wow you NEED new fmic lol heat soak like a **** from the second run

holy crap i didn't know that at max you'll get 40wtq from those 3 mods..... wait........ummm i think you are confused....

 

It's probably best that you can't. The chopped off finger in the turbo story was bad enough.

 

it's because of the turbo size. it's runnin out of efficiency up top. gearing doesn't change power delivery, it shifts it.

 

^^ i enjoy educated posts
you too steddy, since you said the same thing earlier

 

definately...

that's still crazy power lol...

 

The last run they cut off early so therefore it was unaccurate readings....the first run they did fully but it did not record because the guy forgot to hit the record button. So therefore the first run on that sheet is technically my second.

 

Are your numbers on that sheet STD correct or uncorrected?

 

Corrected...sorry for not responding to that I did not see it.

 

OK. Excellent torque number. Highest corrected I have seen for the trifecta tune by quite a bit. The hp will jump up probably another 10 whp if you add a DP. The Dejon intake must help quite a bit. I noticed a difference when I put mine on. I am going back to get redynoed on thurs to see what I make with my boltons and some more tuning.

 

It's all a matter of perspective. Compared to a Holset on a turbo diesel truck, the K04 is a baby turbo. Compared to the stock T25 on my Grand Prix it's massive.

I think it's actually sized fairly well to the application and still has a little headroom for those who like to modify the car. But there's a reason why it's not going to make a ton more power over the lower 300 mark at the wheels and why those who try will see a massive torque spike in the midrange and diminishing returns on the top end as rpms and airflow requirements through the engine increase. You might call it obsessive, but dang right I'd be looking at air flow (or more appropriately air mass) the stock turbo can provide if you're wondering what it can support and what's to be expected out of a stock turbo LNF.

 

Humm...TGP! Such great cars in its day! 205hp out of a 3.1 in 89-90.....Those where fun cars, and extremely rare indeed! Have any pictures?

 

I have my torque management completely removed. I love it. I need stickier tires though. I can still launch hard but it takes some getting used to. Once you relearn how to drive the car afterward it launches harder than stock unless you use too much right foot.

 

There should be one in my gallery here. I have all the pieces to swap in the Getrag 282 5-speed which should make it a fun driver if I can ever get around to working on it.

 

Hey guys, I'm looking at the numbers in this post (and I realize they are the highest TQ numbers thus far), but I'm wondering where the gains are coming from in his mods...

1. Is this a 91 or 93 octane tune?

2. Does the muffler delete do anything power-wise for our system?

3. I may go K&N to remain stealthier at the dealer - I know they can find out about the tune, but do they actually check all the time? Probably not. But then, what do I know? I'm sure I'll lose a few HP though.

4. What does one expect the 91 to 93 octane difference would be in our cars when tuned? I can get 93, but rarely. It would make road trips a huge pain.

Thanks,

Mal.

 

Intake maybe. Probably how the dyno reads though he still has his stock DP on there. He has the same tune but fewer mods as the test car which made 314 whp and 347 wtrq uncorrected and approx 301 whp and 330 wtrq corrected

 

the power is coming from the ECM really. the stock ECM limits power to 260hp. The tune eliminates that, and allows the engine to make the 300+whp that it is capable of from the factory

 

Yes, but his torque numbers is approx 30 ft-lbs higher than the car trifecta developed the tune on and the test car had more mods. Intake may be accounting for some of that extra torque as the test car was using the stock intake, but not 30 ft-lbs.

 

Humm....cannot remember if my 93 GTP had the 282 or the 284 Getrag....I would avoid that tranny if its coming from those cars, was a nice tranny, until you needed something for it!

I've had 3 GP's and really liked that body style vs the change they did in 97 lol. 90 TGP, 93 GTP (3.4 DOHC 5spd) then purchased a 96 GTP (swapped the 3.4 DOHC to a 3800 S/C).....

You simply cannot compare dyno vs dyno...Too many things get involved. The one reason Dynojets are so popular though is because no user input into them unlike Mustang/Superflow, w/o knowing which dyno's both the test car and his car where dyno'd on, its just a waste of time to compare them. Thats why running a stock dyno run is important to see where the mods take you from your stock, and keep w/ the same dyno for your comparsion results with trying to keep relative same conditions as well.

 

Awesome numbers! Where did u go to get dyno'd? I am looking for a place to go and see your in VA.

 

I'm still hoping to hear from the OP if this is a 91 or 93 octane tune. I'd also like to hear from others about their thoughts on the muffler delete. Does it make any more power at all?

 

Awesome, Trifecta is the ****! I bet Vince is blown away with these LNFs.

 

Muffler delete will do nothing but add sound. The most restrictive part of the stock exhaust is the stock cats on the DP followed by the stock resonator. The stock muffler was tested by CIA to flow 560 CFM. The stock turbo flows only 36 lbs per min max which is approx 450 CFM.

 

how is that dejon intake treating you i put one on my car and it wont run right i took it off runs perfect i got the trifecta tune with dejon ic piping and greedy type rs bov had the cai but like i said with the cai my car ran like absolute **** took it off runs perfect

 

what is torque management, is it something similar to what a mazdaspeed 3 uses in it's first 2 gears? and how much was the tune, total price?

 

i dont think he's asking what causes the difference between the test cars power and the posted numbers...i think he's asking why just a tune makes so much power on these cars, which is what i answered