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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Well I think Terminator2 got a bad batch or something .

I can't speak from experience cause mine was the test car so of course it fit well.

To OP. Looks good glad someone else got theirs going. Do you have any way to monitor IAT2s. I can't and would like to see temps going into the engine as compared to stock.

The bigger intercooler gets plenty of air flow. I still get a little over 15 PSI at full boost.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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it didnt fit for you?! ^^^
Nope not even close. The OP had to modify his driver's side to to get his to fit. he works at a dealer I have no such luxury. Maybe mine was bad but they should have done something about it instead of just blaming my chargepipes which as you can see fit perfectly.

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Well I think Terminator2 got a bad batch or something .

I can't speak from experience cause mine was the test car so of course it fit well.

To OP. Looks good glad someone else got theirs going. Do you have any way to monitor IAT2s. I can't and would like to see temps going into the engine as compared to stock.

The bigger intercooler gets plenty of air flow. I still get a little over 15 PSI at full boost.
See if it fits with a set of aftermarket chargepipes. The stock rubber hoses which makeup the last 2-3 feet of the pipes can be made to fit almost anything that is even remotely close.

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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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so what are you going to do now?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazdaboi318
so what are you going to do now?
Synapse is sending my intercooler out today. It sucks that I have had my car apart for over three weeks now. . I did not want to to put it back together and take it apart again and then put back together again.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Synapse is sending my intercooler out today. It sucks that I have had my car apart for over three weeks now. . I did not want to to put it back together and take it apart again and then put back together again.
Just drive around with no front bumper. All the honda guys do it

Kidding. I don't ever intend on getting different charge pipes. But on I agree with your statement. Question. What would happen. if you added a Rubber coupler to the end of aftermarket charge pipes? Could you pull it off?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Just drive around with no front bumper. All the honda guys do it

Kidding. I don't ever intend on getting different charge pipes. But on I agree with your statement. Question. What would happen. if you added a Rubber coupler to the end of aftermarket charge pipes? Could you pull it off?
at the No Bumper thing.
I tried that to know avail. I cut off the rubber hoses from the stock chargepipes and all it did was twist and kink the hoses. Stock chargepipes, mainly the hot pipe, stink. They crack and break away from their mounts really easily. The hotpipes is also really restrictive on high flow applications. Tuned other mods etc.

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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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For the paint job free of course. i work for gm dealer as a journeyperson mechanic and get crazy deals on anything!
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 04:00 AM
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deals you can share lol?
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Ok, besides Terminator2 does anybody else have crazy Steve's intercooler? Did anybody else run into issues with aftermarket ic pipes being used with this intercooler? I'm thinking about getting one because it's reasonably priced.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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yo that is a waste of money for such a big front mount like that.... i can understand if theirs a bigger opening for example, like a srt-4 front bumper with the crossbar..but we dont have any opening like that onless u decide 2 cut the bumper 2 get the full response from that big front mount...but for such a little turbo we have, theirs no point of having such a big front mount like that, onless ur going big turbo setup and a built motor
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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yo that is a waste of money for such a big front mount like that.... i can understand if theirs a bigger opening for example, like a srt-4 front bumper with the crossbar..but we dont have any opening like that onless u decide 2 cut the bumper 2 get the full response from that big front mount...but for such a little turbo we have, theirs no point of having such a big front mount like that, onless ur going big turbo setup and a built motor
Buy this front bumper

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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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lol that guy cut the ss bumper up... and it doesnt look right -_-.... is ur car drop on coilovers?
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HB_SS/TC
Buy this front bumper

No crash bar FTL. It could be the difference between life and death in an accident and that bumper looks like crap IMHO.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Why does that look photoshoped to me.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by shiftingloco310
Ok, besides Terminator2 does anybody else have crazy Steve's intercooler? Did anybody else run into issues with aftermarket ic pipes being used with this intercooler? I'm thinking about getting one because it's reasonably priced.
Everone else I have talked to has had issues as well. Mine was the worst fitting though I believe. The OP had to put a 45* coupler on the driver side to get it to work. Mine, as you can see, there was just now way it could fit on there. Dont waste your time and money!!! The core is $70-80 on Ebay and you could it rig it up yourself. Or spend an extra $200 and get Synapses IC. They at least have a real fabricator working for them. BTW. That style core is not very good especially on a car with a small turbo because the inlet and outlet are at the bottom of the IC most of the air is going to flow through the lower 1/3 of the core so the upper 2/3 is basically useless wasted space and cause a big pressure drop especially at low boost.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Everone else I have talked to has had issues as well. Mine was the worst fitting though I believe. The OP had to put a 45* coupler on the driver side to get it to work. Mine, as you can see, there was just now way it could fit on there. Dont waste your time and money!!! The core is $70-80 on Ebay and you could it rig it up yourself. Or spend an extra $200 and get Synapses IC. They at least have a real fabricator working for them. BTW. That style core is not very good especially on a car with a small turbo because the inlet and outlet are at the bottom of the IC most of the air is going to flow through the lower 1/3 of the core so the upper 2/3 is basically useless wasted space and cause a big pressure drop especially at low boost.
I was wondering about it only traveling through the bottom third, but I would assume because of the +15psi pressure in the system that the air would move through the entire core.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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nah thats an acutal car i have another picture of it sitting on the side before it hit the track its real..but i dont like it
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
I was wondering about it only traveling through the bottom third, but I would assume because of the +15psi pressure in the system that the air would move through the entire core.
Actually because of the flow the stock turbo provides at 15 psi it flows only 27-28 lbs/min which is approx 360-370 CFM. That is not enough air mass to evenly fill up that core at 864 cu. in. Even if it does the distribution of air is not going to be even throughout the core even at high boost and high flow applications most of the air is going to flow through the lower portion of the IC. There is a reason that most IC have triangualar end tanks that help to funnel the air stream so it is as evenly distributed throughout the core as possible.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Actually because of the flow the stock turbo provides at 15 psi it flows only 27-28 lbs/min which is approx 360-370 CFM. That is not enough air mass to evenly fill up that core at 864 cu. in. Even if it does the distribution of air is not going to be even throughout the core even at high boost and high flow applications most of the air is going to flow through the lower portion of the IC. There is a reson that most IC have triangualar end tanks that help to funnel the air stream so it is as evenly distributed throughout the core as possible.
Sorry for my ignorance, but is the inside of the intercooler completely open?

Cause if it's completely open then the air will disperse through the entire open space. If it's an open space the pressure of the air will cause it to disperse through the entire core to relieve pressure. I'm talking Physics, straight physics. How on Earth does it not?

Air always travels from areas of high pressure to lower pressure. The entire inside of the intercooler is at a lower pressure than the incoming air so the 15-25PSI would fill the entire void.
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
Sorry for my ignorance, but is the inside of the intercooler completely open?

Cause if it's completely open then the air will disperse through the entire open space. If it's an open space the pressure of the air will cause it to disperse through the entire core to relieve pressure. I'm talking Physics, straight physics. How on Earth does it not?

Air always travels from areas of high pressure to lower pressure. The entire inside of the intercooler is at a lower pressure than the incoming air so the 15-25PSI would fill the entire void.
No, it is not completely open. The Bars that run across the IC face are where the air flows through the air has to travel upward through the end tank to reach the uppers bars where it flows through. As you probably understand air being a fluid will take the path of least resistance through the system which in this case is the lower 1/3 of the core. It would be less detrimental at higher than stock flow rates and pressures but it is stil not the greatest design. Check out page 10 of this link. http://www.dvdtfab.com/intercoolertestlab.pdf The IC design on the far left of the screen is most like the genuine Saab IC and as it states it is really not that great especially if the inlet and outlet are both on the bottom. Read this link too. http://www.are.com.au/feat/techtalk/intecoolersMR.htm

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