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intercooler, ZZP or MPx?

Old Nov 18, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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ya thats fine...but we dont need stock ones. we need upgraded strong/performance ones. TWM is working on a set.
i think his point is that LNF lines ARE upgraded performance ones for an LSJ.
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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I'm hoping ZZP will knock their intercooler down on black Friday, so I can pick one up. 50% off will be a steal for me.
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by efactor
I'm hoping ZZP will knock their intercooler down on black Friday, so I can pick one up. 50% off will be a steal for me.
I think they will, but remember it's like matt/zooomer said I can't recall which one haha there not gonna have 30 of them 50% off so you kinda have to be the first
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bri2203
LSJ and LNF shifter cables are different. They look the same but I compared them side by side and they are different.
are you saying the lsj ones are better? I'm just waiting for mine to break lol
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
The ZZP IC is being used on cars making the most HP. Based on that and specs, I don't think a better product is available at any price.

When you have a choice for a similar part and choose ZZP, you are supporting the development of your market.

Only ZZP brings you so many custom parts, cutting edge innovations, and the products that you want at affordable pricing. We do this with the support you give us buying the parts we already have. Dual injector setups, upgraded turbo kits, E85 info/conversions, LNF cams, LNF transmissions, shift linkage upgrades and much more are developed solely by you supporting our company. The more sales we have, the more mods we can develop and the faster we can make them.

Thanks again for the support.
I will support ZZP, but this doesn't change the intercoolers flaw. I still vote MPx, but Charge Pipes etc. ZZP for sure.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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I can't wait to recieve my zzp ic, but I ordered the injen cp because I like the path they take.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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i have this intercooler runing 24psi and it works amazing and its only 275 check it out guys
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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i have this intercooler runing 24psi and it works amazing and its only 275 check it out guys
crazy steves ic? ya heard quality was poor....
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by northvibe
crazy steves ic? ya heard quality was poor....
mine wasnt bad pluss i live pretty close to them i watch them fab it up its pretty sweet looking man and looks very perfesional
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by A.J.
mine wasnt bad pluss i live pretty close to them i watch them fab it up its pretty sweet looking man and looks very perfesional
well besides that, the other problem I have is that its huge and part of it is covered by the crash bar. IDK people can buy what they want, but I dont see that being the most efficient IC for a stock turbo :/
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by northvibe
well besides that, the other problem I have is that its huge and part of it is covered by the crash bar. IDK people can buy what they want, but I dont see that being the most efficient IC for a stock turbo :/
ture it is big lol but my temps on my intake stay cold very cold u would be surprized u should test it out if u havent already just to check it out and it was so easy to install everything bolts right up with no problems im runing 24psi threw it now soon to be 30 as soon as i get the factory replacement sensor from my dealer
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 01:18 AM
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ZZP>........... They are actually putting money back into this platform with part's research and development . I doesn't seem like many other company's are doing much .... just sitting back and selling existing product's were as ZZP is trying to advance the LNF platform .
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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ZZP>........... They are actually putting money back into this platform with part's research and development . I doesn't seem like many other company's are doing much .... just sitting back and selling existing product's were as ZZP is trying to advance the LNF platform .
Yeah, so I'll support them, but not with an intercooler. I'd prefer to have my parts work and reliable from damage than just work.

I wouldn't get Hahn because I've heard too many problems with breaking.

I bottomed out my front bumper just yesterday (broke my heart too) and it got me thinking, would that accident cost me my ZZP intercooler? I don't wanna risk the safety of $400 investment because of a simple judgement error.

So I just can't support them with an intercooler.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vahdyx
Yeah, so I'll support them, but not with an intercooler. I'd prefer to have my parts work and reliable from damage than just work.

I wouldn't get Hahn because I've heard too many problems with breaking.

I bottomed out my front bumper just yesterday (broke my heart too) and it got me thinking, would that accident cost me my ZZP intercooler? I don't wanna risk the safety of $400 investment because of a simple judgement error.

So I just can't support them with an intercooler.
i what i dont understand is you're more apt to get the MPx which has solid mounting hardware and doesn't allow for any movement or flex in the intercooler so it's prone to have more stress on the end tank welds and to cracking
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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True, the factory intercooler had rubber vibration dampeners, but its overkill.

We have used intercoolers on our Neon SRT4's, which had from minimum 250 wheel horsepower to as much as 600 horsepower at the wheels and ALL SRT4 intercoolers mount directly to the core support, just like our MPx Cobalt intercooler.

Guess what? We have seen 2 cracked core intercoolers in the last 5 years, both I can guarantee were due to backfiring.

Furthermore, please take a close look at the brackets on our intercoolers. They are over 1/4 inch thick and are welded VERY securely. You could tow your vehicle by attaching a tow strap to an MPx intercooler!
what mpx told me
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
what mpx told me
last i checked srt4's arent cobalts they're there stock to give during engine movement.. and also if ( by any chance you hit anything ) to give during an impact

silicone connectors partially alleviate the issue of engine movement but depending on conditions they're not always enough
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
last i checked srt4's arent cobalts they're there stock to give during engine movement.. and also if ( by any chance you hit anything ) to give during an impact

silicone connectors partially alleviate the issue of engine movement but depending on conditions they're not always enough
all i can really say is theyve been doing this for a while. so im sure they know what theyre doing. if its really that much of an issue you could just isolate the intercooler yourself pretty easy.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
all i can really say is theyve been doing this for a while. so im sure they know what theyre doing. if its really that much of an issue you could just isolate the intercooler yourself pretty easy.
oh i know it's easy to do it yourself.. however if thats the case you can raise the ZZP intercooler up slight i'm sure
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
oh i know it's easy to do it yourself.. however if thats the case you can raise the ZZP intercooler up slight i'm sure
i suppose. the zzp is too big for my liking tho. seems to hang down a little low too. idk when im getting a fmic tho, so ill sit back and see whose breaks more n shyt.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dart_SI
all i can really say is theyve been doing this for a while. so im sure they know what theyre doing. if its really that much of an issue you could just isolate the intercooler yourself pretty easy.
This and everything else dart has been saying
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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both of these IC's should mate up with Hahn charge piping right?
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by meckel
both of these IC's should mate up with Hahn charge piping right?
ya in theory they use the stock pipe locations.
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