Need new summer tires, which work good for the cobalt?
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I have the Conti DW. Very happy with them. Fairly quiet on the highway. Seem to be wearing well. Ride pretty good. AutoX in the dry was fine. AutoX in the wet they were awesome!
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Everyone has their favorite, but here are some questions you need to ask yourself to decide what is best for you:
1. Since you live in Canada, the first question is are these summer-only tires? You'll either need snow tires or a winter beater car if you want ultra performance summer tires. They are outright dangerous under 40F, let alone in the snow.
2. What is your annual rubber budget? Depending on how many miles you drive, a very sticky tire with a tread wear rating of 200 or less may not last you very long. It becomes a question of how much is traction worth to you.
3. It's important to realize that life span and ride comfort on the one hand, and optimal grip and cornering on the other don't co-exist. An extremely sticky tire that handles like a dream is going to be a very uncomfortable ride and will not last long.
I went from stock to GMS1 to ZZP canned tune myself a few years back, and let me tell you, the ZZP tune is quite impressive. I was spinning tires through 3rd gear when I was still on my POS stock Contis so you're right on needing stickier tires
1. Since you live in Canada, the first question is are these summer-only tires? You'll either need snow tires or a winter beater car if you want ultra performance summer tires. They are outright dangerous under 40F, let alone in the snow.
2. What is your annual rubber budget? Depending on how many miles you drive, a very sticky tire with a tread wear rating of 200 or less may not last you very long. It becomes a question of how much is traction worth to you.
3. It's important to realize that life span and ride comfort on the one hand, and optimal grip and cornering on the other don't co-exist. An extremely sticky tire that handles like a dream is going to be a very uncomfortable ride and will not last long.
I went from stock to GMS1 to ZZP canned tune myself a few years back, and let me tell you, the ZZP tune is quite impressive. I was spinning tires through 3rd gear when I was still on my POS stock Contis so you're right on needing stickier tires
You know damn well you didnt spin tires in 3rd gear on a canned tune....lol, jk
very good advice though btw, thats why i suggested the tires i did, to have the best of both worlds tire in most seasons.
very good advice though btw, thats why i suggested the tires i did, to have the best of both worlds tire in most seasons.
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Why not? I used to spin the stock Contis in 3rd on a Trifecta when they got down to the end of life. You get a couple years worth of heat cycling on them and they get so slick it doesn't take much at all to burn em.
I am really really curious to see how the Conti DW does when they get old. I guess I'll be finding out. The hard way.
I am really really curious to see how the Conti DW does when they get old. I guess I'll be finding out. The hard way.
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Why not? I used to spin the stock Contis in 3rd on a Trifecta when they got down to the end of life. You get a couple years worth of heat cycling on them and they get so slick it doesn't take much at all to burn em.
I am really really curious to see how the Conti DW does when they get old. I guess I'll be finding out. The hard way.
I am really really curious to see how the Conti DW does when they get old. I guess I'll be finding out. The hard way.
When my first set of NT05's lost a lot of grip towards the end of their tread life, I did some research into heat cycling when I replaced them with NT01's last year. Unfortunately, only TireRack offers heat cycling ($15/tire) and they don't carry Nitto, so I decided to find out how I could do it myself. I used the information at the link below. Sure it uses a race track to optimally heat cycle but I'm sure everyone knows a road close to their house where they could do this. My favorite for heat cycling (or bedding brakes!) is a local toll road. It's quiet enough that you can do repeated hard accelerations and hard braking (and even a high speed slalom) without freaking out other drivers or running into the law.
And I have to say, this set of NT01's has remained extremely grippy until the very end of their life (canvas showing).
Here's the link: Race Tire Heat Cycling
Disclaimer: Try this at your own risk. Always drive within your own capabilities, always obey all traffic laws, yadayada
I had Hankook V12s on my hhr and I was not impressed with the grip. Unpredictable near the limit and they still spun like crazy. I thought under-steer was worse than stock Goodyear. Super smooth ride, but grip was not much better than stock all-seasons. You get what you pay for in most cases.
Just ordered RE11s for the Solstice. Decided not to cheap out on rubber this time.
Just ordered RE11s for the Solstice. Decided not to cheap out on rubber this time.
I had Hankook V12s on my hhr and I was not impressed with the grip. Unpredictable near the limit and they still spun like crazy. I thought under-steer was worse than stock Goodyear. Super smooth ride, but grip was not much better than stock all-seasons. You get what you pay for in most cases.
Just ordered RE11s for the Solstice. Decided not to cheap out on rubber this time.
Just ordered RE11s for the Solstice. Decided not to cheap out on rubber this time.
Everyone has their favorite, but here are some questions you need to ask yourself to decide what is best for you:
1. Since you live in Canada, the first question is are these summer-only tires? You'll either need snow tires or a winter beater car if you want ultra performance summer tires. They are outright dangerous under 40F, let alone in the snow.
2. What is your annual rubber budget? Depending on how many miles you drive, a very sticky tire with a tread wear rating of 200 or less may not last you very long. It becomes a question of how much is traction worth to you.
3. It's important to realize that life span and ride comfort on the one hand, and optimal grip and cornering on the other don't co-exist. An extremely sticky tire that handles like a dream is going to be a very uncomfortable ride and will not last long.
I went from stock to GMS1 to ZZP canned tune myself a few years back, and let me tell you, the ZZP tune is quite impressive. I was spinning tires through 3rd gear when I was still on my POS stock Contis so you're right on needing stickier tires
1. Since you live in Canada, the first question is are these summer-only tires? You'll either need snow tires or a winter beater car if you want ultra performance summer tires. They are outright dangerous under 40F, let alone in the snow.
2. What is your annual rubber budget? Depending on how many miles you drive, a very sticky tire with a tread wear rating of 200 or less may not last you very long. It becomes a question of how much is traction worth to you.
3. It's important to realize that life span and ride comfort on the one hand, and optimal grip and cornering on the other don't co-exist. An extremely sticky tire that handles like a dream is going to be a very uncomfortable ride and will not last long.
I went from stock to GMS1 to ZZP canned tune myself a few years back, and let me tell you, the ZZP tune is quite impressive. I was spinning tires through 3rd gear when I was still on my POS stock Contis so you're right on needing stickier tires

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First summer tire on the car since my stock Pirellis.
I also, got an $80 mail in rebate when I purchased them.
So far they seem to be a decent tire. Much better than my old Goodyear Eagle GT's.
Once these wear out though, I'll prob get some BFG G-Force Sport Comp 2's.
For any smartass's.... yes, I know this is the LNF section
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I had Hankook V12s on my hhr and I was not impressed with the grip. Unpredictable near the limit and they still spun like crazy. I thought under-steer was worse than stock Goodyear. Super smooth ride, but grip was not much better than stock all-seasons. You get what you pay for in most cases.
Just ordered RE11s for the Solstice. Decided not to cheap out on rubber this time.
Just ordered RE11s for the Solstice. Decided not to cheap out on rubber this time.
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