T CUPP

i was just wondering if someone got the lnf turbo intercooler upgrade would it make your turbo spool slower? reason i am asking is because there are alot of srt4's around my town and thats the case with them they say. if they put a bigger front mount and dont have a bigger turbo it makes them have turbo lag. Just curious dont know to much about the lnf

JacBlackSS/TC

they upgraded fmic's for our cars are more design with a positive cooling effect as well, the main issue with the stock one is that it has plastic end tanks...such a design fail

but as far as upgrades:

zzp, treadstone tr8, hahn, and turbo xs are all comparable in sizing

i ran the tr10 on my car and didn't notice any lag at all you have to remember our turbo has a twin scroll manifold so it helps with the spooling

RyRidesMotox

If you put a HUGE intercooler on it, it will lag. The added volume the turbo has to compress would cause the lag. If you use a good intercooler, sized for your application, you won't notice any lag increase. I have a TR8 from treadstone. It's good at keeping iats near ambient and it is alot more durable because it all metal. I have tunes that are 21psi (91 octane) and 24 psi(e85/91) and it works great.

The increased lag thinking comes form idiots that put intercoolers rated for like 800hp on a car that runs around with 3-400hp... overkill. It's like putting a turbo from a D-max diesel on you car... it will take forever to spool.

T CUPP

okay. thanks for the info. What about charging pipes like the coldside piping does that help with performance?

ford

You should fix your signature...

RyRidesMotox

The hotside pipe has a huge crimp in it. So, because of that, I would replace the upper first, then the stock intercooler then the lower. That's after an intake and a catless downpipe and a tune... Chargepipes and intercooler won't affect a tune a whole lot.

T CUPP

i dont know how to make the picture smaller ahaha.

well if i was to get charging pipes and intercooler i would probably go with the zzp intercooler upgrade. but intake and downpipe are def. first on my list.

RyRidesMotox

Here are 2 options for you

ZZP: - Intercooler Package for LNF #

Treadstone: Cobalt Front Mount Intercooler Kit- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

The treadstone is less expensive, I would definitely recommend checking them out. We all know ZZP's expertise is second to none... Treadstone has very good quality stuff for a very reasonable price.

nobody2u

Remember most aftermarket intercoolers are very heavy, I've heard up to twice as heavy as the stock one. Extra weight over the nose is never a good thing for handling. Just something to think about .

If you are only lightly modding, I personally wouldn't get one- but if you have heavy mods; it's pretty much a must.

hydroturboss

This is very interesting to know

JacBlackSS/TC

any upgrade is better than the stock one just because of the design plastic end tanks are a no no
they burst, they crack its just better to worry about one less thing failing

and as far as the handling aspect, the weight difference is not that dramatic enough to upset the suspension and handling aspects of the car, and a nose heavy car with a lot of power only has issues when entering turns rapidly because of the transfer weight from front to rear, but its not the average owner is tackling road atlanta lol

and too quite honest save your money buy the piping used you will get a better deal and you don't even need the lower ic piping nor do you need aftermarket piping to run any of these fmic

nobody2u

How much power would you need to be putting down exactly to cause the IC to burst?

And I know it isn't going to have a drastic impact on the handling, I'm just saying haha. I'm just saying with light modding (intake downpipe and tune for example) you aren't going to see much of a gain from an aftermarket IC, the stock one can work just fine with that. When you start getting into bigger turbos and meth however, that becomes a different story for sure.

steddy2112

iTrader: (1)

Power has nothing to do with the stock end tanks bursting.

Hot boost will do it. Tons of back to back runs pushing the stock turbo out of it's efficiency range will do it.

The stock intercooler isn't a bad unit at all, hot boost is bad for more things than just plastic end tanks.

Most of the time people don't notice their pressure drops because of the fact the stock turbo/solenoid is still trying to hit a target airflow making adjustments on it's own to get to that airflow ASAP still.

When you add more volume, it's going to take a longer time to fill it, is it going to be noticeable?

Depends on how big you're talking.

umrdyldo

iTrader: (1)

Not just power or boost either. Road bumps, crayz temp changes and just plain bad design make the stock piece fail.

Ryan@zzp

You won't notice any turbo lag from any of these bigger IC's, just better cooling.

Treadstone

iTrader: (2)

When increasing intercooler size and piping size, turbo lag is very minimal and can only been seen by comparing dyno graphs, you'll most likely never notice and "seat of the pants" difference. Granted if you oversize your piping, 3" and go to a huge 4.5 thick intercooler, you probably will notice some lag with a stock turbo set up.