Awwwwwwww we have all made up, wish i could say that about the rest of the posts that usually turn bad lol

 

The only reason they may have seemed negitive is that Dan was pointing a finger at Injen, and we thought NO ONE should be pointing fingers. As we have stated we are a mutual party, not saying either one is better, nor who came up with the design first.

The "maybe more power" relates back to Dan's theory and accomplishment of his great charge pipes, in which shorter runs and less bends are better, that is all we meant by that. There is no proven fact, it was nothing more than a question.

We are not fighting, all we are asking is for no one to point fingers and stating somone stole my design, which never happened. I think that is very fair business if this can happen.


I would not say "made up", I would say members are on the "same page" as us, in what we have been trying to say from the first post. Which is we are a mutual party and request no one points fingers.

 

Agreed

 

That is the bad part of forums, there is no tone of voice, and member interpret post differently, which is a negitive about the forums. But over all, after everyone explains it, everything makes sence and it makes us all stronger Right?

 

see, that right their proves something to me.

Im not sure how you thought about the part i bolded in your head..but it cam across as sarcastic in my mind...

I, The customer of both clear image and turbo tech, would much rather shop at a vendor that doesnt make sarcastic remarks towards their Competitors products, espeically Competitors products that i shop at.

thats my .02 cents...i have worked in retail enough to understand how it works, plus business school under my belt helps a little to.

i could just be in a sour mood from working all day...regardless, i dont think you guys conducted yourself Appropriately in this thread.

If turbotech had something i want, i would forsure buy it from you guys..

but if its something i want that both you and dan carry..id purchase it from dan first.

 

Very true and the fact that you can see that says a lot for you and your company, lets just keep it that way

 

That was not sarcastic, we are serious, Dan has proven his charge tubes are a great design... We meant to type it just that way. We have never implied to bash either product (well we did, but it was Injen, in the manor of which they wont be offering a lower charge tube)

This is going back to how each member inturprets each post... We try hard not to make it clear, but if you look to deep into post, it will get you in trouble... Most type as they think....

 

okay then i apologize, like you said..it is hard to inturpurate (SP) stuff on forums.

my apologies aaron.

 

Glad we can all start to agree

No problem, I would rather have you ask, rather then leave with a bad taste in your mouth...

 

mmhm. that there is a sign of good business ethic.

 

We try and will always try, if in doubt please ask.

 

I thought the stock lower pipe flowed good, could be mistaken though.
Most people have shown that they want to get both, upper and lower, pipes, whether or not flowed better than stock.

 

I cant believe all this stuff is being said about TTR. If i remeber correctly they are and always will be a very respectful company. Aaron has never did this community wrong and has always been here for us. But back on topic I think that Injen has done very deep R&D when it comes to these and any other product they sold. If GM dont offer these with a stage kit, my next choice will be Injen because i never had an issue with there stuff.

 

 

Exactly.... It would be nice if Injen someday offered the lower pipe also.

 

wow. t his thread really made me decide who my number 1 vendor is lol. if i get a SS/TC I know what setup i'm going to get.

hey AAron, u get stoptech stuff? pm me. I need brakes.

 

I like this piece from injen however I wonder how much it will cost. and TTR Rocks and so does CIA. I will either get the injen or CIA pipes depending on costs and I don't want to change my lower piece its pretty good considering plus I believe in leaving a little bit of flex section in your boost tubing.

 

Cost for the Injen will be around $212, which is the lowest Injen will allow us to sell it for.

We will get it added to the website soon, once they are closer to shipping.

 

Heh, the little argument that went on was interesting......

Maybe I just like shiny things, but that Injen hot pipe looks great.

Doesn't really bug me about the cold pipe, as it seems like a much more reasonably designed piece from GM. If they don't include the tbolts, no biggie... I have a stash of them. Otherwise hit the NAPA and buy some (they're in the local warehouses in vast quantities). They even have the constant load type in stock there typically too.

 

injen's charge piping has been done for a while, CIA just released theirs before.

i have seen this pipe myself at injen, and believe me, the build is exactly like the intake... TOP NOTCH work... Paul, the R&D from injen told me that there are only 2 possible ways to take the piping, the long way (stock) or over the engine which is shorter...

 

Injen makes great stuff. I vote Injen.

 

Sounds to me like everyone was trying way too hard to read between the lines of what Aaron posted, when in fact he was just stating the obvious. I'm pretty sure I read Injen was releasing boost tubing quite a while before CIA announced their's. And that CIA would think Injen "stole" there design is kind of ridicules. They aren't even the same design, just look similar. In fact when I bought this car I was going to have a local fabricator make me boost tubing and we also had a similar design plan. This way before any pictures of the Injen or CIA boost tubing. It's not that hard to figure out that the shortest and smoothest path is usually the best design.

I do applaud CIA for their commitment and their R&D when designing products, but I'm sure Injen did the same and that's why they each have similar designs. I order from both TTR and CIA and have had no problems with either so lets just all get along and stop trying to point fingers when there is no one to blame.

Anyways the Injen charge piping looks good. Maybe I'll buy the Injen upper and the CIA lower just to make you both happy .

 

Does anyone have flow bench numbers for the Injen upper charge pipe? That bend near the turbo looks much sharper than the one CIA offers. I wonder how that affects the flow compared to CIA design? I'm not saying that one would notice much of a difference, it's just something I noticed.

 

I don't think Injen has ever provided flow numbers on the Cobalt line, they do run their products through their pantent "MR Technology" system to get the best air flow dynamics possible for the products they make.

 

Yeah i am sure they do some flow testing to see what angles and sizes make better flow, if they spent a lot of time doing their development then i am sure they did their homework