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OTTP Intercooler Pipes Kit

Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Whoa, hang on there man. Look who talking looking for cheaper to product your stuff ? Everybody had dumping their money on metal charge pipes and has proven the fact it has raise IAT. Going back from metal to stock plastic charge pipe is the best thing to do. I am sure higher horsepower guys are trying to find the answer why their metal charge pipe raise IAT. You or the company could do better than metal charge pipes. Cause the only thing is working is ZZP intercooler on my car. You need to becareful with your reputations here. Cause you just posted up which you want it to be made China or America ? That tells me you at looking for cheaper place to make your product then sell your products higher price. Then bad things happen with your product then whoever or I need to go to you. Cause I have your products here and I am just stating the truth about your charge pipes. If you can't or don't like the truth then make it better. Simple as that like you did with supercharged front mount heat exchanger.
I am not looking to have more products made in china. Go read the thread again.... That's not the point of that thread at all. That ZZP intercooler is made in China btw.

As far as stating the truth.... So far you have voiced opinions about my product being bad specifically and have went as far to say that all metal charge pipes are a bad design. That's fine that you feel that way but that's not the truth, that's your truth. Truth is based in facts, where is the data?

Before you ask for me to get you data. I won't. Metal charge pipes are used on so many vehicles without problems. They work just fine and as intended.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Only mild steel is not reliable as aluminum and mild steel are heavy and rust easily. Yes, it's the truth that metal is bad design to use as charge pipes. Why have I had been seen so many has complain IAT rise too high ? It's the truth, even John Powell had made his point. That's fine, I don't need to ask your data cause I don't need it. I got my own data from my best tuner here and only Ohio. Why you even brought up about ZZP ? ZZP has not made a thread saying made in China or America. You did.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Dude you are blowing thing out of proportion. Josh is being logical with his responses. And you're still in a attack mode
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by YelCal7
Only mild steel is not reliable as aluminum and mild steel are heavy and rust easily. Yes, it's the truth that metal is bad design to use as charge pipes. Why have I had been seen so many has complain IAT rise too high ? It's the truth, even John Powell had made his point. That's fine, I don't need to ask your data cause I don't need it. I got my own data from my best tuner here and only Ohio. Why you even brought up about ZZP ? ZZP has not made a thread saying made in China or America. You did.
You are all over the place here so I will come back to my point. If you plan on keeping your car completely stock then stock charge pipes are best. If you plan to turn up the boost and/or want to run a bov aftermarket pipes are best. It's that simple.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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I dont see why its a big deal if he made that.

You still have not proven that metal charge pipes are the reason for higher IAT2s

I have STOCK cold side and my IAT2s will hit 110 to 130 when my car is off and sitting in the hot sun.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 04:13 PM
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Ok, I will turn off my attack mode. LOL! I apologize for that.

Last edited by YelCal7; Jun 17, 2014 at 04:19 PM.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ChevyRockstar
Dude you are blowing thing out of proportion. Josh is being logical with his responses. And you're still in a attack mode
This. getting the popcorn! lol
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 04:38 PM
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No, You're not. Put that popcorn away! LOL! Not gonna happen! Josh, I do understand what you're saying. I had seen some guys here are on GM stage 1 kit with stock charge pipe and still hold up fine. I am guessing it's a driver mods. LOL! Well, I am sure when the weather is cold then it could pop for sure if pushing high load of boost.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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So I should probably take my ZZP IC off and put the stock plastic IC back on since the metal is raising my IAT's right? Who would've thought reverse modding makes so much more power....
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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Try that out and you'll see the difference.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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That sounds so worth it bro.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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I'm confused ?? Where did this thread go off the rails ? I just think its time to chill. I'm going for a beer and some wings. Lol ...

Oh yeah... one last thing !! Reverse modding ftw !!! Lol ... because race car !! J/k. ;-)
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:39 PM
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Because racecar is always the answer.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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On another note. My car. In particular feels faster because it isnownon the stock cp. But that could be due to the split all the way trough the crappy injen silicone coupler they gave me. Causing a small boost leak. I think the rip was caused by my cp always blowing off in the summer time ripping it. Term pointed that out in my thread about it almost a year ago. I could be wrong. But maybe that's why my car feels stronger on my stick cp. ;-). I didn't even know it was ripped until I was looking at it today cleaning my garage up.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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Gotta keep an eye on those fuel trims.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by footballplaya3k
Gotta keep an eye on those fuel trims.
I don't on a daily basis normally. But I happened to look at my ltft last week. It was -9.2. I didn't really think to much of it because I have heard if cars with bigger leaks around -12 to -15. I am now as of today around -6.2. So a bit better. It was -5.5 for a bit.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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bet if you didnt see the 3 degree warmer iat the car wouldnt be slower.


funny how you go from circle jerking ottp to freaking out at the rep/owner. lol


this reminds be of the guy that said a muffler delete made his car faster........
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