So you have both and made the measurements you asked of others?

 

I have never had any hop I have all 3 ZZP mounts without the spacer

 

Ever ran drag radials?

 

post because for some reason 63 Nova's posts wont show up until I do.

Edit: **** it didn't work

Edit2: it does not


IB can we fix this issue it's starting to get extremely annoying

 

I dont really notice any vibrations at all. I dont have wheel hop at all. Maybe you guys are speaking of the first zzp spacer. There is a gen2 and a gen3 now. Gen3 is a bigger mount and is 3/8, gen2 is 1/4.

 

No just Nt01s maybe this year

Yes everytime Nova posts it shows up he was the last to post but his posts dont show

 

I have gen2 zzp rear mount. I've spoke to someone that has powells. From what I can tell theyre almost the same thing.

 

Does this one show up? I am still randomly using the old app.
Btw the ZZP mounts I ran didn't have spacers that I remember, like powells do and I had pretty bad wheel hop. I'm glad they have changed that. And the vibration was noticeably more than stock or powells. And when I installed them I did loosen things to try make sure things were able to settle and rotate.

 

Yes this one did. The gen3 has the spacer built in you can buy the spacer for the older ZZP versions. I am not one to ever complain about vibrations and I am told my car is now a racecar so that doesn't matter.

 

The new zzp mounts are also solid rubber, not polyurethan bushings. So you couldve had the polyurethan which is stiffer and causes vibrations.

 

Mine are old and are rubber. I've had them on for at least 50miles with no cracks or tears

 

I dont think they've ever made poly bushings for the cobalt

 

they made mention of using poly bushings a long while ago.

 

So bump for proof of the powell mounts being better and how the angle of the transmission has to do with suspension geometry.

 

I really doubt anyone other than Powell will have that info. Everyone goes by feel

 

no need to explain to you since you already believe they're the same and I can save money by buying zzps.

 

Burn ^

 

Okay, zzp mount same size as stock. Same amount of spacing under the zzp mount as powell. Explain to me how the axles have to do with suspsension geometry, now that I've asked this for second time because it does not. Hes not burning anyone. He hasnt proved any of the info hes claiming and hes getting defensive with sarcastic comments. Ecaulk is wrong. Done.

 

You said you didn't compare them side to side.

Suspension geometry does come into play with axles on fwd, you know since the axle is connected to the knuckle and travels up and down with the axle inside of it...ever watch a car launch?

 

You should really learn more. Im in school and I've learned all about suspension geometry. Youre wrong. Do some research.

 

Seriously?

Congrats on being in school

You tell me to do research, yet you provide no proof of your statements you've claimed to learn...

 

tell me where camber, caster, toe, steering axis inclination, scrub radius all have to do with axles.

 

Maybe if it were a live axle rear end without independent suspension would you slightly have a chance at being right as that suspension effects the other side but its not.

 

 

You're not understanding what I'm talking about and I have a feeling I'll never be able to explain it to your level of acceptance so I'm leaving it at this:

Go back to school and learn about physics, specifically rotating objects in multiple planes.

Also I'm not going to waste time comparing a set of zzps to Powells, Powell generated them first while working with GM. Anything after that is at best a damn copy, yea they might look different but the important points are copied.