims will be high. Little bit of difference!!

With all that said..... I have put on a K&N SRi, i'm in the process of teeing off my stock oil pressure switch to install a gauge, and i have the pope's blessing! AKA my dealer! Every (2 times) i have wanted to "mod" my car or alter it i have contacted my dealer, explained to the what i want to do, let them get back to me and they have been happy to oblige my request. Sometimes it helps to be honest, build a rapport with ur local dealer, they can only be ur friends in the end!!! Trying to fight with them off the bat is only gunna **** them off!

I"m sure i'll get bashed for my post but for you guys in my boat who read this.......I dunno i guess we have to read through the bs and decipher the facts, HOPE THERE RIGHT!!!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 12:49 AM
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I am not going to bash you as i spent months reading these forums, especially the sticky ones.(hint hint) and have learned a lot about my car and have modified it quite a bit from where it was in September.

After 5 months on this forum other than special builds on your car, just about everything you need to know has been posted and then some on your car. The rest is just having some fun IMHO.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 12:51 AM
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so... after I read thru your essay, I finally figured out that you want to cut the clutter on this site a lil bit right? Seems like it's been a lot of these today

but really.... all that could've been said in like... 5 sentences....... jus sayin
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 12:58 AM
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Well even the stickys are clogged with crap, and if its a essay u still read it and responded positively ( i think ) yea cut the clutter, maybe there should be a "bickering" thread!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:02 AM
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lol na, i get watt you're saying guy..
Im jus sayin, I had to read thru all your stuff jus to find out that this was a thread about a guy thats tired of reading thru **** to find what he wanted
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:03 AM
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Add this thread to the useless pile
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:04 AM
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There's definitely a whole lot of junk in these forums. But it's still a goldmine of information if you know where to look. Hell, I learned to tune my LNF from these forums and one other.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:05 AM
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I used to have a guy that was like a librarian on my old focus site. He would always be the first to awnser....he would quote another thread......then lock that one. But you always got your anwser.

I tried to use the search feature for something as simple as spark plug torque and I had to sift through pages of bullshit. Let's get to the point and stop posting. I read a post the other day I went back and read this post

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...ox-mod-163744/

Did we really need 15 pages, honestly? Sticky and locked a long time ago but our moderators aren't doing it!!!
If people get in unintelligent fist-a-cuffs, lock the thread.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaShaKe_88
lol na, i get watt you're saying guy..
Im jus sayin, I had to read thru all your stuff jus to find out that this was a thread about a guy thats tired of reading thru **** to find what he wanted
Then simple thanks!! (lmao for a post about not making technical/informational post) I guess i just became the convicted!

But i hope WE get the point
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:08 AM
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add this thread to the useless pile
case and point!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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Sounds like you are an end game type of guy with very little appreciation of the journey to arrive there. these forums are very much social as they are informative.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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^^wat he said
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:12 AM
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You bought a car that is mostly owned by guys barely out of puberty, what do you expect?
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:14 AM
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Sounds like you are an end game type of guy with very little appreciation of the journey to arrive there. these forums are very much social as they are informative.
NOT TRUE at all, i know theres alot of research, logging, and thoughtful though into many problems, i'm a mechanical engineer and know the hardships of failed attempts, thats different than bashing someones intension's/ideas. I guess u proved my point more, we are here to discuss cars, and argue the facts, no opinions!!
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Darkside
You bought a car that is mostly owned by guys barely out of puberty, what do you expect?
speak for yourself, I am forty something with sever kids in college, responsible and have never hit puberty. When I do its time to die
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:15 AM
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and you just added a useless thread to the technical lnf section, and ur the one complaining about clutter
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ramrod1337
and you just added a useless thread to the technical lnf section, and ur the one complaining about clutter
erod the super moderator is going to come in here and bitch slap you for sure.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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and you just added a useless thread to the technical lnf section, and ur the one complaining about clutter
Direct me where to move it to please, thanks.

I don't wanna fight with u guys at all. The info i have gained i greatly appreciate and i thank all of you. I just hate when i have to read through bs to get to it. yes this is a ps post in a tech section i admit. but its with the purpose of us all to gain in more knowledge. i'm sorry if i pissed ne one off thats not my intentions
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:26 AM
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NOT TRUE at all, i know theres alot of research, logging, and thoughtful though into many problems, i'm a mechanical engineer and know the hardships of failed attempts, thats different than bashing someones intension's/ideas. I guess u proved my point more, we are here to discuss cars, and argue the facts, no opinions!!
stats are stats are stats, still debate able and useless in the end. You have assumed all people in this forum are here to discuss cars. what you call bashing seems more to be a debate about someones tastes or ideas and are probably used to debating ideas in your world in what i would call a civil white collar manner.

I work with engineers all day long and it truly amazes me how brilliantly ignorant they really are. no offense to you of course.
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nahh u didnt do any harm and i agree esp in technical threads theres been numerous times ive had to read through 30 pages to get an answer and when u start a new thread ppl always tell u to search
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:33 AM
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who are you to call for a rally to clean this forum up and you state your intentions were not to **** anyone off.
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by xcross
stats are stats are stats, still debate able and useless in the end. You have assumed all people in this forum are here to discuss cars. what you call bashing seems more to be a debate about someones tastes or ideas and are probably used to debating ideas in your world in what i would call a civil white collar manner.

I work with engineers all day long and it truly amazes me how brilliantly ignorant they really are. no offense to you of course.
Maybe i'm stupid but i thought this was a car forum, ^^^^ not sure what that means, tastes and ideas are one thing, i think theres a appearance section here, cold hard motor facts are not tastes there true to life, especially in the LNF section, we got fussy motors. I"m not sure where u were going with that.

My intentions were not to **** any one off just drop a opinion, its one post, its not gunna take the place down, if ur not into it, don't read nemore!!

Car Ram ROD, haha thanks for the support reading through bs (like this sucks) but i just wanted to throw out i saw a 2009 ss white coupe for sale and wasn't in the position to buy it, love ur car man!!

The reason i posted this in a tech tread is bc this is where i feel like it hurts the tech enthusiast most.....sorry guys
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Originally Posted by chevy2_66
And let the Bashing begin!!!


But this place is loaded, LOADED with IMO and not cold hard facts.



I"m sure i'll get bashed for my post but for you guys in my boat who read this.......I dunno i guess we have to read through the bs and decipher the facts, HOPE THERE RIGHT!!!!!
Describes this thread :

Answers.com - What is an oxymoron
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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Discribes this thread :

Answers.com - What is an oxymoron
absolutely right, but how else do u get the point across?
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Old Feb 26, 2011 | 01:49 AM
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No more bashing. What is your plans or ideas for your car?
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