Vince set the tune up for 93 which is what we have in VA.

The test car that they used in Seattle was tuned for 91 I do believe because thats all that is available there....I believe this is where the extra power is coming from. The gas is better where I live than where CIA is located.

 

i dont believe CIA is located in Seattle. Trifecta and CIA aren't the same. CIA is just a trifecta dealer, just as TTR is a Hahn Racecraft dealer

 

I should have said Washington state...vince (trifecta) and dan (CIA) are both located in Washington state.

 

Your '93 with the twin dual cam would have had the 284. Nothing like having a trans with no service parts available and a label advising to send back to Getrag for service ($$$). For the random trivia of the day, Chrysler also used the same 284 gearset in the Chrysler TC by Maserati behind the Cosworth/Chrysler 2.2L 16V four (different from the Lotus/Chrysler 16 2.2L TIII). It uses a different case and clutch system than GM, but is even worse for service. You can't even buy clutch replacement kits for those cars any more.

Yes, the Cobalt uses something similar that reduces torque in the first couple gears as well as mid-turn (using the steering wheel angle sensor for the stability control system), but what was mentioned about limiting to ~260hp is more accurately referred to as a torque-based engine management. The powertrain controller (computer) doesn't have a power meter attached to the engine so it can't directly measure how much torque the engine is producing. But by knowing the engine rpm and how much air is going into the engine, using the programmed characteristics of the engine it can calculate how much power it should be producing. If you add modifications to the car that increase air flow through the engine, it will see that increase flow, know something has changed (e.g. you have modified the car), and attempt to bring power (torque) back down by reducing the electronic throttle and/or boost.

 

They have shitty gas in WA, that alone could easily make up for 30 ft/lbs. Plus, he was probably tuned for 93, whereas Trifecta only has 92 available. Very possible.

 

That is why. I did not know he did your tune a little different. Makes sense now.

 

we have 93 everywhere!

 

gearing has no effect on engine output, unless you mean since they used shorter gears they made the power band lower

 

fuel has nothing to do with the torque numbers. that would be a spiked boost setting.

 

Did you dyno in 3rd gear?

 

shorter gears still wouldnt lower the power band. it would just lower the speed needed to reach that power band

 

I didn't mean to say shorter gear, I meant to say lower redline.

 

i still think your dyno sheet is fake...

 

...why would you think that?

 

cause he is a hater!

 

Here is the full sheet if anybody is interested!

 

Hey guys,

I finally dyno'd and well, not so good results. They didn't have the equipment to measure my car the right way or so they said but they still tried. The results were 270whp 312wtrq with the mods I have in my sig. I have pic's and vids if you guys would like that.

 

Wow, why the big spread in numbers? Some people have maybe one thing and a tune and are getting crazy ones and others put some money into it and aren't as high? This confuses me. Either it's a big tune difference, or some of the mods are working against each other or against higher performance somehow.

 

Not bad...I still think Trifecta's tune outdoes psychosteve though.

Its the tune IMO....Trifecta's tune has been putting down the highest numbers as of yet for the LNF. Lets see I paid $250 for the tune, $165 total for the intake, and $50 for the muffler delete and I got 307/361 the track opens next saturday..lets hope for some low low 13's or a high 12...all according to traction though.

 

[QUOTE=L.P.;3621891]Not bad...I still think Trifecta's tune outdoes psychosteve though.



Not bad? I'm pissed man! but I'm wanting to find out though how they setup your dyno. My first run was 266whp with 145wtrq

 

All I know was it was a dyno jet. There was other cars that had previously been dynoed on other dynos with the same mods and they put down about the same maybe even a little bit less than they previously got so the dyno was accurate.

 

these numbers are impossible.... even if you carried that 145tq all the way to redline, you would never see 266whp.
did you mean to say 245tq?

 

Look at my sig, i should be running around 300, 266 was my first pull. Like I said the guys at the dyno didn't have the right setup but tried anyways and 270whp 312trq was the highest i got. They didn't know how to configure the software for my car. the 145trq run was my first and they were trying to read it off my coils. I found out that the LNF is a muti-fire system not single-fire, so the readings I got were not right. Does anyone remember how they had the dyno setup for there run? I know my car makes more cause my buddy with an SRT4 dyno'd at 283whp 305trq and I raced him and pull hard away from him. This sucks

 

its the dyno man. every dyno is different im going to have differnt numbers than someone in another state that has the same mods as me. i can got to 3 different dyno shops here in az that hav dunojets and i will have 3 different numbers. what really matters is how much hp did you pick up? get a good baseline number then get your supporting mods and dyno again see how much you picked up. my car dynoed 230whp stock where as some members on here saw as high as 260whp and with my setup i have now i put down 305whp. thats a 75whp pick up thats pretty good. there are a couple members that have put down over 300whp with just a tune and intake what was their baseline? the dyno they go to might read higher than the one i go to idk. the dyno is somewhere to go to get your tune and everything setup up right so you can go to the track cuz those numbers are what really matter.

 

im just confused how they managed to get those numbers. (145tq) X (6500rpm redline) / (5252 constant) = 179hp
maybe i just dont understand how a dyno works...